codymr14

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nicholson
Seen January 21st, 2014
Posted January 12th, 2014
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just think before we knew about Ev trainging all we used to do is all of the pokemon and raise thm to level 100 now if the pokemon isnt the right nature you got to spend hours breeding to find the right one you want then you have to spend even longer looking for the right guys to get certain EV's.... am i the only one who feels like this
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codymr14

Lakeland city gym trainer

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Seen January 21st, 2014
Posted January 12th, 2014
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ok so i am the only one who thinks thiis

like the reason im saying this is cuz im thinking of getting a tyranitar or metagross as a good team mate but i dont know what to make him and what to ev train him or where so this is pretty much why it just to confusing
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codymr14

Lakeland city gym trainer

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Seen January 21st, 2014
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ya thats kinda what im getting at it is way to confusing but maybe if someone could help me out with it i could get a better idea of it and maybe think it is fun
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Posted September 5th, 2009
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EV training itself can be quite a tedious task, but once it's done it's really rewarding. And vitamins, Macho Brace, Pokérus and the held items that give you 4 EVs in their corresponding stats (Power Anklet etc.) really speed up EV training. So no, I wouldn't say EV training has taken the fun out of Pokémon because it makes the game twice as fun once you're done with it and get to use your EV trained Pokémon in battles.
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Posted July 17th, 2009
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spend ten minuets reading the guides on serebii.net and you'll understand, I don't think its taken the fun out of the game, but I took 5 hours of playing (not straight) to get a level 1. adament sneasel, only to realise that the daycare had goten rid of my bunearies ice punch and I didn't even get him with ice punch! I think that breeding is a little hard (specially for me) but EV training is pretty quick, half an hour a stat max if you do it right.
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Smarties-chan

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I don't think it's boring. A pain in the ass to get good IVs on pokemon, but the nature is easily obtained and you control the EVs you want.
IV breeding isn't that hard as long as you do it systematically. On my Emerald cartridge I got an Impish (thanks to Everstone) Rhyhorn with 31 HP, 30 Defense and Attack and around 24 Speed and Sp.Defense as the result of 1 hour of breeding.

codymr14

Lakeland city gym trainer

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Seen January 21st, 2014
Posted January 12th, 2014
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I don't think it's boring. A pain in the ass to get good IVs on pokemon, but the nature is easily obtained and you control the EVs you want.
ok here is what im talking about what is up with IV's and how do you check them and if htey are good or not cuz im trying to remake my lucario so he will be stronger and i dont know what nature or whatever IV's are for him/her
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drogontimer

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Seen September 15th, 2007
Posted August 31st, 2007
65 posts
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I don't care if a pokemon is good and I have it its going to be good no matter what you do. I think Ev training is stupid, and that you should just train a poke and deal with it. Although you can't really expect ppl to not get the strongest guy. It's just competitive nature, but I still don't agree with it.
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Seen September 9th, 2007
Posted August 12th, 2007
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da hell is goin on?!
firstly why would anyone think it was stupid, and why would anyone think it takes the fun out of the game.
Its like saying "i think those contests are stupid" well just dont do them then!!
You dont have to EV train or breed for perfect IV's, its a choice. Alot of people enjoy EV training and it brings hours more gameplay into the game as well as noticable benefits in your pokemon.
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Posted October 19th, 2008
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well, i for one think it makes it a little bit more fun.

it gives you something to sort strive for, and allows you to shape your pokes exactly as you want them.

although, i'm not a hardcore breed-all-day kind of guy, i usually use whatever nature i've got and work with it. iv's havent been a big thing for me either
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Posted March 29th, 2012
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EVs, IVs, and natures are what sets in-game and competitive play apart. While you're just playing the game for fun, natures, IVs and EVs mean nothing - the AI is too stupid for you to even need to consider any.

However, in the competitive world (ie, WiFi and soon-to-come official WiFi tournaments), those three things are nearly vital. I mean, all three things I listed determine if a Pokemon will dish out as much Attack/Special Attack as it can, or will determine if it can absorb as much [Special] Attack as it can. Would you rather have a Garchomp that can Attack with mediocre power, or a Garchomp that can attack with full power? Likewise, would you rather have a Blissey that can only take special attacks with somewhat ease, while crumbling to a single physical attack, or a jacked up Blissey that nearly every trainer HATES to see?

It's all up to personal preference if you want to train like this... but being a competitive battler myself, I can say with confidence that I can tell almost instantly if a team is EV trained.

But it in no way takes the fun out of it - no one's forcing anyone to "properly train" their Pokes. If you're playing in-game, it's not necessary at all to even bother with EVs, IVs or natures. But against the competitive bigwigs, it makes a world of difference.
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Posted January 19th, 2008
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The trouble is, it's busywork. The results of EV training, yes, it means you can tweak the Pokes to be optimal in battle. The process of EV training, however - it's not exactly the most fun. If, say, there was a hypothetical Master Creche which was only available after 100-ing the Battle Tower that applied the EV spread you wanted for 10,000 Pokedollars, would that take the fun out of competitive teambuilding? Or would it simply free up more time to try unconventional builds and put the emphasis on team design rather than having weekends of nothing but grinding it up?

I'm not criticising the concept of EVs or EV-trained Pokes, just the implementation of EV training.
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The trouble is, it's busywork. The results of EV training, yes, it means you can tweak the Pokes to be optimal in battle. The process of EV training, however - it's not exactly the most fun. If, say, there was a hypothetical Master Creche which was only available after 100-ing the Battle Tower that applied the EV spread you wanted for 10,000 Pokedollars, would that take the fun out of competitive teambuilding? Or would it simply free up more time to try unconventional builds and put the emphasis on team design rather than having weekends of nothing but grinding it up?

I'm not criticising the concept of EVs or EV-trained Pokes, just the implementation of EV training.
You're making it seem like EV training takes days to complete... not true! With WiFi trades nowadays, it's not too difficult to get your hands on Pokerus. That, combined with the Macho Brace can give you 4 EVs when you should get 1. I mean, I'm able to EV train a Poke (I mean completely) in less than an hour. And that was back in the days of Emerald.

Now IV-breeding... that's where it gets strenuous, and I don't advise it too much, unless you're highly devout. Because it gets VERY frustrating after a while.

But even taking more time, the benefits of re-breeding can pay off quite a bit - with moves, even. Sometimes rebreeding is necessary to get the moveset you want. There's an unlimited amount of ways to go about properly training a Pokemon; it's how you do it that is up to personal preference.
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Richard
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Posted December 20th, 2009
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17.2 Years
IV breeding isn't that hard as long as you do it systematically. On my Emerald cartridge I got an Impish (thanks to Everstone) Rhyhorn with 31 HP, 30 Defense and Attack and around 24 Speed and Sp.Defense as the result of 1 hour of breeding.
It's not too hard, just most of my parents have bad IVs lol. So I kinda have to rely on luck for good IVs. I Finally starting to get some decent parents with the pokerader though. Got a Camerupt with 31 Atk, 31 speed, and 28 SDef with a 10 chain. I need some good IVed Dittos though.
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Posted February 24th, 2008
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16.8 Years
If I decided today that I wanted an Admanat Ttar and dont care about the IVs then I could probabley finish it in about 5 hours, all you do is breed a ditto with an everstone with the nature you want with the other pokemon and theres a 50% chance it will pass on the nature. Also, if you have pkrus and one of the new items that gives +4 evs then you get a minimum of 10EVs in that stat per battle, and a maximum of 14, thats amazing, you can give you pokemon vitamins so that it equals 100EVs, so you only need to kill 15 pokemon to max evs in a stat if you use Vitamins as well, thats nothing!