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Old September 30th, 2007 (7:22 PM).
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I cant find any huge weaks to any Pokemon either, besides Infernape XD. Only things that resist his are Dragonite and Gengar, so thats 4 Pokemon that are effected.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (7:22 PM).
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Dang Im stupid. Totally didn't think of that. Then yes your set is good. And Donphan Lucario Steelix Blissey Dragonite Gengar. That seems like the best of the best too me.
Well I don't. I don't think we need both Steelix AND Donphan.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (7:23 PM).
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I guess I see your point...but they both do different things for the team...you're probably right though sims...
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Old September 30th, 2007 (7:25 PM).
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I would rather replace Steelix with Bronzong. or even Skarmory, despite my retched despise for it.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (7:26 PM).
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Why did we lose Brozong from the start?
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Old September 30th, 2007 (7:27 PM).
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Anyone notice we lack a bulky water?
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Old September 30th, 2007 (7:29 PM).
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Anyone notice we lack a bulky water?
Is that REALLY needed? I really don't know.

We also lack a BPer, Annoyer, and a Cleric, but we must make due without those.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (7:34 PM).
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our BPer WAS Jolteon, but he got switched in for Lucario. And if we NEED a BPer, move Lucarioin for probablky Ninjask. Despite my love for Jolteon.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (7:35 PM).
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We don't need it all too bad.
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Wait, doesn't blissey have aromatherapy? It should, so we can abuse rest...XD But I like to have bulky waters on my teams, they always help.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (7:55 PM).
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She does indeed I believe. And I like the team currently, plus annoyers fail wiht online play.
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I never said we need one, we just need to make due without is. Like hazers.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (8:08 PM).
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Don't we a a PHazer or hazer? Otherwise, DDtar runs us over with glee...
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Old September 30th, 2007 (10:37 PM).
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Donphan - Ice Punch
Lucario - Earthquake
Steelix - Earthquake
Blissey - Cross Chop
Dragonite -Ice Punch
Gengar - Thunderpunch/bolt

Guess who can take out this team... ELECTIVIRE!!

Especially if Gengar hits him with a Thunderbolt, or Blissey with a Thunderwave

Bronzong was good, because he laughs at Electivire, EQ and Ice Punch do next to nothing (EQ actually does nothing), Thunderpunch and Cross Chop only do normal damage, and then Bronzong hits with a Gyro Ball/Earthquake and you have a dead Electivire
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Old September 30th, 2007 (10:44 PM).
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Actually, Steelix is 3HKOed by cross chop and EQ on vire...but yeah, Vire weak is EVIL.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (10:46 PM).
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Ever seen a CBVire running off Motor Drive :P now that is a scary sight

But anyway, I wasnt stating that Electivire could 6-0 this team, I was just saying that we do have a huge weakness to it
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Old September 30th, 2007 (10:49 PM).
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CBvire? Haven't seen many of those, but sure does sound scary! That's when you send in gengar when it's locked in on EQ on laugh at its face.
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Old October 1st, 2007 (2:57 PM).
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Dugtrio! That's our counter if we don't already have it. Choice Scarfed, it can outran before it gets it's Ice Punch in. (Electrivire).
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Donphan - Ice Punch
Lucario - Earthquake
Steelix - Earthquake
Blissey - Cross Chop
Dragonite -Ice Punch
Gengar - Thunderpunch/bolt

Guess who can take out this team... ELECTIVIRE!!

Especially if Gengar hits him with a Thunderbolt, or Blissey with a Thunderwave

Bronzong was good, because he laughs at Electivire, EQ and Ice Punch do next to nothing (EQ actually does nothing), Thunderpunch and Cross Chop only do normal damage, and then Bronzong hits with a Gyro Ball/Earthquake and you have a dead Electivire
I thought it was Nape with Focus Sash :\ Focus Sash Nape P*NS Vire
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Old October 1st, 2007 (4:23 PM).
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I think bronzong for Steelix sounds like a good idea. And Electivire is a problem, so Bronzing does take care of him. but I dont think we need any extras like BPer, Annoyer, Hazer.
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You guys went a bit spammy. : /

I am going ot have to object to alot of things.

Steelix < Bronzong

Why? Awesome Defense but crappy HP, Attack and Speed along with a limited movepool is why Steelix isnt OU.

Bronzong on the other hand is only weak to one type and has a load of resisrance due to it's typing. Ohh did I mention Steelix has awful typing?

I am going to have to stamp out the mixed sweeper idea too. They are awesome but they will never excel since they dont specialize in one role. Basically a team built on speed or Jask support would send this down like a house of cards. Why? We have to invest EVs into Attack, Sp. Attack and Speed therefore spliting it up. So far only Gengar has gained my approval at last.

Not to mention we do not have a viable lead anymore. Gengar is nice but Weavile is so common these days. I am saying Jolteon stays. Amazing speed along with an awesome base special. It isn't known as the fast Sub Passer for nothing. Not to mention it uses HP Ice quite well. It has counters to fight back other common leads and Baton Pass as a means to escape.

So far I have only accepted these Pokemon...

Donphan - Physical Wall
Bronzong - Primary Wall
Blissey - Sponge
Jolteon - Lead/Backup Special Sweeper
Gengar - Special Sweeper
Dragonite? - Physical Sweeper

As for movesets we can somewhat agree to this...

Donphan
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard
-Rapid Spin
-Knock Off

Blissey
-Softboiled
-Aromatherapy
-Ice Beam
-Seismic Toss/Thunderbolt/Charge Beam/Calm Mind/Thunder Wave/Sing

Bronzong
-Explosion
-Gyro Ball
-Earthquake/Reflect/Light Screen/Rest
-Hypnosis

Jolteon
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice
-Baton Pass
-Substitute

Well those are kind of set in stone. ^_^

Gengar is a bit tricky as we can go so many ways. Dragonite I have no exp on it. But as you can see each one of the sets I listed has one support move. Dont underestimate Knock Off guys. ;)
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I am going ot have to object to alot of things.

Steelix < Bronzong

Why? Awesome Defense but crappy HP, Attack and Speed along with a limited movepool is why Steelix isnt OU.

Bronzong on the other hand is only weak to one type and has a load of resisrance due to it's typing. Ohh did I mention Steelix has awful typing?

I am going to have to stamp out the mixed sweeper idea too. They are awesome but they will never excel since they dont specialize in one role. Basically a team built on speed or Jask support would send this down like a house of cards. Why? We have to invest EVs into Attack, Sp. Attack and Speed therefore spliting it up. So far only Gengar has gained my approval at last.

Not to mention we do not have a viable lead anymore. Gengar is nice but Weavile is so common these days. I am saying Jolteon stays. Amazing speed along with an awesome base special. It isn't known as the fast Sub Passer for nothing. Not to mention it uses HP Ice quite well. It has counters to fight back other common leads and Baton Pass as a means to escape.

So far I have only accepted these Pokemon...

Donphan - Physical Wall
Bronzong - Primary Wall
Blissey - Sponge
Jolteon - Lead/Backup Special Sweeper
Gengar - Special Sweeper
Dragonite? - Physical Sweeper

As for movesets we can somewhat agree to this...

Donphan
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard
-Rapid Spin
-Knock Off

Blissey
-Softboiled
-Aromatherapy
-Ice Beam
-Seismic Toss/Thunderbolt/Charge Beam/Calm Mind/Thunder Wave/Sing

Bronzong
-Explosion
-Gyro Ball
-Earthquake/Reflect/Light Screen/Rest
-Hypnosis

Jolteon
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice
-Baton Pass
-Substitute

Well those are kind of set in stone. ^_^

Gengar is a bit tricky as we can go so many ways. Dragonite I have no exp on it. But as you can see each one of the sets I listed has one support move. Dont underestimate Knock Off guys. ;)

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Also on Donphan , infact in regards to everything, wouldn't Stealth Rock somewhat be needed anywhere ?
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