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Old July 21st, 2007 (5:01 AM). Edited July 21st, 2007 by c_dog.
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Inner Focus
Jolly
252att 252speed 6hp
-cross poison
-confuse ray
-aerial ace
-u-turn

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Rock Head
Impish
252hp
-earthquake
-iron tail/Double Edge
-stealth rock
-roar

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Flash Fire
Timid
210hp 100def 200speed
-hypnosis
-nasty plot
-flamethrower
-energy ball

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Rain Dish
Modest
252hp 120def 138sdef
-Leech Seed
-Focus Blast/Synthesis
-Energy Ball/Giga Drain
-Surf

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Sturdy
Impish
252hp 58att 200def
-spikes
-rapid spin
-reflect/light screen?
-explosion

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Natural Cure
Bold
252hp 252def 6sp.def
-aromatherapy
-soft boil
-seismic toss
-thunderwave

Brock team I thought of just now, for fun only but I'd like to make it as competitive as possible, so please help. I actually want swampert in there somewhere. I wanted it over Forretress but I needed a support pokemon with rapid spin, and even better, reflect. The earthquake weak is a problem even though steelix does have stellar defense.
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Old July 21st, 2007 (5:23 AM).
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I don't know much about 4th gen but my suggestions are to use ludicolo as an annoyer but I don't know since i don't know what energy ball and focus blast do. Blissey looks fine. Forretress looks good too. It looks pretty good based on what I know (which isn't that much)
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Old July 21st, 2007 (8:37 AM).
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Inner Focus
Jolly
252att 252speed 6hp
-cross poison
-confuse ray
-aerial ace
-u-turn
fine I do wanna suggest you use hypnosis instead of confuseray

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Rock Head
Impish
252hp
-earthquake
-iron tail/Double Edge
-stealth rock
-roar

Probably here you might wanna try using iron tail because of stab

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Flash Fire
Timid
210hp 100def 200speed
-hypnosis
-nasty plot
-flamethrower
-energy ball

Taking hypnosis off of her and probably giving her something else like maybe darkpulse as another special attack to compliment nasty plot.

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Rain Dish
Modest
252hp 120def 138sdef
-Leech Seed
-Focus Blast/Synthesis/rain dance
-Energy Ball/Giga Drainenergy ball/Substitute
-Surf

No you dont want synthesis on this set. Reason for this is because he already has raindish and you probably should use raindance with this set.


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Sturdy
Impish
252hp 58att 200def
-spikes
-rapid spin
-reflect/light screen?/earthquake
-explosion

fine Might wanna use earthquake instead of lightscreen

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Natural Cure
Bold
252hp 252def 6sp.def
-aromatherapy
-soft boil
-seismic toss
-thunderwave

fine even though i hate that puffball with a passion. I dont like your EV's though. You probably should put a little more in spdef

Brock team I thought of just now, for fun only but I'd like to make it as competitive as possible, so please help. I actually want swampert in there somewhere. I wanted it over Forretress but I needed a support pokemon with rapid spin, and even better, reflect. The earthquake weak is a problem even though steelix does have stellar defense.
There you go....Hope that helps
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Old July 21st, 2007 (10:02 AM).
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Nightofshadow, what point is there in giving Ludicolo Rain Dance in a team where it's of more harm than use to the user itself? Ninetales and Steelix both suffer from Rain Dance and Forretress doesn't like Rain Danced Water moves, either. Seriously, if you're going to use any weather move, the whole team has to be based around it, otherwise it'll be more of a hindrance than an aid.
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Jolly
252att 252speed 6hp
-cross poison
-confuse ray Hypnosis
-aerial ace
-u-turn

Confuse Ray relies completely on luck and if your opponent doesn't happen to hit itself the same turn you use Confuse Ray, Crobat will most likely go down. And since you seem to want an offensive Crobat anyway, you might consider:

Crobat @ Choice Band/Life Orb
Adamant/Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP

- Cross Poison
- Brave Bird
- U-turn
- Pursuit

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Rock Head
Relaxed
252hp, rest in Attack and Defense
-earthquake
-iron tail/Double Edge
-stealth rock
-roar

Gyro Ball is cooler than Iron Tail or Double-Edge due to Steelix's abysmal Speed. Relaxed to even further power Gyro Ball.

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Flash Fire
Timid
210hp 100Sp.def 200speed
-hypnosis
-nasty plot
-flamethrower
-energy ball

I think you might want to put the EVs in Ninetales's good Sp.Defense rather than its mediocre Defense.

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Rain Dish
Modest
252hp 120def 138sdef
-Leech Seed
-Focus Blast/Synthesis
-Energy Ball/Giga Drain
-Surf

I don't know anything about Ludicolo in the 4th gen so I'll leave this unrated.

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Sturdy
Impish
252hp 58att 200def
-spikes
-rapid spin
-reflect/light screen?
-explosion

Looks fine. I'd say Earthquake over Reflect/Light Screen, though.

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Natural Cure
Bold
252hp 252def 6sp.def
-aromatherapy
-soft boil
-seismic toss
-thunderwave

What is there to rate about a standard Blissey?
Your team is pretty balanced. I don't see any obvious extremely common weaknesses and your team is capable of countering most common threats. (although Tyranitar might be a problem once Steelix is out of the way, same goes for Garchomp. Swampert, that you've already mentioned, would take care of both.
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Old July 21st, 2007 (10:14 AM).
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Rain Dish
Modest
252hp 120def 138sdef
-Leech Seed
-Ice Beam
-Energy Ball/Toxic/Fake Out
-Surf
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Old July 21st, 2007 (10:32 AM).
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Nightofshadow, what point is there in giving Ludicolo Rain Dance in a team where it's of more harm than use to the user itself? Ninetales and Steelix both suffer from Rain Dance and Forretress doesn't like Rain Danced Water moves, either. Seriously, if you're going to use any weather move, the whole team has to be based around it, otherwise it'll be more of a hindrance than an aid.

Your team is pretty balanced. I don't see any obvious extremely common weaknesses and your team is capable of countering most common threats. (although Tyranitar might be a problem once Steelix is out of the way, same goes for Garchomp. Swampert, that you've already mentioned, would take care of both.
Maybe to help deal with tyranitar???? Sounds like a plan to me =\
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Old July 21st, 2007 (10:47 AM).
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Inner Focus
Adamant crobat already has the speed it needs to outrun, it should focus on attack
252att 252speed 6hp
-cross poison
-Hypnosis
-Brave Bird
-u-turn

Sleep is great for Offensive Battlers

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Sturdy
Relaxed
252 SP. DEF/ 252 ATK/ 4 HP
-earthquake
-Gyro Ball
-Thunder Fang/Toxic
-Rock Slide

Steelix isn't fast enough to pull a Stealth/Roar.

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Flash Fire
Timid
252 SP. ATK/252 SPEED/ 4 HP
-hypnosis
-nasty plot
-flamethrower
-energy ball

Good.

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Swift Swim
Modest
252hp 120def 138sdef
-Rain Dance
-Synthesis
-Energy Ball
-Surf

You've already got Synthesis to recover, Synthesis and Rain Dance don't work, but its better than nothing. Besides, you want to put Ludicolo's Special Attack into good use.

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Sturdy
Relaxed
252 ATK/ 252 SP. DEF/ 4 HP
-Toxic Spikes
-Gyro Ball
-Swagger
-explosion

Toxic Spikes inflict damage every turn instead of only switching out, Swagger to force switches, Rapid Spin is gone because after you're done with everything else, you have nothing to do but bomb yourself, so put that Attack into good use. As for Defense EVs. no one is going to be stupid enough to mess around with a massive 140 base, so I'd say put the remaining in Special defense.

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Natural Cure
Bold
252hp 252SP. DEF/ 4 DEF
-aromatherapy
-soft boil
-seismic toss
-thunderwave

Don't waste EVs in Defense, it is completely a goner, even with EVs. It about matches Tyrogue's defenses, so don't

Brock team I thought of just now, for fun only but I'd like to make it as competitive as possible, so please help. I actually want swampert in there somewhere. I wanted it over Forretress but I needed a support pokemon with rapid spin, and even better, reflect. The earthquake weak is a problem even though steelix does have stellar defense.
Hope this Helps XD!

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Old July 21st, 2007 (11:04 AM).
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Inner Focus
Jolly
252att 252speed 6hp
-cross poison
-confuse rayHypnosis
-aerial ace
-u-turn

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Rock Head
Impish
252hp
-earthquake
-iron tail/Double Edge Ice Fang
-stealth rock
-roar

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Flash Fire
Timid
210hp 100def 200speed
-hypnosis
-nasty plot
-flamethrower
-energy ball

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Rain Dish
Modest
252hp 120def 138sdef
-Leech Seed
-Focus Blast/Synthesis
-Energy Ball/Giga Drain Rain Dance
-Surf

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Sturdy
Impish
252hp 58att 200def
-spikes
-rapid spin
-reflect/light screen?Earthquake
-explosion

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Natural Cure
Bold
252hp 252def 6sp.def 148 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd / 104 SAtk
-aromatherapy
-soft boil
-seismic toss
-thunderwave Ice Beam

Brock team I thought of just now, for fun only but I'd like to make it as competitive as possible, so please help. I actually want swampert in there somewhere. I wanted it over Forretress but I needed a support pokemon with rapid spin, and even better, reflect. The earthquake weak is a problem even though steelix does have stellar defense.
Brock doesn't have a Blissey, does he? D:
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Maybe it has something to do with the nurse Joy thing. Anyways, good team.
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Brock doesn't have a Blissey, does he? D:
He has a Happiny, but no one wants to rate that, :laugh:
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Old July 21st, 2007 (7:45 PM).
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Thanks for all the help guys/girls. I think this brock team will turn out to be pretty good(if i use it right). Brock had pretty good pokemon, to my surprise since he really only had around 8, not including their evo's. The two not on the team are Swampert and Golem. And yes Brock has a happiny, so I suppose I'm kind of cheating a bit but I always considered evo's the same pokemon(I use venasaur and blastoise on my ash team).
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Old July 22nd, 2007 (5:47 AM).
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Maybe to help deal with tyranitar???? Sounds like a plan to me =\
And let Starmie or even Empoleon slaughter half of your team instead? Doesn't sound like a very good plan to me. Last time I checked, Steelix and Forretress were plenty of protection against Tyranitar, both of which seriously hurt it with Earthquake and/or Gyro Ball.
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Old August 4th, 2008 (1:40 AM).
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it took me a year but i finally got this team together.. on shoddy. i just don't have the time to breed and train pokemon. this team turned out well, but it works a lot better with swampert, I think, instead of steelix. with steelix this team can go down to any decent trainer with a physical fire sweeper like infernape and arcanine. Swampert doesn't help the infernape problem too much but at least it doesn't share the same weakness as my other physical wall in forretress, which helps a ton. And Swampert can do the same thing that steelix does, with stealth rock and roar.
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You know theres a rule that says dont revive threads that have been died for a month.
This has been dead for over a year xD
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No reviving threads over a month old, even if they are your own. You should of just created a new thread and linked to this one to show your progress.
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