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Old December 8th, 2007 (7:32 AM).
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And lets not forget the Special Defense Boost from Sandstream.

Still, DDtar needs max speed EVs with Jolly
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Old December 8th, 2007 (7:33 AM).
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Adamant is the vote I'm giving away. Seriously, even if it deosn't outspeed, it has the Defenses to survive, 110 Def and 100 SDef, anyone?
Nasty Plot Hidden power Fighting Azelf anyone ?

Gengar Focus Blast anyone ?

Choice Specs Starmie Hydro pump / Grass knot Anyone ??

Close Combat Infernape ??

It needs max speed and Jolly or you get lol'd at by the above pokemon.
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Old December 8th, 2007 (7:35 AM).
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Now DDtar don't need max speed an jolly. Some variants use that, it depends on what you use. Some go for just all-out power and don't care if they are outsped really, which are the adamant ones that run similar to Gyarados...if I remember correctly. I'd have to check, as I'm not totally sure, but I could have sworn that adamant was most common on DDtar ;)

EDIT: That above post is quite enchanting...*shudders* Of course, you can always switch out, though it does defeat the purpose. Keep in mind DDtar is strictly for late'game sweeping.
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Old December 8th, 2007 (7:36 AM).
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Now DDtar don't need max speed an jolly. Some variants use that, it depends on what you use. Some go for just all-out power and don't care if they are outsped really, which are the adamant ones that run similar to Gyarados...if I remember correctly. I'd have to check, as I'm not totally sure, but I could have sworn that adamant was most common on DDtar ;)
Yep. Thanks for that, Anti-Pop.
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Old December 8th, 2007 (7:39 AM).
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I wasn't taking either "side" of this argument. DA has had a very strong argument, I kind of agree with him :/ I guess I suck at wording things.
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Old December 8th, 2007 (7:43 AM).
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So, what EVs should I place? I don't like the sound of a Choice Specs Starmie....
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Yep. Thanks for that, Anti-Pop.
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I wasn't taking either "side" of this argument. DA has had a very strong argument, I kind of agree with him :/ I guess I suck at wording things.
Sorry if i was slightly harsh in my last post, im in no mood today.

But my point is true, why should i have to switch out of these pokemon ? with the max speed or Jolly they are no longer a problem.
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Old December 8th, 2007 (7:45 AM).
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Sorry if i was slightly harsh in my last post, im in no mood today.

But my point is true, why should i have to switch out of these pokemon ? with the extra speed or Jolly they are no longer a problem.
Which yeah, in my edit, I did mention :P Switching out defeats the purpose. The one thing you can say is that DDtar is for late-game sweeping. the entire point is to take out counters and then dominate the opposition. I guess it depends on what pokemon your team already coulters as to what variant you use, and there are quite a lot actually :0
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For DDTar set: Bulk>>>Speed
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But if I have enough defense, I can DD, and make speed redundant.
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Old December 8th, 2007 (7:55 AM).
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Keep in mind TTar has I think 61 base speed. that certainly isn't going to make any speed boost redundant.
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Which yeah, in my edit, I did mention :P Switching out defeats the purpose. The one thing you can say is that DDtar is for late-game sweeping. the entire point is to take out counters and then dominate the opposition. I guess it depends on what pokemon your team already coulters as to what variant you use, and there are quite a lot actually :0
Yes it is mostly for late game sweeps, however Focus Sash mixape is incredible common late game an rips teams and especially T-tar apart. Nameless made me know that the hard way XD
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Old December 8th, 2007 (7:57 AM).
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Yes it is mostly for late game sweeps, however Focus Sash mixape is incredible common late game an rips teams and especially T-tar apart. Nameless made me know that the hard way XD
You now know why I hate 4th gen :P But remember, sandstorm...;)
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Old December 8th, 2007 (8:00 AM).
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You now know why I hate 4th gen :P But remember, sandstorm...;)
Sandstorm wont help that much when youve been Close Combated lol

Poor T-Tar...
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Old December 8th, 2007 (8:19 AM).
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So, what EVs should I place?
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Old December 8th, 2007 (8:25 AM).
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So, what EVs should I place?
Depends on what you want your TTar to do when faced with Pokemon like Azelf or Gengar. Switch out to a counter or outspeed the and take them out.
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are there any defensive pokemon that can learn perish song, and mean look?
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Old December 8th, 2007 (9:59 AM).
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Mismagius? Or whatever it is...
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Old December 8th, 2007 (10:00 AM).
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Mismagous is a special wall? If yes can it learn protect?
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Old December 8th, 2007 (10:01 AM).
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I'm not sure...not really my area. Marriland it.
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Mismagius can't special wall with that horrible HP >_>;
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Oh, are there any pokemon that can learn protect, perish song, and mean look?
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Old December 8th, 2007 (2:10 PM).
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Oh, are there any pokemon that can learn protect, perish song, and mean look?
Missy-D can ;) (misdreavus/mismagius). But it's really cheap and annoying, seriously...I recommend celebi as a perish song user, and lapras as well. Stops a lot of pokemon that can otherwise terrorize teams.
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Old December 8th, 2007 (2:30 PM).
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Ain't the point the battling is to demolish the other team^^" (but yeah that combination can be sort of cheap0_o) Unless Lapars has more options than mismaguis. What is Lapars capable of?
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I know this belongs here, but i posted as my own thread because it's easier to check and rarely anyone answers questions on here. anywho, since the moderators want it here:

Does anyone use a Bastiodon competitively?

If so, what strategy and moveset do you use on him/her? Pleaseeeeeeee
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