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Hey Im not sure where to put this.... Where is a good place to train besides the elite four, a place where i can use the vs seeker.... No EVs needed...
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Hey Im not sure where to put this.... Where is a good place to train besides the elite four, a place where i can use the vs seeker.... No EVs needed...
East of Stark Mountain, in the Sandstorm on Route 228, you should see a female Ace Trainer near the entrance. Since she's got a Chansey, she makes for an excellent source of EXP.
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Cool man thx... I've been looking for one for ages :D
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Hi just wondering but can you bp power trick?
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umm idk i don't think u can anyway.....

k so i have another question does any1 know where i can find a list of what pokemo are in what teir ,i've tried google and its not helping much...:/
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I breeded a charmander a few days ago and i noticed it had a modest nature. So i calculated it's IVs and this is what i got-

Charmander - #4 (Modest)
HP: 22 - 31
Att: 0 - 31
Def: 0 - 13
SpA: 26, 31
SpD: 0 - 31
Speed: 0 - 31

My question is, is it any good?
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I breeded a charmander a few days ago and i noticed it had a modest nature. So i calculated it's IVs and this is what i got-

Charmander - #4 (Modest)
HP: 22 - 31
Att: 0 - 31
Def: 0 - 13
SpA: 26, 31
SpD: 0 - 31
Speed: 0 - 31

My question is, is it any good?
I have no idea. Do you know how IV calculators work? It looks like you just checked the stats at level 1.
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I have no idea. Do you know how IV calculators work? It looks like you just checked the stats at level 1.
Yeah i did checked its stats at lv1 since its on lv1. And now i dont know how they work.
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Yeah i did checked its stats at lv1 since its on lv1. And now i dont know how they work.
Alright, I'll explain. IV calculators don't magically give you exact IV numbers. Rather, they guess based on the Pokemon's stats. Since IVs work in the same way that EVs do (the benefits are given on the way to level 100, not all at once), it's nearly impossible to tell a Pokemon's IVs at level 1. You'll need to level it up to a high enough level to get a good idea of its IVs. 25 is a good level to shoot for to get an average estimate (10 if you're using Rare Candies and Metalkid's Calculator).

There are a number of ways to get Pokemon to a good level.
*The most obvious is regular battling. However, this is tedious, and you have to keep track of every EV you gain, or else you'll throw off the calculations.
*Do an IV battle. Since WiFi sets every Pokemon's levels to 100, you can check their stats there. Simply plan an IV battle online, then plug the numbers into a good calculator.
*Last, the Rare Candy trick (my preference). Get a lot of Rare Candies (20 is a good amount), save, then use them to level the Poke up. This works best with Metalkid's Calculator. This is definitely what you'll want to go for if you own Emerald.
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Alright, I'll explain. IV calculators don't magically give you exact IV numbers. Rather, they guess based on the Pokemon's stats. Since IVs work in the same way that EVs do (the benefits are given on the way to level 100, not all at once), it's nearly impossible to tell a Pokemon's IVs at level 1. You'll need to level it up to a high enough level to get a good idea of its IVs. 25 is a good level to shoot for to get an average estimate (10 if you're using Rare Candies and Metalkid's Calculator).

There are a number of ways to get Pokemon to a good level.
*The most obvious is regular battling. However, this is tedious, and you have to keep track of every EV you gain, or else you'll throw off the calculations.
*Do an IV battle. Since WiFi sets every Pokemon's levels to 100, you can check their stats there. Simply plan an IV battle online, then plug the numbers into a good calculator.
*Last, the Rare Candy trick (my preference). Get a lot of Rare Candies (20 is a good amount), save, then use them to level the Poke up. This works best with Metalkid's Calculator. This is definitely what you'll want to go for if you own Emerald.
I did not understand what the heck you just said. I posted that to get some help from the profressional and one simple answer. No or Yes
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does any1 know the answer to the question I stated befroe or no..if u haven't seen it here is is...

does any1 know where i can find a list of what pokemo are in what teir
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I did not understand what the heck you just said. I posted that to get some help from the profressional and one simple answer. No or Yes
Well, I kinda just said how they work... what was the question again?

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Straight Forward Answer - No

Proper Answer - How inaccurate can they be, I mean I could say without an IV Calculator that all the stats of one pokemon at level one can be between 0 - 31... WOW, Aren't I amazing

You need to level it up a bit, record it's stats and EVs as you level, and input into Metalkids Calculator (far superior to serebii's etc). That way you can get more accurate results

For the best accuracy, I'd suggest you do a level 100 Wifi Battle, record the stats, then disconnect. Don't worry many people do these battles, there is even a thread requesting such battles in the Wireless Battle Corner
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It's not my fault i was rude. I never meant to be rude. Oh one more thing, the calculator also said that another helpful lv could be 2. Aw but this means its going to ask me to lv it up again.


Edit- Sorry didnt read a post ehehe. IV battle eh? I'm going to check it out.
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Has anyone used Torment against a Choice Attacker before?

Because I just came up with an idea of using Torment against (example) CSpecs Alakazam, and then hitting Pursuit if they switch out

So I want to know if my idea is even possible to pull off
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I think the Choice User gets the "x Has No More Moves!" message. I think that happened to me once in the battle tower, but I can't remember. It's a neat way to force a switchout.
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I was thinking of a moveset for my adamant cranidos before i start to EV train it. Well here it is-

Ice Beam
Zen Headbutt
Thunderbolt
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My question is, can this moveset take down most of its weaknesses?
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I was thinking of a moveset for my adamant cranidos before i start to EV train it. Well here it is-

Ice Beam
Zen Headbutt
Thunderbolt
AncientPower


My question is, can this moveset take down most of its weaknesses?
First, Rampardos' weaknesses will outspeed and OHKO him, given how horribly frail the guy is. Don't bother trying to counter those, and just try hitting whatever is in front of him hard.

Second, know the difference between Physical and Special Attacks. Rampardos has 65 Base SPAtk, so take Ice Beam and Thunderbolt off. AP is outdone by Stone Edge/ Head Smash, and Zen Headbutt has terrible coverage. Go with this:

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Rampy doesn't have a particularly great movepool.
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First, Rampardos' weaknesses will outspeed and OHKO him, given how horribly frail the guy is. Don't bother trying to counter those, and just try hitting whatever is in front of him hard.

Second, know the difference between Physical and Special Attacks. Rampardos has 65 Base SPAtk, so take Ice Beam and Thunderbolt off. AP is outdone by Stone Edge, and Zen Headbutt has terrible coverage. Go with this:

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Jolly
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Crunch/ Head Smash
-Pursuit/ Head Smash/ Focus Punch

Rampy doesn't have a particularly great movepool.

Oh poo. Hmmm. I guess it's time to start cracking those fossils i collected over the past month. Oh, i hope you dont mind, but, can you please tell me if this is a good moveset for an adamant tyranitar i'm gonna work on after i finish rampardos?


Earthquake
Dragon Dance
Thunder
Outrage



I need some help before i start my new (and first) EV'd team.
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Um, I can't read that font when it's that size. But I had my friend decpiher it...thunder on TTar is epic fail. IF you want it to kill skarmbliss, run Boah. DDtar runs a lot lik standard gyarados, but a less bulky EV spread and a STABed stone edge to go along with EQ, taunt, and DD. Enjoy.
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Um, I can't read that font when it's that size. But I had my friend decpiher it...thunder on TTar is epic fail. IF you want it to kill skarmbliss, run Boah. DDtar runs a lot lik standard gyarados, but a less bulky EV spread and a STABed stone edge to go along with EQ, taunt, and DD. Enjoy.
So what you're saying is that, this should be my Tyranitar?


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Adamant/Jolly
Taunt
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I need to make a list so i can start making my team. Thanks for all of your help dudes.
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