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Old August 9th, 2007 (8:06 PM).
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Does anyone else know which pokemon moves always go first aside from Quick attack and Extremespeed? I'm new here and if there is already a thread for this, please redirect me. If not, please go ahead and share the info. Thanks!
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Does anyone else know which pokemon moves always go first aside from Quick attack and Extremespeed? I'm new here and if there is already a thread for this, please redirect me. If not, please go ahead and share the info. Thanks!

I think that Shadow Sneak goes first...
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Old August 9th, 2007 (8:40 PM).
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yup and don't forget Fake Out.
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Aqua jet goes first too as well as Mach Punch.
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Old August 9th, 2007 (8:55 PM). Edited August 9th, 2007 by Paranoia.
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Well all the moves that go first are:

Aqua Jet (Water)
Bullet Punch (Steel)
Fake Out (Normal)
Ice Shard (Ice)
Mach Punch (Fight)
Shadow Sneak (Ghost)
Quick Attack (Normal)

And Extreme Speed!! (Forgot what type move it is)
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Well all the moves that go first are:

Aqua Jet (Water)
Bullet Punch (Steel)
Fake Out (Normal)
Ice Shard (Ice)
Mach Punch (Fight)
Shadow Sneak (Ghost)
and Quick Attack (Normal)
you missed Extremespeed Paranoia
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Old August 9th, 2007 (11:35 PM).
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Cool, thanks guys! Only question now is, of those moves, which ones would go first above the rest. I'm thinking it would just depend on the pokemon's speed but I could be wrong. Has anyone tested this out?

For example, if one pokemon uses quick attack and another uses extremespeed, who would go first, or would it just depend on their speed?
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It would depend on their speed.
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Another move (non attacking) that go first Helping Hand, Protect, Detect

All depend on speed. Extreme Speed Arcanine can hit hariyama(assumed faster) before get fake out-ed
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Well all the moves that go first are:

Aqua Jet (Water)
Bullet Punch (Steel)
Fake Out (Normal)
Ice Shard (Ice)
Mach Punch (Fight)
Shadow Sneak (Ghost)
Quick Attack (Normal)

And Extreme Speed!! (Forgot what type move it is)
Extremespeed is normal typed too.
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The attack order for fast attacks goes like this. Extremespeed vs. Mach Punch! (Pokemons speed gets added.) ExtremeSpeed 261 vs. Mach punch 240 The pokemon with the higher overall speed will attack first if both use a first attacking move at the same time, so Extreme Speed will go first over mach punch because the poke using Extreme Speed is faster in the speed stat then the poke using Mach Punch.
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Endure and Vacuum Wave go first too
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All depend on speed. Extreme Speed Arcanine can hit hariyama(assumed faster) before get fake out-ed
wrong i tried that and Fake-Out goes First NO MATTER WHAT.
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Old August 18th, 2007 (2:36 PM).
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So far, here are the list of offensive moves that go first:

Aqua Jet
Bullet Punch
Extreme SPeed
Ice Shard
Mach Punch
Shadow Sneak
Vacuum Wave
Quick Attack
Fake Out

So my next question is (and im gonna test this myself if I find the time), would Sucker Punch go before any of those moves because of its description? (Sucker Punch - if target uses an attack, this move will attack first. Fails if target does not use an attack)
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What if two exact pokemon of the same speed used fake-out?
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Old August 18th, 2007 (2:58 PM).
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I just tested Sucker Punch against Quick Attack. Quick attack was on a much faster pokemon and it indeed went before Sucker punch did. So my hunch about sucker punch going ahead of those moves listed is wrong. Sucker punch just falls into the same category as Speed vs. Speed. Whoever is faster goes first.

As for 2 pokemon of the same speed, that would be rather interesting though I dont hav two pokemon that have the same exact speed with those moves to try it with ; ; Sorry.
 

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