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Old December 3rd, 2007 (3:23 PM).
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Well, I have an UT DD Larvitar, Adamant.

What EVs should I train it in?


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Old December 3rd, 2007 (3:24 PM).
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OK, guys, for a Physical Wall, who is better: Magnezone, or Skarmory? I'm using Magnezone, even though it's defense is lower. Why? Because my team lacks Special Power. (Don't look at the Trainer Card, it's not up-to-date). So....who should I use?
Umm... Magnezone can't wall at all. It's main purpose lately has been making it a Skarmblissy killer. So you should run Skarmory as it's a physical wall, spiker, and PHaser.
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Old December 3rd, 2007 (3:24 PM).
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Magneone can't wall. It'll just get phazed even if you get Magnet Rise up. >_>;
Here is the moveset:
Thunder Wave (to inflict status)
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Old December 3rd, 2007 (3:26 PM).
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Skarm doesn't survive Bolt-Beam, because of the "Bolt" part, but gets Shed Shell to counter Magnezone. On the other hand, Magnezone traps Skarm, (which can roost and lol, because it gets rid of the Thunder Weakness, and can survive with Shed Shell, recovery while getting rid of It's Weakeness, nice) and Thunderbolts her. Well, I'm >3'ing Skarm on this one. >3.
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Old December 3rd, 2007 (3:28 PM).
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Skarm doesn't survive Bolt-Beam, because of the "Bolt" part, but gets Shed Shell to counter Magnezone. On the other hand, Magnezone traps Skarm, (which can roost and lol, because it gets rid of the Thunder Weakness, and can survive with Shed Shell, recovery while getting rid of It's Weakeness, nice) and Thunderbolts her. Well, I'm >3'ing Skarm on this one. >3.
Alright, but are there any other good physical walls with good special attack?
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Old December 3rd, 2007 (3:32 PM).
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Alright, but are there any other good physical walls with good special attack?
If you ue the Chlorophyll Set on Smogon with Exeggutor, (also Uber Exeggurtor, and Choice exeggutor) thne it becomes a Wall, and a Special Attacker. Smogon says, off all the Chlorophyll Pokemon, Exeggutor has the highest Special Attack. I'm >3'ing the Cholorphyll Set because of that. >3.
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Old December 3rd, 2007 (3:33 PM).
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Slowbro and Suicune are absolute monsters. They wall very effectively and hit hard with CM boosted attacks.
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Slowbro and Suicune are absolute monsters. They wall very effectively and hit hard with CM boosted attacks.
Hmmm....is CM good on a Physical Wall? The Sp Atk boost is nice, but the Sp. Def............?
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I say Cresselia. It Sp atk is quite low but you'll see a big change after a few charge beams. >:D Eggy can't wall with only 85 Base Def >_>;;
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Hmmm....is CM good on a Physical Wall? The Sp Atk boost is nice, but the Sp. Def............?
In some exceptions like Slowbro, (who is seriously a better Physical Wall with base 80 Special Defense, and that nifty 110 Def) it is. edit: @ Shirashi, that's the first thing that came to mind with me. 0_o
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In some exceptions like Slowbro, (who is seriously a better Physical Wall with base 80 Special Defense, and that nifty 110 Def) it is.
OK then.
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Also, how 'bout Omastar?

Or Glaceon?
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So what would be a good nature, move pool, and ev spread for a sceptile, with this stratagey?
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OK then.
Surf
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Slack Off

Also, how 'bout Omastar?

Or Glaceon?
1.) Omastar is letdown by his rather shallow attacking movepool and his terrible typing. 2.) He can't learn CM, x.x If he did, it would be revolutionized, and everyone would be abusing it. But he does have quite the huge Defenese and Special Attack. 3.) As saif above, Glaceon can't learn Cm. x.x But the marvelous Special Attack is nifty. 4.) Yes, Glaceon is a niche pokemon that has the potetential to downright devastating in certain situations, to be sum it up. 5.) Overall, both of them are really great pokemon, and have the potential to be great, while getting away from using the Standards, but if you want to follow by your Rules, go Slowbro, or like I was first thinking and Shiraishi said, go Cressilia.
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OK then.
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Slack Off

Also, how 'bout Omastar?

Or Glaceon?
One offensive move? I'd replace Twave with something like Grass Knot or HP Electric.

And I wouldn't use any of those Pokemon for a wall. Omastar has bad typing to focus on the defensive side of battle and only really does well in a Rain Dance team. Glaceon is also bad as a wall as she has a weakness to SR.
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Nononononononono.

Slowbro is never a special wall. CM is there so it can boost its special attack attack to hit harder, and respectable special defense so it can tank both sides of the quadrant. Suicune is the same way.

Like a Curslax for example. It is a special wall yet, it Curses. See?
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One offensive move? I'd replace Twave with something like Grass Knot or HP Electric.

And I wouldn't use any of those Pokemon for a wall. Omastar has bad typing to focus on the defensive side of battle and only really does well in a Rain Dance team. Glaceon is also bad as a wall as she has a weakness to SR.
For the record, CMCune has only one move, (sometimes two because of prefrence, but mostly one) and does fine. So do you think Slowbro will have any problems? It's almost too simular, with a recover move and CM...
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Old December 3rd, 2007 (3:55 PM).
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Hmmm.....Slowbro then. And I really want to keep T-Wave, Slowbro is...well, slow.
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Hmmm.....Slowbro then. And I really want to keep T-Wave, Slowbro is...well, slow.
so what if its slow w/ a few clam minds slobro will be taking minimum damge from everythign and returnig them w/ powerful sp Attacks, speed isn't everything.
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so what if its slow w/ a few clam minds slobro will be taking minimum damge from everythign and returnig them w/ powerful sp Attacks, speed isn't everything.
Um. What FlareBlade said. Slowbro Isn't a Sweeper. And heck, just run Slowking with Trick Room if you want that.
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For the record, CMCune has only one move, (sometimes two because of prefrence, but mostly one) and does fine. So do you think Slowbro will have any problems? It's almost too simular, with a recover move and CM...
But Roar is usually there to cause damage because of Spikes or SR, so I consider it an offensive move. And if Slowbro doesn't have something like HP Electric or Grass Knot, Gyarados can come in and set up.
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But Roar is usually there to cause damage because of Spikes or SR, so I consider it an offensive move. And if Slowbro doesn't have something like HP Electric or Grass Knot, Gyarados can come in and set up.
Isn't that why you would switch out and Taunt Gyarados with a durable Taunter?
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Isn't that why you would switch out and Taunt Gyarados with a durable Taunter?
Name one pokemon that can switch inot gyarados and taunt faster than it can after one DD. Ninjask doesn't count since it gets OHKOed. And the point of using CalmCune with Roar especially is to not switch out and sweep everything you possibly can.

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Um. What FlareBlade said. Slowbro Isn't a Sweeper. And heck, just run Slowking with Trick Room if you want that.
Slowking? Um, what? Who said anything about trick room anyways? Not to mention slowbro is way better than slowking...

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Hmmm.....Slowbro then. And I really want to keep T-Wave, Slowbro is...well, slow.
It isn't really supposed to be fast. It won't be outspeeding much even with Twave, not to mention the slew of lum users and ground types.
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OK then, how's this:
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Drapion as a Phys. Tank

Toxicroak as a Phys. Sweeper?
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