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Old August 6th, 2007 (7:07 PM).
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Here is my team so far. Im not to sure where to go from here. There are just a few things i dont want. I dont mind if you tell me to get rid of the one I have chosen so far, but i dont think i will get rid of them. I dont want Uber or Legendaries, and try not ot make it to OU. But if you have to, then you can.

[email protected] Life Orb
252 Speed, 252 Attack, 4 HP
Adamant
-Earthquake
-Ice Punch
-Thunder Punch
-Cross Chop

[email protected] Leftovers
??? (He is a wall if that helps)
Nature ???
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Wish
-???

[email protected] Leftovers
??? (He is my Physical Wall, and Hazer)
Nature ???
-Haze
-???
-???
-???

As you can tell, it needs a lot of work, so will accept any help given.
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Old August 6th, 2007 (7:12 PM).
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DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? I AM THE EMPEROR! YOU ARE MY NEMISIS!

So I'll only tell you to give Vaporeon either Acid Armor or Baton Pass.

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Old August 6th, 2007 (7:19 PM).
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Baton Pass w/ Wish is useless when you could just switch out. The effects pass with Wish, Reflect, and Light Screen even without Baton Pass.

3 slots for Weezing: Pain Split, Will-O-Wisp, and Sludge Bomb or Fire Blast (for Skarm or Forry). Impish Nature with max HP, 64 EVs in Attack, and the rest in Defense.

Vaporeon should have a Bold Nature with 100 HP, 252 Def, 152 SAtk.
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Old August 6th, 2007 (7:38 PM).
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Thx guys, here is my team so far:

[email protected] Life Orb
252 Speed, 252 Attack, 4 HP
Adamant
-Earthquake
-Ice Punch
-Thunder Punch
-Cross Chop

[email protected] Leftovers
??? (He is a wall if that helps)
Bold
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Wish
-Acid Armor

[email protected] Leftovers
252 HP, 204 Def, 64 Att
Impish
-Haze
-Will-o-Wisp
-Sludge Bomb
-Pain Split

But shouldnt Vaporeon get EV's in Sp.Def? He is going to be a Sp.Wall. And he only has base 90 Sp.Def. Shouldnt he get EV's there? Also i still need three more pokemon. I am trying to pick another poke for physical sweeping. Which of these should i pick?

Heracross
Aerodactyl
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Old August 6th, 2007 (8:25 PM).
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Okay you totally stole my Weezing and Aerodactyl without knowing it, dang you, but your my friend and you actually have WiFi, i'm guessing.

Use Aerodactyl and for Vaporeon.

Give it mostly HP and Sp. Def EV's I guess but leave a 40ish for Sp. Atk, i guess. I'm in a rush right now so sorry for anything I've overlooked.
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Old August 6th, 2007 (8:28 PM).
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Heracross pwns Aerodactyl. Heracross FTW.
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Old August 6th, 2007 (8:34 PM).
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Heracross pwns Aerodactyl. Heracross FTW.
I hope you don't mean 1 on 1. Because Aerodacytl takes that match.
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Old August 7th, 2007 (6:28 AM).
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ok, how about this for Vaporeon:

[email protected] Leftovers
252 Sp.Def, 100 Def, 156 HP
Bold
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Wish
-Acid Armor

Or is it really important to get some EV's in Sp.Att? Ok, ill go with Aerodactyl. Can someone give me a Moveset for it?
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Old August 7th, 2007 (6:33 AM).
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Switch Defense EVs with Special Defense EVs and then you'll be fine.
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Old August 7th, 2007 (6:41 AM).
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Take Aerodactyl, instead of Heracross, I recommend, but here are the movesets :

Heracross:
Item: Choice Scarf/Choice Band
Moves:
Megahorn
Brick Break
Stone Edge/RockSlide
Earthquake

OR..

Heracross:
Item: Salac Berry
Moves:
Swords Dance
Endure
Reversal
Megahorn/[Stone Edge/Rock Slide]
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This one depends what type you want to destroy, Megahorn for Psychic, and Stone Edge/Rock Slide for Flying types Reversal is both weak against :)

Now, for Aerodactyl!

Aerodactyl:
Item: Focus Sash/Power Herb
Moves:
Stealth Rock
Stone Edge/Rock Slide
Aerial Ace/Sky Attack (if you go Power Herb)
Double Edge (Rock Head ^^)



Those are my suggestions for those two :)
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Old August 7th, 2007 (6:57 AM).
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[email protected] Leftovers
252 Def, 100 Sp.Def, 156 HP
Bold
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Wish
-Acid Armor

ok, thx Lord Mike. Ok, i just recently saw the stats for Gyarados, and i was wondering if Aerodactyl or Gyarados whould be a better choice? They both dont have grass weaknesses, and they both have an Electric weakness, except Gyarados is not as weak to as many things. What should i pick?

Aerodactyl
Gyarados
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Old August 7th, 2007 (7:19 AM).
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[email protected] Leftovers
252 Def, 100 Sp.Def, 156 HP
Bold
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Wish
-Acid Armor

ok, thx Lord Mike. Ok, i just recently saw the stats for Gyarados, and i was wondering if Aerodactyl or Gyarados whould be a better choice? They both dont have grass weaknesses, and they both have an Electric weakness, except Gyarados is not as weak to as many things. What should i pick?

Aerodactyl
Gyarados
Did you read my post above?! ._.
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Stealth Rock sucks on Aerodactyl. Use Stone Edge/Double-Edge/Earthquake/Aerial Ace.
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Old August 7th, 2007 (7:23 AM).
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Stealth Rock sucks on Aerodactyl. Use Stone Edge/Double-Edge/Earthquake/Aerial Ace.
So tell me, how does Stealth Rock suck on Aerodactyl with Focus Sash exactly?
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Old August 7th, 2007 (9:01 AM).
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so are you guys saying I should use Aerodactyl over Gyarados?
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Old August 7th, 2007 (10:04 AM).
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so are you guys saying I should use Aerodactyl over Gyarados?
Since when was Gyarados mentioned until now? xD

Gyarados:
Item: Leftovers
Moves:
Earthquake
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
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Old August 7th, 2007 (1:00 PM).
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Stealth Rock sucks on Aerodactyl. Use Stone Edge/Double-Edge/Earthquake/Aerial Ace.
Please explain how...


[email protected] Leftovers

-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Wish
-Quick Attack/Toxic/Protect

Quick Attack is a good attack against pokemon holding Focus Sash along with depeleting any remaining HP.

Toxic is good for Vaporeon if it's a going to be a annoyer/wall. It just bring more to the abuse of Wish and makes it east for Surf/Ice Beam to finish.

Protect combos well with Wish. Another annoyer attack.
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Vaporeon's Special Defense is far too low for Acid Armor.

I suggest Toxic.
 

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