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They do, but if I'm not mistaken they don't have the same effect.. If not I'm sorry for my mistake! But I'm 120% sure about the box thing not working in Diamond and Pearl..
Yes, the effect is a little bit different. In DS generation games, if you use the EV berry for a certain stat that had 101 or more EVs spent on it, it will become 100 instead of reducing just 10, so if the stat is under 101, it will reduce by 10. And I repeat, the box thing only works for pokemon with hacked stats.
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Wow, one berry would reduce full EVs to 100? Huh. Handy. And I can vouch for the box thing not working in D/P, ans I tried to re-EV train something at lv100, unsuccessfully.
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Wow, one berry would reduce full EVs to 100? Huh. Handy. And I can vouch for the box thing not working in D/P, ans I tried to re-EV train something at lv100, unsuccessfully.
Haha, too bad this isn't Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, they have de-level items in that game.
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true, but the stats are most likely horrible!

You can have a level 70 kyogre much stronger then one lvl 100 kyogre raised on candies and E4, it just depends on what you expect from him!
His stats are okay. But it doesn't really matter to me, since his moves K.O everything that moves. xD Lol. I'm just sad I can't transfer him over to my D/P games. *cries* He's like, my uber-fav. pokemon. He'd be awesome for training my Riolu into a Lucario at the E4.... Okay that was off-topic. xD

Yes, that's also true. Again, though, stats don't really matter much to me, because he has his One-Hit KO move in his arnsenal, which uber-kills everything. Lol xD But yeah, sometimes pokemon even lower than 100 can beat other lv. 100's.
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Haha, too bad this isn't Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, they have de-level items in that game.
that's what this game needs, especially when you trade for tht pokemon you like but you get a lvl 100 one that doesn't have the stats you want it too have.. XD
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His stats are okay. But it doesn't really matter to me, since his moves K.O everything that moves. xD Lol. I'm just sad I can't transfer him over to my D/P games. *cries* He's like, my uber-fav. pokemon. He'd be awesome for training my Riolu into a Lucario at the E4.... Okay that was off-topic. xD

Yes, that's also true. Again, though, stats don't really matter much to me, because he has his One-Hit KO move in his arnsenal, which uber-kills everything. Lol xD But yeah, sometimes pokemon even lower than 100 can beat other lv. 100's.
I believe OHKO moves have less accuracy in D/P games.
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I believe OHKO moves have less accuracy in D/P games.
Oh..Well, he's still awesome to me. x3

Besides, I don't know how to get him on my D/P games, so... *sigh*

I think there is a way to do that, but I'm not quite sure.

OT: Another way to boost your levels quickly is to put a pokemon in the Day Care Center. I think it's easier than training alone, but hey, it's the lazy way and it works for me. Eventually, though, you'll have to rely on the E4 and Rare Candies.
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I only CERTAIN Pokemon train with Exp. Share first, then once they're high leveled enough, I EV train them.
by that time they'll already have 510 evs..

don't people get evs :P
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by that time they'll already have 510 evs..

don't people get evs :P
Yea I know, when I tried to explain EVs to my friends, they thought I was a wierdo or something , but after explaining for like 4 days, they finally got it lol.
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Yea I know, when I tried to explain EVs to my friends, they thought I was a wierdo or something , but after explaining for like 4 days, they finally got it lol.
it's horrible really.. my friend was bragging how he raised his bagon into a shelgon, and then he asked what evs to train..

i was like 'you've already mucked it up..'

i'd only explained evs about 50 times to him :P
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Yeah, nobody really understands EV training these days. I tried explaining it to one of my friends, and she was like, EV as in the pokemon?

I felt like giving her a good smack across the face the moment she said that. xD

I never even mentioned Eevees... She must have been spacing out, because she wasn't even close to what I was saying. xD
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well i wish someone would explain it to me cause i read this whole thread and im still lost in the dark lol
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Yeah, nobody really understands EV training these days. I tried explaining it to one of my friends, and she was like, EV as in the pokemon?

I felt like giving her a good smack across the face the moment she said that. xD

I never even mentioned Eevees... She must have been spacing out, because she wasn't even close to what I was saying. xD
use the term 'effort values' then, all idiots get EV and EEVEE mixed up -.-;

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use the term 'effort values' then, all idiots get EV and EEVEE mixed up -.-;

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I should've said effort values, but I didn't think she would say something so... *shudders*

I mean, she has Ruby, Sapphire and Mystery Dungeon, so she's played/trained Pokemon before. I automatically assume that people who have trained pokemon have used the EV method, or at least know how it works. I guess I'm just that way, though. :P
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My fist one was a Typhlosion (In my gold...) I will never forget that day when i was a beginner and catching a lv7 and being so happy telling my mum n dad and alos when I would just walk slightly out of a town and get lost.... those were good days lol.
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Even though we've strayed from the topic a bit, if you're seriously trying to get your Pokemon to level 100, (Though really, with all the online matches rounding your Pokemon off to 50 or 100, I'm less determined this time around. A good moveset is all you need to battle online and stand a chance.) you should just battle the Elite Four over and over...but turn off battle animations. It speeds things up like you wouldn't believe, seeing as the battle pacing is FAR different in D/P than in previous games.
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Well, now thanks to compettitive wi-fi, you can sort of get away with not training to 100, what with the option to set them all to lvl 100 (or 50). Of course, you should still EV train em' but that can be done before you get to lvl 100, right?
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My strategy for leveling up is simple. If the pokemon is pretty weak (lvls 1 - 30), I get a strong pokemon with explosion and go to the Fight Area where wild pokemon are in the 50s. Then I put the weak pokemon at the front of my party and the first move of the battle is to switch the weak pokemon with the strong pokemon that knows explosion. Then I use the movie and the weak pokemon takes all the exp. Once that weak pokemon is strong enough to take on the Elite Four on its own, I train it there.
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My strategy for leveling up is simple. If the pokemon is pretty weak (lvls 1 - 30), I get a strong pokemon with explosion and go to the Fight Area where wild pokemon are in the 50s. Then I put the weak pokemon at the front of my party and the first move of the battle is to switch the weak pokemon with the strong pokemon that knows explosion. Then I use the movie and the weak pokemon takes all the exp. Once that weak pokemon is strong enough to take on the Elite Four on its own, I train it there.
Don't you have to heal it every time you use it though? That'd take a while.. Stupid Nurse Joy talks too much.
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hmm. my first was in red version, my charizard. =D
anyways, we're off topic
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i train all my pokemon to level 60 then i go to the elite four over and over,it's pretty easy
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(oh, i didnt notice the 3rd page, my post is out of place.)

Anyways, i would have agreed with you about NOBODY understanding/acknoledging EV training, but yesterday one of my friends FINALY understood the idea. he showed me an alakazam that Did in fact have at least 248 evs in speed.. but NOTHING else, and it had a Brave nature =P, He understood EVs, but only used 1/2 of the possible ones, and used an alakazam with a realy bad nature.
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Good level to take on this e4: 60 ~ 70

Traning areas:
Level 1-25: EXP SHARE / EV train on weak
25-35: The mansion under Hearthome / EV train
35-45: Iron Island - just get a super effective move to it
45-60 ~ 70: Fight Arena's routes, Stark Mountain etc.

70+, you Have to train at the e4.
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