has ev training taken the fun out of pokemon Page 2

Started by codymr14 July 22nd, 2007 5:10 PM
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Seen January 21st, 2008
Posted January 19th, 2008
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Oh, EV training isn't the worst offender in terms of busywork by any means.

But I defy anyone to tell me it's fun - it's mindless grinding, which punishes any attempt to strive for variety. Worthwhile, sure, if you're serious about your Pokes. Satisfying - possibly. But fun? No way.

Would anyone here not prefer it if you could unlock items or rooms where you can instantly set (or even just reallocate already earned) EVs, breed without having to walk 10,000 steps, and buy the Earthquake TM instead of having to do Battle Tower matches 1-21 three times back to back? All that has to be earned and unlocked somehow late into the postgame, obviously.

edit: willypiggy, I think 5 hours is probably a touch on the high side - but let's run with that. If I want to build a competitive team, once I have all the resources I need to reduce the effort involved, I then need to spend 30 hours breeding the entire squad - that's a full working week's worth of effort, and more gameplay time than many games get total, just to get a team worth playing competitively. That's 30 hours of pure grind. I'm all for the concept of power having to be earned but it's a bit OTT.
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Posted January 10th, 2008
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Yea, EV-training isn't exactly the most enjoyable act, but with rewards in mind, I kinda lose sense of such joy. XD When I EV-train, I end up mindlessly fighting the same monsters, every now-and-then adding 1 to my Counter App, double-checking the PP costs, and all this while I'm watching anime on my computer.

And I'm used to such mindless grinding anyhow. Anyone who has played an MMORPG, or even just a regular RPG, should be able to shut out their minds while they rack up the experience.

Anyway, with Wi-Fi capabilities, we now have people EV-training Pokémon for others as a service. So I can't say it is all that bad, nor does it really take that long if you don't really pay (that much) attention to what you're doing. XD
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no way, as i breeded again and again to get the right male ralts to make into a gallade, it began to suck the fun outta every thing, though i'm happy my pokemon all have the possibility to become strong to my likelyness, it's just stressing
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Ev Training hasn't taken the fun out of Pokemon for me. It gives you a sort of sense of accomplishment and pride when you battle with it, or when you level it up and you see that nice +30 in a stat. IV Breeding on the other hand; is very boring and not fun at all.
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EV training is one of the easiest things to do; what with all the vitamins and the exp shares and Macho brace and Anklets, it takes about 15 - 20 mins (xD - I EV-trained a gallade... the rest... i cant be bothered xD)
10 Vitamins, 152 more EVs to go, halve it first, 76, halve it again (pokerus) 38, halve it again (macho Brace) 19. Only 19 battles for it! (i halved 152 first because i use a +2 EV pokemon for everything ;)
Seen February 10th, 2008
Posted February 9th, 2008
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Yeah i agree with NekroBoi, vitamins is the first step towards EV training, so it saves about 12 extra battles with help of pokerus and macho brace. If you ever mess up on EV training, you can always resort to berries. Plus it raises their friendliness. Got to love 'em.:P

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I don't think it has. How boring would everything be if they're was no EVs or IV training? Electrive's Earthquake would always to X amount of damage with X nature, even with Motor Drive, he'll have Y amount of Speed. Salamance's Draco Metor would always to the same amount of damage to Dragonite and all Dragon Dances would be the same.

Even with natures, it's all too predictable and it takes the fun of strategy out of the game. But I guess that's for the really competivie players. If you don't want to EV train, no ones forcing you. Just don't be suprised when your team of Pikachu's and Legendaries get swept by Herracross.