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Old September 29th, 2007 (5:21 AM). Edited September 29th, 2007 by Dark Azelf.
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if we need a mixed, I suggest Fire Blast over Fire Punch on Dnite... sure it's accuracy is low but Dnite does have 100 base Sp Attack to back it up when it does hit

Jolteon is our lead at the moment, so if we are switching him out, we need another lead, Aerodactyl could work
For that you'd maybe need lonely/Hasty/Naughty/Naive Nature.


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I'd personally like to see Magmortar. Electivire is the better choice however

Electivire @ Expert Belt/Life Orb
Trait: Motor Drive
EV: 176 Speed / 90 Sp.att / 252 Att.
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Cross Chop
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Earthquake

That's just off the top of my head, I'll check a damage calc with that setup later.
Changed that a bit for you.



Im not sure as we need this as we already have Jolt to absorb electric attacks. Although if we remove Jolt then it could be an option.
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Old September 29th, 2007 (2:12 PM).
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If we ARE removing Jolteon, Genagr makes a great lead too. And Jolteon was a Baton passer. And Itachi, I use 3 first Gen Pokemon. And if we need a mixed, my vote goes to Lucario.
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Old September 29th, 2007 (2:13 PM).
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Electivire does NOT need both Cross Chop and Earthquake
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I'm watching that movie. I'm glad they made Lucario useable.
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Old September 29th, 2007 (2:17 PM).
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And if we need a mixed, my vote goes to Lucario.
As does mine. Great stats, good type coverage, invulnerable to Sandstorm, and a rather defensive type set makes him a perfect Mixed choice.

Oh, and I'm Tivoing the movie, gonna watch it tonight with some popcorn ... :)
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Heis rather awesome in the movie. Espcecially Aura Sphere. And Genagr Dragonite Donphan Bronzong Blissey Lucario sounds good too me.
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I'm watching that movie. I'm glad they made Lucario useable.
It's over in three minutes, sadly. I was watching it too.
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Nice new name, mister 2007.

I realized we have a major Earthquake resistance. Thats great.
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Nice new name, mister 2007.
I realized we have a major Earthquake resistance. Thats great.
Anti noticed too, which is great. I vote Lucario, mainly cause' of the re-runs i've seen on Saturdays floating around.
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How are you guys all watching it at the same time?! My vote goes to Infernape mwahahhaha
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WHAT!? ACCEPT THE AURA-I mean Lucario!
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WHAT!? ACCEPT THE AURA-I mean Lucario!
Lol. FORGIVE ME, MY MASTER.
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Man, I think a tear escaped my eye there at the end. Glad I decided to watch it...

Anyways, Infernape does have his upside. If he's mixed, he can take out Skarmory AND Blissey. I'm pretty sure Aura Sphere is a 2HKO on Skarm, while a STABed Flamethrower from 'Nape would surely be a OHKO...

However, Lucario has superior type coverage IMO...
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Old September 29th, 2007 (4:09 PM).
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Man, I think a tear escaped my eye there at the end. Glad I decided to watch it...

Anyways, Infernape does have his upside. If he's mixed, he can take out Skarmory AND Blissey. I'm pretty sure Aura Sphere is a 2HKO on Skarm, while a STABed Flamethrower from 'Nape would surely be a OHKO...

However, Lucario has superior type coverage IMO...
Yeah...if we're gonna use a fire.fighting type, let's go for cool points and use blaziken! But yeah, I choose lucario.
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Yeah...if we're gonna use a fire.fighting type, let's go for cool points and use blaziken! But yeah, I choose lucario.
I'd agree on the cool points, but if we did go for one of the fire types, 'Nape not only has the speed, but the Close Combat. If you think Blaziken can go around as a little slower, and only packing Sky Uppercut, you could have a case on your hands.
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Grant! Because of you, I need Blaziken insurance! AAAAARRRRGGGHH!
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Old September 29th, 2007 (4:56 PM).
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Grant! Because of you, I need Blaziken insurance! AAAAARRRRGGGHH!
This made me lol.

Anyways, after looking at the stats again, I realize that, though Blaziken is faaaar weaker in speed, both of his Offenses are much higher. However, 'Nape has a slight (very slight) upperhand in the defense category.

However, this is all meaningless, because Lucario still owns.
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This made me lol.

Anyways, after looking at the stats again, I realize that, though Blaziken is faaaar weaker in speed, both of his Offenses are much higher. However, 'Nape has a slight (very slight) upperhand in the defense category.

However, this is all meaningless, because Lucario still owns.
Yeah, lucario it is then?
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We should wait for Name to put his two cents. He chooses Nape, and should argue why.
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Old September 29th, 2007 (5:29 PM). Edited September 29th, 2007 by Faceless*.
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Electivire
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Bronzong
Dragonite
Gengar

Current team correct?
Getting rid of DDnite?

Infernape advantages : Ultimate SkarmBliss slayer, Good Scarfer (Stabbed Fire Blast/Close Combat is incredible), can access to Grass Knot to eliminate Swampert/Feraligatr or others, Thunderpunching advantage for Gyarados, and free sweeping with Focus Sash

Lucario : Needs to be Choice Banded or Scarfed, otherwise the it's own speed will be it's own death, Stabs only Close Combat/Aura Sphere (assuming you're not putting Bullet Punch/Flash Cannon), average Type coverage(horrible coverage compared to Infernape's free sweeping capabilities), almost always used as a Finisher rather than a sweeper, and being EASILY walled by a bulky Grass type ^^
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Wait, Electrivire? When was THAT chosen? He's great as a mixed sweeper, right?
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Old September 29th, 2007 (6:40 PM).
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Meh. we should keep dragonite, it is incredible. Electivire makes a fine skarmbliss killer too...I'm okay with anything really, I just hate infernape for some reason.
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I just hate infernape for some reason.
Monkey hater. :P

I still think 'Nape and Blaziken are both too fragile, which is why I view Lucario as superior. I have no experience with 'Vire, so I really can't say in that department.
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Monkey hater. :P

I still think 'Nape and Blaziken are both too fragile, which is why I view Lucario as superior. I have no experience with 'Vire, so I really can't say in that department.
Monkeys are harcore. Primeape FTW! Infernape is an evil little...

And lucario sure is durable against all those pokemon with EQ out there:)
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And lucario sure is durable against all those pokemon with EQ out there:)
And Electivirve, Infernape, and Blaziken are? :)

Oh, and my Lucario has survived unSTABed EQs from plenty of Pokes. STABed is a different story, though...
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