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Old November 25th, 2007 (10:20 AM).
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I don't believe you really understand what EV Training is.

Here is the EV Guide from my Website:

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What are EVs?
"EV" stands for Effort Values. EV Training is a special type of training that can increase your Pokemon's strength by far! An EV trained pokemon is sure to be stronger than a non-EVed Pokemon. A Pokemon can gain the maximum of 510 EV points to split between the stats of HP, Speed, Attack, Defense, Special Attack, and Special Defense. Each individual stat can have the maximum capacity of 255 EV Points.
How do I get EV Points?
When you are in In-Game, battling specific Pokemon will give you some EVs in a certain stat. A Pokemon only gains EVs if it can gain Expertience Points. Whenever it gains Experience Points, the user gets EV Points. That means that if you run away, faint, or catch the opponent - you WILL NOT get EVs.
Each Pokemon provides different EV Points when they're defeated. They give a different number of EV Points as well as EVs in different stats.
How exactly does EV training help?
Like I said before, EV training can boost your Pokemon's strength significantly! So how does it boost your strength? Well, for each 4 Points you get while EV training, you get 1 extra Point in your stats. For instance: Starly provides 1 EV Point in Speed, so if you battle 4 Starlys, then your Speed stat will get one extra point. So that means if you max out your Speed EVs, then you will gain 63 extra Speed points. That means that a maxed EVed Speed stat will have 63 more points than the non-EVed pokemon!!!
I'm EV training, but my stats don't seem to change!What am I doing wrong?
You are doing nothing wrong. The results of EV training usually doesn't show up until your pokemon are at a later level. But not to worry, your EV work will be 100% shown.
Tips for EV Training ...
Well, there are some guidelines you should follow. Remember how you need 4 EVs to raise a stat? Well, 255 is not divisible by 4. So that means some of the EVs have no use! Thats correct. You should only get the maximum of 252 EVs in a stat. Be sure that the number of EV points you give to a stat is ALWAYS divisible by 4.
As you probably have noticed, EV training does take a long time. It requires patience and dedication in making a strong pokemon. So here's a tip: write your EV points down! Keep track of the EV points you've gained on a piece of paper - as I doubt you will be able to keep track of 252 EV Points all in your head!
Is there any way to speed up EV Training?
You're in luck: there is! Hold items can boost the amount of EVs a pokemon gains. Here are a list of items that increase EVs.
Stat Boosters - If you feed a Pokemon an item like Protein or Calcium gives you 10 EV points in the stat it raises.
HP Up --- Hitpoints
Protein --- Attack
Iron --- Defense
Carbos --- Speed
Calcium --- Sp. Attack
Zinc --- Sp. Defense

Macho Brace - Macho Brace will half your speed when it is held, but whenever you EV train, it doubles your EVs gained. For instance, Starly gives 1 Speed EV Point when it is defeated. So when a pokemon holding a Macho Brace defeats a Starly, it gains not one - but 2 EV points in their stat!
Power Items - Items like Power Anklet and Power Bracer will increase the EVs Gained by +4 EVs Points. So that means if a Pokemon holding a Power Anklet (Speed) defeats a Starly(1 Speed EV), it actually gets 5 EV Points in Speed instead of 1.
-Power Anklet --- boosts Speed EV training. When defeating Pokemon who give speed EVs the Power Anklet gives +4 in speed. For example, if you defeat a Starly you'll get 5 EVs in speed, one for initially defeating the Starly and four because your Pokemon is holding the Power Anklet

-Power Bracer --- boosts Attack EV training. When defeating Pokemon who give attack EVs the Power Bracer gives +4 in attack. For example, if you defeat a Machop you'll get 5 EVs in attack, one for initially defeating the Machop and four because your Pokemon is holding the Power Bracer

-Power Weight --- boosts HP EV training. When defeating Pokemon who give HP EVs the Power Weight gives +4 in HP. For example, if you defeat a Bidoof you'll get 5 EVs in HP, one for initially defeating the Bidoof and four because your Pokemon is holding the Power Weight.

-Power Belt --- boosts Defense EV training. When defeating Pokemon who give Defense EVs the Power Belt gives +4 in Defense. For example, if you defeat a Geodude you'll get 5 EVs in Defense, one for initially defeating the Geodude and four because your Pokemon is holding the Power Belt.

-Power Lens --- boosts Sp. Attack EV training. When defeating Pokemon who give Sp. Attack EVs the Power Lens gives +4 in Sp. Attack. For example, if you defeat a Ghastly you'll get 5 EVs in Sp. Attack, one for initially defeating the Ghastly and four because your Pokemon is holding the Power Lens.

-Power Band --- boosts Sp. Defense EV training. When defeating Pokemon who give Sp. Defense EVs the Power Band gives +4 in Sp. Defense. For example, if you defeat a Tentacool you'll get 5 EVs in Sp. Defense, one for initially defeating the Tentacool and four because your Pokemon is holding the Power Band.
Pokerus(PKRS) - Pokerus is NOT an item. It is a very rare disease obtained by battling a pokemon. The disease is even harder to obtain than a shiny pokemon! So if you get it, YOU ARE VERY LUCKY. This disease acts like the Macho Brace without the Speed halving. It doubles the EVs gained but the pokemon can still hold an item.
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Old November 25th, 2007 (4:54 PM).
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ok so 252 in both sp at, and speed, and a speed scarf, or whatever it's called, cause I need it to have a excellent speed.
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Old November 25th, 2007 (5:17 PM).
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ok so 252 in both sp at, and speed, and a Choice Scarf, or whatever it's called, cause I need it to have a excellent speed.
Remember that a Choice Scarf only permit the use of 1 move until switching out so make sure that all 4 moves are attacking moves only.

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Old November 25th, 2007 (6:38 PM).
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i've heard alot about swarms. what are they and how do i find a swarm of pokemon? (i know this is a stupid question)
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Old November 25th, 2007 (6:41 PM).
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Swarms: Every day, a certain rare Pokemon will become common in a certain area for that day only. For example, say there's a swarm of Nosepass on Route 206. For the rest of the day, Route 206 will have a lot of Nosepasses.

For a full explanation, and a list of these Pokemon, look here: http://serebii.net/diamondpearl/swarms.shtml
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Old November 25th, 2007 (6:43 PM). Edited November 25th, 2007 by johnnyownage.
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ty for telling me and the website was very helpful. :) how many pokemon u need for the national dex i forgot?

so you need to get the full national pokedex before u can find swarms?
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Old November 25th, 2007 (7:12 PM).
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This should really be posted in the Diamond Pearl (DS) section.

You need to catch 493 pokemon in the national dex
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Old November 25th, 2007 (7:40 PM).
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No, you need to have seen every Pokemon in the Sinnoh Dex, and gotten the National Dex to have Swarms
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Old November 26th, 2007 (12:56 PM).
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Who do yall think is the best physical attacking electric pokemon with a decent amount of speed.

I was thinking Luxray, but then Electivire came to mind. But is there any other PHYSICAL electrics that are fast?
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Old November 26th, 2007 (1:03 PM). Edited November 26th, 2007 by Shiraishi.
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Luxray is slow >_> If you want a STABd Thnderpunch, go Electivire. However, I recommend Medicham if you want someone to abuse the elemental punches well.

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Or you could go Mixed 'Vire..

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Ice punch
Earthquake
Cross chop

This Electivire allows you not to be blocked by physical walls, that have high def but usually poor Sp. def.
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Old November 26th, 2007 (1:04 PM).
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Jolteon, Electrode, and Raikou are all pretty fast. There's also Manectric, Raichu, Zapdos, and Electivire.
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Old November 26th, 2007 (1:06 PM).
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Jolteon, Electrode, and Raikou are all pretty fast. There's also Manectric, Raichu, Zapdos, and Electivire.
He said physical attacking. o-o
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Old November 26th, 2007 (1:12 PM).
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Well, since Vire and Luxray are pretty much the only physically- based Electric types in the game, I figured I'd just list all the speedy lightning types.
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Old November 26th, 2007 (2:56 PM).
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How do you copy-pasta your shoddy team? I went to 'Expert to Text' but I can't copy it :[
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Old November 26th, 2007 (2:57 PM).
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Um. Press Control + C. And then Paste it to the Text you want.
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Old November 26th, 2007 (2:58 PM).
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Thanks you just saved me 5 minutes of my valuable comp time =D
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Old November 26th, 2007 (3:40 PM).
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Luxray is slow >_> If you want a STABd Thnderpunch, go Electivire. However, I recommend Medicham if you want someone to abuse the elemental punches well.

[email protected] Scarf
Adamant
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 HP
Psycho Cut
Thunderpunch
Ice punch
Hi-Jump kick

[email protected] belt
Adamant
252 Atk/172 Spd/80 Sp atk
Thunderpunch
Ice punch
Earthquake
Cross chop

Or you could go Mixed 'Vire..

[email protected] belt
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252 Atk/172 Spd/80 Sp. Att
ThunderBolt
Ice punch
Earthquake
Cross chop

This Electivire allows you not to be blocked by physical walls, that have high def but usually poor Sp. def.
Umm...Where's the Special Attack to go along with that?

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Old November 26th, 2007 (4:21 PM).
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Yeah. Ice Punch and Thunderpunch are Physical in 4th Gen. As for the rest, they're Physcial as well. ;)
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Old November 26th, 2007 (4:42 PM).
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Yeah no need for special attack EVs. Thats the basic physical Vire
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Old November 26th, 2007 (4:53 PM).
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I think he just forgot that it was Thunderbolt that Vire needs. :D
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Old November 26th, 2007 (5:09 PM).
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What is Pokerus? (Sorry if this has been already answer, can't seem to find it.)

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http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9Rus

It's an awesome condition that doubles the amount of EVs a Pokemon gets. Spread it to all your Pokemon.
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how do u spread it to your pokemon?
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Old November 26th, 2007 (7:01 PM).
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I think that PokéRus does not spread to other Pokémon.
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Old November 26th, 2007 (7:07 PM).
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I think that PokéRus does not spread to other Pokémon.
Actually, you kinda can :/ Well, you can, to make it short and sweat.
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