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Old October 8th, 2007 (10:56 AM).
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Ew, that's a horrid thing to do to Weavile. Metal Claw doesn't have the power, and Poison Jab is like one of the worst offensive types there is. Standard Weavile has Brick Break, Aerial Ace or Swords Dance among it's moves (usually two out of those three). You're right with Night Slash and Ice Punch though. Focus Sash is a necessary item, and there's a few EVs you can play with there.
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Ok yeah not the best set ever.

Weavile-Life Orb/Choice Band
252 Attack, 252 Speed, HP
Night Slash
Ice Punch
Brick Break
Sweords Dance

That set can pretty much kill everything, and NEVER EVER use a move like Fury Swipes, WAY to risky.
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Fire Fang and Thunder Fang.
Fire Blast won't help a base 60 Sp.Atk will it?
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Old October 8th, 2007 (10:59 AM).
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I guess Fire Blast isn't strong enough to scare Skarm away (although it may make him think twice). Fire Fang would cool though, at least it gets CB boost.
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Old October 8th, 2007 (11:02 AM).
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I think that Aerodactyl just adds to our list on ice weak Pokemon. That would add uo to Tangrowth Donphan Dragonite and THEN Aerodactyl, we already are weak to Weavile, so we eed either Weavile against Weavile, or nape to counter Weavile.
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NONONO. I'm gonna be blunt, forgive me:

Don't give advice until you get better at strategizing.


The standard Weavile is:

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Night Slash
Pursuit
Ice Punch
Swords Dance

Poison is a lousy attack type, Metal Claw is a bad move altogether, Fury Swipes is just Awful.

Before you post here, you must grasp the strategy part of the game.

And we know about Weavile, we know it is the fastest, and we KNOW it is a born sweeper. We arent rookies.

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Pursuit/Brick break Sims, Pursuit still a good move, but Brick Break is for Blissey.
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Old October 8th, 2007 (11:04 AM). Edited October 8th, 2007 by khatzeye.
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Ok yeah not the best set ever.

Weavile-Life Orb/Choice Band
252 Attack, 252 Speed, HP
Night Slash
Ice Punch
Brick Break
Sweords Dance

That set can pretty much kill everything, and NEVER EVER use a move like Fury Swipes, WAY to risky.
lol thank i tried i was thinkin abt makin it a sp. atk but there arent many opt for moves

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NONONO. I'm gonna be blunt, forgive me:

Don't give advice until you get better at strategizing.


The standard Weavile is:

[email protected] Band/Life Orb/Focus Sash
Natue:Adamant, I think
Night Slash
Pursuit
Ice Punch
Swords Dance

Poison is a lousy attack type, Metal Claw is a bad move altogether, Fury Swipes is just Awful.

Before you post here, you must grasp the strategy part of the game.

And we know about Weavile, we know it is the fastest, and we KNOW it is a born sweeper. We arent rookies.

No offense, of course.
lol wow... it is just a game im trying to understand the whole strategy thing no need to be harsh about it but fine ill just mind my business and not come back on this site no more sorry for interfering with yalls teams just tryna join in sorry bye
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Pursuit/Brick break Sims, Pursuit still a good move, but Brick Break is for Blissey.
Something was burning on the stove, so I had to type quick.

Khat, you should do a bit more reasearch. The things you said are really common knowledge. We know Weavile is a fast poke, and a born sweeper. We know about that Breeloom set. No offense at all, but you really must learn a bit more on the competitive standards.

EDIT:I am not trying to be mean, and you are free to help. But still, learn about the standards first.
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Old October 8th, 2007 (11:31 AM).
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How about this attacker?

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Wood Hammer
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Life Orb+Wood Hammer=OHKO for any Ground, Rock,Water, and Electric type. Especially if you're facing an Electivire. Just make sure it doesn't have Ice Punch.
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Old October 8th, 2007 (11:33 AM).
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*Sigh* Read what we are after. We are currently voting for a speedy pokemon. I love Torterra, but one Ice Beam, a VERY popular move, and its over. Torterra is on my team, but if you look at all the others that we have, it has no place here.
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We're looking to cut down on the Ice weaknesses, and with Torterra's 4 x Ice weakness, I doubt that would help the team.
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AA/brick break or counter w/ sash are better options then poison jab or metal claw. Weavile can handle sp atts a bit better than Aero can btw. :x
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Oh for goodness sakes, which Pokemon are we giving Fire Fang?! Aerodactyl's Stone Edge is a MUCH better option because it's stronger against Skarm believe it or not.
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Yeah, that's actually a good point. 100 + STAB = 150, much better than 65 x 2 = 130 for FFang.
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Are we opening ourselves up to a huge Ice weakness or what with Aerodactyle?!!
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Oh yeah. Well, my vote was always for Infernape.
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Are we opening ourselves up to a huge Ice weakness or what with aerodactyle?!!
I saw Fire Fang. So this is a good point to use it. but are there that many Ice Types in general? Edit: and Rock covers Ice. =/ Edit: II and even if Stone edge misses, you have Focus Sash.
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Who cares about Ice TYPES. We worry about Ice ATTACKS, like the ever so popular Ice Beam.
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Yep. And I edited my post to say that Rock covers that type, plus Focus Sash if Stone Edge misses. It should, IMO be used on all fragile sweepers. Edit: Good point, DA
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Ok, what do you suggest as an alternative? The desire lately seems to be for a fast sweeper, and the main choice that resists Ice is Weavile. I guess Infernape also resists Ice too.
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I saw Fire Fang. So this is a good point to use it. but are there that many Ice Types in general? Edit: and Rock covers Ice. =/
No i mean we have Donphan, Tangrowth,Dragonite and now Aerodactyle, all weak to Ice lol

I say mix Infernape, as we are going to get walled big time by either Skarm OR Blissey.
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Tangrowth Wall/Status Inflictor
Donphan Physical Wall
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Weavile/Mixed Infernape Phy./Mixed Sweeper (Quite Speedy)
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