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Old July 21st, 2007 (8:48 AM).
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You know where I stand. Unless there is a suitable replacement, keep him.

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Old July 21st, 2007 (8:59 AM).
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Keep Claydol in then. I think we have something going here. :)
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Old July 21st, 2007 (9:18 AM).
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hmm... thats...intresting. thx, i think? im not sure why you would say somthing like that, but ok.

Im pretty sure that it is going to be Claydol stay, so we are going to move on to the next subject. Someone brought up that they wanted to put Rypherior in. I guessing they want to get rid of Dusknoir for it. Does anyone think this is worth voting over, or do we want to stick with Dusknoir?
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Old July 21st, 2007 (9:20 AM).
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Let me see what Rhyperior can do before I cast a vote.

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Old July 21st, 2007 (9:25 AM).
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I have no say in this. I am no expert on Rapid Spinners. BTW Claydols HP is HUGE!
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Rhyperior has much better HP and Attack than Dusknoir and Defense is about equal, only problem is it's speed and special defence leaves it open for a OHKO from Surf
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Old July 22nd, 2007 (5:02 AM).
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I guess it would be a good choice if we didnt send him against a pokemon that will know a water move. It is really powerful. He could be a great wall and physical wall.
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Old July 22nd, 2007 (7:57 AM).
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He doesn't have shabby sp.def either.
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Old July 22nd, 2007 (10:34 PM).
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I do competitive battles now(pm me if you want to go at it with me) and I have found garchomp and espeon to be my two gretes help of all time(oh and don't forget about yanmega). My yanmega put a skarmory to sleep and took it out with bug buzz. I think we should include on of those in there somewhere. Reason I inclued them all in there is because it looks like you guys are speculating sweepers. I am also wondering if electivire is still on the team. Sorry I've been gone so long it's just I started competitive battling.
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Old July 23rd, 2007 (3:16 AM).
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sry ooka 100, Electivire is no more. But we do have Garchomp now. Here is the pokemon team so far.

Claydol
Milotic
Dusknoir
Metagross
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Garchomp

We are trying to figure out if we should replace Dusknoir with Rypherior. I think it would be a very wise choice. sims796, im not sure why you said he dosent have shabby Sp.Def. Its base is 55, which is pretty bad. That is the only thing i dont like about Rypherior as a Tank. Is it just me or do we have very little Sp.Sweeping on this team? We are going to start a vote on Rypherior now:

1) Use Rypherior and get rid of Dusknoir

2) Keep Dusknoir

I am actually going to vote to get rid of Dusknoir. He is one of my favorite pokemon, and i use him on my normal team, but i think this team is better suited for a Rypherior.
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Old July 23rd, 2007 (3:23 AM). Edited July 23rd, 2007 by Angelic Diablo.
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very little? We got Togekiss and Milotic (sort of)

And I know it's not an option, but I'd like to get rid of Dusknoir, but not for Rhyperior (for the reasons I mentioned earlier)

Rhyperior works well on Trick Room teams, which means he doesn't work too well on one without Trick Room

EDIT: Maybe if we could get Sandstorm on this team, then Rhyperior could work. Plus Garchomp gets a hand with the Evasion boost, Metagross and Claydol are immune, so that just leaves Milotic and Togekiss to worry about.
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Old July 23rd, 2007 (6:40 AM).
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I meant Claydol has high sp.def. We were talking about him at the time.
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Old July 23rd, 2007 (7:03 AM).
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Oh, sry sims796. So do you think that Rypherior is a good idea?
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Old July 23rd, 2007 (7:09 AM).
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Rhyperior sounds nice. Solid choice there.
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Old July 23rd, 2007 (7:36 AM).
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Hmm I tried out Dusknoir in competitive battling and he isnt so great. Rhypherior is a good choice but I want to scout a bit for other choices.
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Old July 23rd, 2007 (12:24 PM).
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Well here is what I think we should have in there(the ultimate garchomp and salamence counter)

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This is mainly just to stealth rock and avalanch for garchomp and salamence and if you have curse it is for mainly attack but it helps for defense also. I like this one because an earthquake or dragon claw from slamence or garchomp does around 50 dmage if I calculated right and that hardly dents swamperts health.
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Old July 24th, 2007 (4:57 AM).
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ok ooka 100, we will get to that, but right now we need to focus on what we will do with Dusknoir. If we do replace him, it will have to be with another wall. I really have not been getting any feedback on this topic, so please vote. Here are your choices again

Keep Dusknoir

Get Rypherior

Get rid of Dusknoir for something else other than Rypherior
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Get Rhyperior, though I feel uneasy without a Ghost type.
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Old July 24th, 2007 (7:26 AM).
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I know, I was saying replace him for swampert. That swampert is a wall.
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I vote for get rid of Dusknoir for something else other than Rypherior but if we can't keep him in.
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Old July 24th, 2007 (3:45 PM).
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I also suggest bronzong with hypnosis and stealth rock as a wall.
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Rhyperior is OK, though I suggest a wall in both stats.

These are legendaries, but still suggestions: Regis and Cresselia.

Shuckle, Bronzong, and Bastiodon if you are going defense too.

I'd say no Rhyperior.

Either stick with one of these choices or stick with Dusk, IMO
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Old July 24th, 2007 (3:54 PM).
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I say yes to bronzong, I guess bastiodon would be okay, and there is way too low health on shuck so I say no for that one.
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If you're lucky enough to grab an Attract of Shuckle, then use Power Trick... then WOW!!! Rest is standard on it, so it can recover well.
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I just don't like Shuckle or Bastiodon.. or much of anything with low HP. Bronzong or Rhyperior both sound good, and I like having a steel type, and two is even better, despite the added weakness, because of Metagross.
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