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Old December 8th, 2007 (5:29 PM).
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Bastiodon does not really work in the competitive environment as It's a physical wall that has 4x weaknesses to both Ground and Fighting attacks, which are incredibly common attacks, seen on every pokemon team.

And for all those who said TTar doesn't need bulk, Tauntrados does fine with a bulky set, and so does Taunttar
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Missy-D can ;) (misdreavus/mismagius). But it's really cheap and annoying, seriously...I recommend celebi as a perish song user, and lapras as well. Stops a lot of pokemon that can otherwise terrorize teams.
Ain't the point the battling is to demolish the other team^^" (but yeah that combination can be sort of cheap0_o) Unless Lapars has more options than mismaguis. What is Lapars capable of?
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Ain't the point the battling is to demolish the other team^^" (but yeah that combination can be sort of cheap0_o) Unless Lapars has more options than mismaguis. What is Lapars capable of?
Heal belling ;) It can perish song, haze stuff...it's a cool pokemon. And DD + Waterfall is fun as well.

And MissyD is easy to kill with the perish trapper. Just switch to your counter as it switches in (basically anything faster that can withstand most of its attacks) and then it'll flee for its life ;) So it kind of is bad anyways IMO. Great for battle tower though lol
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But any poke can just switch out with lapars not having a move like mean look keeping them in (unless in a double battle, and your other poke has mean look). Also what would be a good wall, that can sersouily hurt your opponet. I have tried Blissy, but it keeps getting wiped out in two moves.
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Old December 9th, 2007 (9:26 AM).
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But any poke can just switch out with lapars not having a move like mean look keeping them in (unless in a double battle, and your other poke has mean look). Also what would be a good wall, that can sersouily hurt your opponet. I have tried Blissy, but it keeps getting wiped out in two moves.
If you let blissey get 2HKOed you obviously don't know how to use it :/

And the point of perish song IS to make the foe switch :/
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Old December 9th, 2007 (9:27 AM).
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Blissey should last longer than that, unless you're putting it out with physical moves attacking it.

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Old December 9th, 2007 (9:27 AM).
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is phione in uber teir?(i dont want to waste my efforts training one if it is)
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Phione isn't in the uber tier. But its stats aren't that good. They're all average, so its pretty easy to take down :/
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Well it doesn't have the right ev spread^^" and the fact it keeps getting blown away by close combat. I know the right ev spread, I just ain't good in ev training.^^"
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Old December 9th, 2007 (9:32 AM).
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but if if ev trained with that awesome abilty and the moveset of

icebeam
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rest
rain dance

it would be a force wouldnt it? (phione is like a watered down manaphy)
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T.T thats what I meant by physical moves. Blissey is a special wall. So try to avoid physicals with that puny 10 Defese xD

Edit: a lot of other water types outclass Phione, and Rest nor Rain Dance won't be helpful since it won't last a turn. Kingdra, Milotic, Lapras, they all outclass it.
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Alright, I saw this topic just recently made and locked in the D/P section, but I'll post it here. My apologies if I missed it somewhere.

The move Acupressure, with the Evasion Clause, is this move still legal to use? I mean, it only has a 1/7 chance to raise evasiveness, but we all know of the luck of the draw.

So I ask; is it legal?
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Old December 9th, 2007 (9:40 AM).
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Well it doesn't have the right ev spread^^" and the fact it keeps getting blown away by close combat. I know the right ev spread, I just ain't good in ev training.^^"
Errm you really dont keep Blissey in for a Close Combat, thats suicidal.

Try walling special attacks with it.
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Alright, I saw this topic just recently made and locked in the D/P section, but I'll post it here. My apologies if I missed it somewhere.

The move Acupressure, with the Evasion Clause, is this move still legal to use? I mean, it only has a 1/7 chance to raise evasiveness, but we all know of the luck of the draw.

So I ask; is it legal?
I thought it could only raise Speed, Attack, Defense, Sp.Defense, and Sp.Attack.

I'm not completely sure.
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Old December 9th, 2007 (9:47 AM).
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Ok then what would be a good moveset for Blissy, and ev spread? (Cause mine sersouily is screwed up) Also what is a good special sweeper (or wall) that can learn mean look?
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two great sets, what to pick? What would problay be more useful?
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Old December 9th, 2007 (10:02 AM).
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two great sets, what to pick? What would problay be more useful?
Azonics set is the cleric set as in it heals the rest of your team with Aromatherapy. But gets walled by Gengar.

My set it the new D/P Blissey, it Stops Garchomp swords dancing up on you and bulky ground types who will try and switch into thunderwave, and Ice Beams them, and doesnt get walled by gengar.
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Hm I will think about a set. Is Slaking useful?
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Slaking is great as a hit and run style pokemon with choice band.

And you can combine both sets of blissey, get rid of Twave for aromatherapy, and the other 3 slots being softboiled, seismic toss, and ice beam. that's what I run, it works great.
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huh so have both Blissys have the same moveset, but different ev spreads. I think I will give it a shot. Oh boy this is going to be annoyoing breeding them
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Old December 9th, 2007 (10:17 AM).
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huh so have both Blissys have the same moveset, but different ev spreads. I think I will give it a shot. Oh boy this is going to be annoyoing breeding them
Depends on the power you want ice beam to pack. always run max Def though.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
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My prefered set, either EV spread works.
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Thing is, Bulky Gyarados + Taunt is commen nowadays. I would go for Thunderbolt over Ice Beam.
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Thing is, Bulky Gyarados + Taunt is commen nowadays. I would go for Thunderbolt over Ice Beam.
???

The term "switching out" comes to mind. Leaving blissey in against Gyarados is horribly foolish anyways.
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