FBI can listen even when phone is turned off

Started by thescarface1989 August 1st, 2007 11:40 PM
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Gunn

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" ... approved by top U.S. Department of Justice officials ... "

Ha, irony. *wiggles fingers*
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Gunn

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It's a conspiracy I tell you! o:
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Hell.
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Posted August 4th, 2012
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>.< God. That really does suck. Makes me want to move to the UK or something.

Good thing I'm not a known member of the mafia, or otherwise I would be in deep trouble.

and good thing I don't even have a cell phone, lol

Sometimes life gets lonely if you haven't talked to your friends in a while.

wolfie1177

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George Bush and his M-Effin' Patriot Act BS. They should be concentrating more on getting us out of Iraq and our issues right here in the U.S. instead of worrying about new and unusual ways to tap peoples' phones and invade privacy. They have to understand that if a terror attack is going to happen, it's going to happen, and those who are in on it most likely won't be talking on the phone about it openly.

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This does seem a little to far and I have supported the patriot act from the begining. But remember it's not like they're listening to random phone calls hoping you say bomb or something. They will only activate it if they have reasonable speculation and the minute they are proved wrong they'll tune out. But what can you do.... America...love it or leave it. J/K

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Posted March 29th, 2012
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Two words:

Patriot Act

Has anyone actually read thing behemoth? I think it's longer than War & Peace combined with Atlas Shrugged. XD

But the Patriot Act (approved by by our government, and backed up by many of the American people, who I will also say never even read it) does in fact give them the right to exercise this sort of monstrosity.

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Richard
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Posted November 10th, 2009
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Phew, thank God I dont live in the States. I'm here in Canada, and I really doubt that could do that down here, but you know when it comes to Police and all this goverment buisness it seems that they can do anything they want.
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Posted August 2nd, 2007
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Specifically, the Patriot Act

Allows the government to enter and search your home, without ever informing you. The U.S. Constitution requires not only probable cause to search, but that you be notified of the search. This law- Section 213 of the Patriot Act -- circumvents the notice requirement of the 4th Amendment.

Section 216 of the PATRIOT ACT allows the government to tap your phone and computer without probable cause. Under this section, a judge MUST rubber stamp a warrant as long as law enforcement certifies that the surveillance is "relevant to an ongoing criminal investigation." No probable cause of
criminal activity is required to issue the warrant. This violates the probable cause provision of the 4th Amendment.

Further, Section 218 allows the government to carry out secret searches and wiretaps without showing probable cause merely by certifying that there is a "significant" foreign intelligence purpose. This also evades the 4th Amendment.

Section 802 creates the crime of "domestic terrorism." This criminalizes acts that "appear to be intended" to "influence the policy of the government by intimidation or coercion" or to "intimidate or coerce a civilian population."

This section would make just about any act of civil disobedience in protest against government policies into an act of domestic terrorism.

Section 411 in tandem with section 802, expands the power of government to designate a group a "foreign terrorist organization." Any group which endorses so-called "terrorist activity," which under 802 may be otherwise lawful protest activity, can be designated a terrorist organization. This would enable government to designate such groups as the protestors at Vieques, Puerto Rico, or those against the World Trade Organization.

Section 411 also allows the government to indict anyone who provides material support or assistance to a terrorist organization. If you provided humanitarian or medical assistance to the Northern Alliance - foes of bin Laden - you could be arrested for supporting terrorism.

Finally, Section 412 of the PATRIOT Act permits the government to arrest and detain immigrants indefinitely for nothing more than a visa violation. In fact, of the 1200 known immigrant detentions since 9/11, the ACLU determined that only about five were detained on terrorism-related charges. Because the Department of Justice refused to release any information, the ACLU obtained this information from foreign embassies to whom the DOJ had courteously supplied the information where it affected one of their citizens.

Thus, what is too sensitive to show to Americans, the Department of Justice has no problem revealing to Islamic nations.
This is exactly the kind of stuff you get when you have politicians wanting to globalize every aspect of our lives and take away our civil liberties in the name of "national security" while leaving our borders wide open to terrorists and illegal immigrants.

There's nothing patriotic about the "Patriot Act" at all. If any of our founding fathers were alive today, Bush would surely be tried and executed for crimes against America and Humanity in general. (Yes, that's extreme, but there is a difference between limited constitutional government, and large, everywhere-overreaching government that meddles in every aspect of society possible such as what we have now.)

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Posted September 21st, 2008
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Can't anybody get any privacy anymore?

Then it gives me the idea to mess with thier heads.
Like calling my friend and saying:

"Hay dudezz, wee hould toe-tal-e mak a piKaschoo shaped bombz!!!"
"ZOMG!!! I knowz tright???"

Then when they come into my house, I would charge them for Breaking & Entering.
Seen November 10th, 2007
Posted October 30th, 2007
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Can't anybody get any privacy anymore?

Then it gives me the idea to mess with thier heads.
Like calling my friend and saying:

"Hay dudezz, wee hould toe-tal-e mak a piKaschoo shaped bombz!!!"
"ZOMG!!! I knowz tright???"

Then when they come into my house, I would charge them for Breaking & Entering.
Haha... But you can't charge them. =P Your parents can though. ^^


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Posted August 22nd, 2009
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If its any consolation to you, for most phones it wouldn't work if the battery is simply removed.
There isn't enough current running through a small handset for transmitting and recieving the transmissions/signals. :cheeky:

Eitherway, people complaining about privacy.. Why would FBI want to listen in you anyway, if you have nothing to hide, who cares?
Seen November 10th, 2007
Posted October 30th, 2007
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If its any consolation to you, for most phones it wouldn't work if the battery is simply removed.
There isn't enough current running through a small handset for transmitting and recieving the transmissions/signals. :cheeky:

Eitherway, people complaining about privacy.. Why would FBI want to listen in you anyway, if you have nothing to hide, who cares?
True... I guess that they must be really bored to hear some stuff... ;< Oh well, it's the FBI...~


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