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Old August 6th, 2007 (7:44 AM).
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A wall vs wall fight seems to happen to me a lot =.=; Right now my physical and special wall is forretress and togekiss(can be substituted with cradily) Apparently SkarBliss excels in a wall vs wall fight because of toss and drill peck >.< Any suggestions on good pokes?(Forretress excels in a wall vs special sweeper/physical sweeper fight as well. I Use gyro ball and watch the hilarity unfold!)
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Old August 6th, 2007 (5:43 PM).
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Egh, bumppity.....................
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Old August 6th, 2007 (6:32 PM).
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any physical wall that has explosion + some STAB special attack move takes care of skarbliss.
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Old August 6th, 2007 (7:06 PM).
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Ack, most physical walls have physical attacks x.x;;
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Old August 6th, 2007 (7:20 PM).
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most popular physical walls do, true, but you have to look deeper to find what you're looking for.

one example is torkoal. sure, it's fire typing makes it more vulnerable, but with the right moveset, it can manage to completely destroy the whole foundation of a team.

there's also cloyster, registeel, weezing, and magnezone.
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Except Cloyster has pathetic HP and can be fainted with a Surf attack [double resisted] because of its even more pathetic Special Defense...
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Old August 6th, 2007 (8:55 PM).
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Out of that whole list, only weezing seems like something looking into(but its HP fails in comparison to forretress) T.T Can I get a weezing moveset?
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Old August 6th, 2007 (11:35 PM).
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Except Cloyster has pathetic HP and can be fainted with a Surf attack [double resisted] because of its even more pathetic Special Defense...
1 , it doesn't not have a double resistance to water.

2 , it may have bad hp and bad sp def, but a surf still wouldn't OHKO it. you are either very misinformed, or are completely overexaggerating.

3 , in light of its bad hp and sp def, that's why you give it substitute. give it the right moveset, and it can do good things.


Weezing @ Leftovers
Bold/Relaxed Nature
252 HP/196 DEF/60 SP ATK
-Sludge Bomb/Flamethrower
-Flamethrower/Thunderbolt
-Explosion
-Will-o-Wisp/Haze

if you want to take care of more threats, flamethrower + thunderbolt will do. otherwise, thunderbolt takes care of skarm + gyara, while sludge bomb is a decent STAB option. everyone is always so insistent on having at least one STAB, but sometimes coverage is more important. some people prefer haze for garchomp and the like, but will-o-wisp is far superior. finally, explosion for blissey. few people would switch a blissey in against weezing because of explosion unless of course they plan on switching skarmory back in to take the explosion. overprediction can be a *****.
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Old August 7th, 2007 (12:04 AM).
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Thx! Due to weezing's crap HP, I cant settle for any HP IV below 30 D: Ugh.
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I don't get that Weezing set at all. :/

Weezing @ Black Sludge
Nature: Bold(+Def, -Atk)
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EVs: 252 Hp, 252 Def, 4 Sp. Atk
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- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split
- Explosion

I like sludge bomb over Fire Blast myself, but you're wanting to deal with Skarmbliss, so there you go.
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Old August 7th, 2007 (8:26 AM).
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Woot, thx! Heh..my team is gonna cause terror and destruction for skarmbliss..3 of my pokes will be able to take em out o.0(electivire,Mence w/ fire blast,weezing)
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The way I see it Drifblim would work if its defenses weren't so low, what with all that HP.
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Old August 7th, 2007 (9:34 AM).
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i like thunderbolt on weezing because it stops gyara in its tracks and allows it to immediately burn electivire. aside from that, it gives him a chance against bulky waters who have already been damaged. rather than use explosion from the get go, you can bide its HP for something more threatening, which, because of the extra special attack evs, will be easier to accomplish.
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