3rd Gen EV training Question

Started by MarthEX June 28th, 2007 8:19 AM
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MarthEX

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Im starting to EV train now, and I have a question.


Does EV training work in Emerald? Because I battled about 12 Zubats, and when I leveled up, the Speed stat only went up 3.



Im new to EV training, so I dont know much about it


Thank you,
~Marth

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That's normal. The effects of EV-training is gradual, and although you may not see the boost in a stat that you were expecting, you'll see the results once you raise that Pokémon more in level.
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MarthEX

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That's normal. The effects of EV-training is gradual, and although you may not see the boost in a stat that you were expecting, you'll see the results once you raise that Pokémon more in level.
But see, I dont understand. Im getting the same results even if I didnt battle a Zubat.

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Is this Pokémon you're training untouched? Or did you use it in battle previously.

Either way, 12 Zubats isn't really much to see that high of an effect.

Also, just wondering, are you using Rare Candies to level?
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But see, I dont understand. Im getting the same results even if I didnt battle a Zubat.
The EV points are all spread out. Once you see it stat hit the occasional +4 or even +5 then you know you got an EV point. There are 63 extra points per stat that needs to be distributed over 100 levels. Once you get to level 100 your work will surely pay off.


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MarthEX

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Is this Pokémon you're training untouched? Or did you use it in battle previously.

Either way, 12 Zubats isn't really much to see that high of an effect.

Also, just wondering, are you using Rare Candies to level?


Untouched - No, my friend traded it to me.
Rare candy - No, im leveling up from battling the Zubats.

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Untouched - No, my friend traded it to me.
Bingo! You're friend may have unintentionally already maxed out the Zubat's EV's while training it. You cannot calculate the amount of EV's your Pokemon has left without an EV calculator.
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Bingo! You're friend may have unintentionally already maxed out the Zubat's EV's while training it. You cannot calculate the amount of EV's your Pokemon has left without an EV calculator.
Well, he hasn't actually mentioned what Pokémon he's training, but yea, this may be the issue, if anything. If you haven't finished EV-training it yourself yet, check with the girl in Slateport City who gives you an Effort Ribbon if your Pokémon is fully EV-trained. If you get it and you haven't gotten the 510 EV points by your own counting, then it was previously trained, and will mess up your EV-training count unless you determine how many EVs it had in what stats.

Of course, if your friend EV-trained it correctly and fully, you shouldn't have to worry then. =D
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MarthEX

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Bingo! You're friend may have unintentionally already maxed out the Zubat's EV's while training it. You cannot calculate the amount of EV's your Pokemon has left without an EV calculator.
Well, he hasn't actually mentioned what Pokémon he's training, but yea, this may be the issue, if anything. If you haven't finished EV-training it yourself yet, check with the girl in Slateport City who gives you an Effort Ribbon if your Pokémon is fully EV-trained. If you get it and you haven't gotten the 510 EV points by your own counting, then it was previously trained, and will mess up your EV-training count unless you determine how many EVs it had in what stats.

Of course, if your friend EV-trained it correctly and fully, you shouldn't have to worry then. =D
Espeon is the Pokemon im training.

Which girl? The 1 standing next to the guy in that little market?



Thanks for the help :)


~Marth

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I actually can't really say, as I never played Emerald. XD I only know stuff about EV-training, but I don't own R/S/E, just LeafGreen and Diamond. From what I just google searched, it says "There is a girl in Slateport City standing in the marketplace, next to the Energy Guru."
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- Trainer ID No. 14867 / 47749 / 17111 Alex - (there sure are a lot of "Alex" trainers lol)
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MarthEX

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I actually can't really say, as I never played Emerald. XD I only know stuff about EV-training, but I don't own R/S/E, just LeafGreen and Diamond. From what I just google searched, it says "There is a girl in Slateport City standing in the marketplace, next to the Energy Guru."
Yeah, thats the person that I was talking about :)


Thanks for all the help :)

And do you know if there is and how to get a Macho Brace in LeafGreen?


Thank you,
~Marth

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I believe I got mine by using the Item Finder right on the spot Giovanni was standing in Viridian City's Gym.
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MarthEX

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I believe I got mine by using the Item Finder right on the spot Giovanni was standing in Viridian City's Gym.
Thanks I just got it :)

Also, in EV training, is it better to train it if its untoched?



~Marth

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Well, if it isn't untouched (as in, someone already fought with it in battle), then you have to worry about what and how many EV points were already received by the Pokémon before you can effectively train it yourself. Especially if the Espeon in question got EVs that you want nothing to do with, as that becomes a waste.
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- Trainer ID No. 14867 / 47749 / 17111 Alex - (there sure are a lot of "Alex" trainers lol)
AlexLW ~ Pokémon HeartGold FC: 5328-3149-2134
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MarthEX

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Well, if it isn't untouched (as in, someone already fought with it in battle), then you have to worry about what and how many EV points were already received by the Pokémon before you can effectively train it yourself. Especially if the Espeon in question got EVs that you want nothing to do with, as that becomes a waste.
Well, I think my friend just battled it to evolve it. So that really doesnt make a difference, right?

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Oh, so one battle. Well that won't make too much of a difference, so you should be fine. If you want to make sure, you can always use certain berries to lower the EVs to 0, then reset when you realize how many berries you used. Otherwise, if you're confident your friend didn't do much else, then don't worry about it.
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¤~†~¤ Towa ni shinji tsuzukete... ¤~†~¤ 永久(とわ)に信じ続けて…. ¤~†~¤ Believe for eternity... ¤~†~¤
- Trainer ID No. 14867 / 47749 / 17111 Alex - (there sure are a lot of "Alex" trainers lol)
AlexLW ~ Pokémon HeartGold FC: 5328-3149-2134
Currently: a new person xD // Back in PC after 2 years x_x // new sig still in process
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MarthEX

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Oh, so one battle. Well that won't make too much of a difference, so you should be fine. If you want to make sure, you can always use certain berries to lower the EVs to 0, then reset when you realize how many berries you used. Otherwise, if you're confident your friend didn't do much else, then don't worry about it.
Well, it says he got it at Lv 5, he trained it 18 levels, I think. Or something like that.

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Oh, well, that's not horribly bad, but there can be a fair amount of EVs in it already, depending on how it got those 18 levels. You probably should double-check.
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¤~†~¤ Towa ni shinji tsuzukete... ¤~†~¤ 永久(とわ)に信じ続けて…. ¤~†~¤ Believe for eternity... ¤~†~¤
- Trainer ID No. 14867 / 47749 / 17111 Alex - (there sure are a lot of "Alex" trainers lol)
AlexLW ~ Pokémon HeartGold FC: 5328-3149-2134
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¤~†~¤ I love to help people in need, so ask your questions. Hopefully, I can help. ^^; ¤~†~¤


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MarthEX

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Oh, well, that's not horribly bad, but there can be a fair amount of EVs in it already, depending on how it got those 18 levels. You probably should double-check.
By checking the stats, right?


If so, these are them :


Attack : 47
Defense : 35
Sp. Atk : 80
Sp. Def : 64
Speed : 73

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It's hard to check by stats, as nature and IVs (individual values) will complicate such a method. Your best bet is to use berries that reduce EV points in a certain stat by 10. The berries are as follows:

Pomeg: reduces HP
Kelpsy: reduces Attack
Qualot: reduces Defense
Hondew: reduces Sp. Att.
Grepa: reduces Sp. Def.
Tamato: reduces Speed

Basically, get a mass number of the 6, and feed each type to the Pokémon until it says that the stat can't go any lower. However many berries you used (minus 1) times 10 would be around how many EVs it had in the stat. Of course, if you plan on retraining its EVs, using the same berries to remove unwanted EVs is a good idea too.
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- Trainer ID No. 14867 / 47749 / 17111 Alex - (there sure are a lot of "Alex" trainers lol)
AlexLW ~ Pokémon HeartGold FC: 5328-3149-2134
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puptiar247 is right. Every four points you earn will raise your stat by +1. So if you didn't EV train your espeon against those 12 zubats, speed wouldn't have gone up at all. Serebii has a great EV guide and lists places to find good EV training pokemon. I havn't been here very long so I don't know if this place has an EV guide.
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Just to add to my earlier posting. You have to be at level 100 to notice the 3 point speed increase. Here's the formula:

Stat = RoundDown((( BaseStat * 2 + IV + RoundDown( EV/4 ) ) * Level/100 + 5 ) * P)

It's that Level/100 that keeps you from realizing the full 3 points until you get to level 100. BTW, P = personality, which can be 90%, 100%, or 110%, depending on which personality type you have. There is a thread on this but I can't post the link to it because I don't have the required number of posts. The thread number is 72415.

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