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Another RMT

Eos Aduro

The Kid with the Bullet Soul
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    Ok, so my team right now is

    Omastar
    Bold - Shell Armor
    EV's 252 Defense, 152 Special Attack, 106 HP
    Protect
    Ancient Power
    Surf
    Tickle (Needs Work)


    Aerodactyl
    Jolly/Adamant - Pressure
    EV's 152 speed, 252 attack, 106 HP (Needs Work)
    Thunder Fang
    Crunch
    Stone Edge
    Iron Head (Also Needs Work)


    Metagross
    Adamant - Clear Body
    EV's 252 attack, 102 Speed, 102 Defense, 56 HP
    Earthquake
    Meteor Mash
    Zen Headbutt
    Agility


    Gardevoir
    Modest - Trace
    EV's 252 Speed, 252 Special Attack, 4 Special Defense
    Psychic
    Thunder Bolt
    Thunder Wave
    Calm Mind


    Gengar
    Modest - LEvitate
    EV's 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Hyponosis
    Dream Eater
    Shadow Ball
    Focus Blast


    Milotic
    Calm - MArvel Scale
    EV's 252 Special Defense, 102 HP, 102 Special Attack, 54 Speed
    Mirror Coat
    Dragon Pulse
    Surf
    Avalanche


    Aragornbird and Icemans help would be appreciated.
     
    Why should I help you out, huh? What have ya done for me?

    Joking, joking....I'll sai that Ice Beam is better for Milotic than physical Avalance.
     
    Omastar

    -Rest
    -Surf
    -Sleep Talk
    -Ice Beam

    A set which will use Omastar defensive nature and EV's.

    A semi-sweeper set would be good for Omastar.

    -Surf
    -Rock Polish
    -Ice Beam
    -Ancientpower/Stone Edge
     
    Omastar@leftovers
    timid - Shell Armor
    156 HP, 224 Spd, 128 SpAtk
    surf
    ice beam
    knock off
    stealth rock/spikes/toxic spikes
    omastar's UU but he does have excellent defense and sp.att.. give it some speed to outrun the common tyranitar and knock off and stealth rock/spikes/toxic spikes make him a good supporting pokemon.


    Aerodactyl@focus band
    Jolly/Adamant - Pressure
    EV's 152 speed, 252 attack, 106 HP (Needs Work)
    earthquake/Thunder Fang
    Crunch
    Stone Edge
    stealth rock
    that's the OU aerodactyl


    Metagross@leftovers
    Adamant - Clear Body
    EV's 252 attack, 102 Speed, 102 Defense, 56 HP
    Earthquake
    Meteor Mash
    thunder punch
    Agility
    thunderpunch hits those skarmories hard

    Gardevoir@life orb/leftovers
    Modest - Trace
    EV's 252 Speed, 252 Special Attack, 4 Special Defense
    Psychic
    Thunder Bolt
    focus blast/will-o-wisp/Thunder Wave
    Calm Mind
    okay, but you can consider another move over twave. you have aero and gengar so it's not like your team is in desperate need of twave support. another special attack like focus blast or energy ball would be really helpful but then gengar already has a similar set, so you can use WoW. WoW cuts down your opponent's physical attack allowing you to calm mind up whithout much worry. don't WoW a special attacker because after a few calm minds their attacks are relatively harmless too.

    Gengar@life orb/leftovers/expert belt
    Modest - LEvitate
    EV's 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    destiny bond/hypnosis
    -energy ball
    Shadow Ball
    Focus Blast
    hypnosis is good but since milotic is better with it and destiny bond is like a guaranteed KO destiny bond makes sense here. having hypnosis on more than one pokemon is pointless if sleep clause is in effect

    Milotic@leftovers
    Calm - MArvel Scale
    EV's 252 Special Defense, 102 HP, 102 Special Attack, 54 Speed
    -surf
    -hypnosis
    -recover
    -ice beam

    hypnosis is your friend. it will save your life many times, putting your foe to sleep who otherwise could rip through your entire team, while they have to go through the pain of watching milotic recover hp.
     
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    Bleach and Sunshine said:
    Omastar

    -Rest
    -Surf
    -Sleep Talk
    -Ice Beam

    A set which will use Omastar defensive nature and EV's.

    A semi-sweeper set would be good for Omastar.

    -Surf
    -Rock Polish
    -Ice Beam
    -Ancientpower/Stone Edge
    Click to expand...

    the first set looks good, but the second set.. rain dance is better than rock polish with swift swim. the boost from surf is nice along with the speed.
     
    Penguinpal6 said:
    I hope you mean Focus Blast/
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    of course. focus blast for special attack. i don't know why i typed punch when i meant to type focus blast.
     
    omastar doesn't need to outrun tyranitar. it may be weak to earthquake, but it can take it.

    Omastar @ Leftovers/Enigma Berry
    Bold Nature
    252 HP/252 DEF/4 SP ATK
    -Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -Knock Off/Seismic Toss/Rock Polish
    -Stealth Rock/Toxic Spikes

    pretty basic. rock polish is for those who are weird and prefer being able to outrun a few incoming threats.
     
    Milotic
    Calm - MArvel Scale
    EV's 252 Special Defense, 102 HP, 102 Special Attack, 54 Speed
    Mirror Coat
    Dragon Pulse
    Surf
    Avalanche
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    Milotic is a bulky water and does not need an speed EVs as it was it doesnt need to out run anything.

    You could either go with Bold or Modest Nature. Calm nature is alright but she doesnt need the extra boost and you'll see why when I explain it below. Depends if you wanna hit hard or take more hits. Here are the EV spreads:

    Bold Nature: 252 Def, 200 HP, 58 Sp. Atk
    Modest Nature: 252 Sp. Atk, 200 HP, 58 Def/Sp.Def

    Moveset for Milotic would be the one c dog suggested. Milotic is quite bulky considering it can take one STABBED Thunderbolt with no Sp. Def EVS or a beneficial nature form most Pokemon. Therefore Hypnosis is a great choice to stop sweepers in there tracks.

    -Ice Beam (for Dragons and Grass types)
    -Surf (with STAB it has 135 base power)
    -Hypnosis (70% accuracy is still something ot be reckoned with)
    -Recover (Need I say more with its huge base HP?)

    Or if you are going with the Bold type there is a little variation with the Sleep Talker set. Persoinally I find it unreliable.

    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Ice Beam
    -Surf

    Due to Marvel Scale when you use Rest Milotics already above average is turned into a massive stat. Sleep Talk is kinda self explanatory.
     
    c_dog said:
    the first set looks good, but the second set.. rain dance is better than rock polish with swift swim. the boost from surf is nice along with the speed.
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    Yes, Rain Dance. But the Omastar had Shell Armor. =X

    Avalanche on Milotic?
     
    Punishment said:
    Milotic is a bulky water and does not need an speed EVs as it was it doesnt need to out run anything.

    You could either go with Bold or Modest Nature. Calm nature is alright but she doesnt need the extra boost and you'll see why when I explain it below. Depends if you wanna hit hard or take more hits. Here are the EV spreads:

    Bold Nature: 252 Def, 200 HP, 58 Sp. Atk
    Modest Nature: 252 Sp. Atk, 200 HP, 58 Def/Sp.Def

    Moveset for Milotic would be the one c dog suggested. Milotic is quite bulky considering it can take one STABBED Thunderbolt with no Sp. Def EVS or a beneficial nature form most Pokemon. Therefore Hypnosis is a great choice to stop sweepers in there tracks.

    -Ice Beam (for Dragons and Grass types)
    -Surf (with STAB it has 135 base power)
    -Hypnosis (70% accuracy is still something ot be reckoned with)
    -Recover (Need I say more with its huge base HP?)

    Or if you are going with the Bold type there is a little variation with the Sleep Talker set. Persoinally I find it unreliable.

    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Ice Beam
    -Surf

    Due to Marvel Scale when you use Rest Milotics already above average is turned into a massive stat. Sleep Talk is kinda self explanatory.
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    Are you kidding me?

    Standard Milotic:

    Milotic @ Leftovers
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
    -Ice Beam
    -Toxic
    -Rest
    -Surf
     
    Lord Mike said:
    Are you kidding me?

    Standard Milotic:

    Milotic @ Leftovers
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
    -Ice Beam
    -Toxic
    -Rest
    -Surf
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    How is that standard? Is Milotic actually going to survive those turns after she uses Rest? People arent going to be dumb and just let Milotic rest. Milotic needs a way to defend itself and that is offensively with Sleep Talk.

    How is a bulky water going to survive without any extra HP EVs? You gotta be kidding yourself.

    Sure my EV spread is sorta different form the current metagame but my movesets arent.
     
    Lord Mike said:
    Are you kidding me?

    Standard Milotic:

    Milotic @ Leftovers
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
    -Ice Beam
    -Toxic
    -Rest
    -Surf
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    are you kidding me? have you ever battled punishment's milotic? it's one of the best milotic out of the 20 something milotic i've battled against. if anybody knows how to make a good milotic it's him.

    seriously, using rest in 4th gen is a bad idea thanks to the new physical special split no pokemon is safe. rest is only viable for those that can't learn recover and is better with sleep talk. with the 2 turns of sleep you can recover to gain more hp there and maybe get off a couple of attacks. hypnosis and mirrorcoat are the only options as milotic's last move and you can't go wrong with hypnosis. nobody uses toxic and nobody would recommend toxic on milotic.
     
    Standard Milotic:

    -Ice Beam
    -Hypnosis
    -Recover
    -Surf

    Can everyone agree? >___>

    I like Punishment's set. It's good to have ideas.
     
    I agree that the Hypnosis set is the standard one for Milotic.

    Another reason why Toxic is no longer widespread is because of two common Pokemon: Skarmory and Metagross. Not to mention Heracross says thank you when it switches into one. Dont forget Skarmory's best friend the big fat pink fluff Blissey who can take those attempts of Toxic like candy and can heal her buddies with Aroma.

    Thanks for the compliments c dog. :)
     
    Compliments? Compliments are for the weak! Arrrgggghhh!

    Seriously, I am sick of seeing the same Milotic over & over. Those were great sets, made by both Punishment & Bleach. Although I saw Toxic, but never understood why.
     
    get used to seeing OU's sims, cuz milotic is only one of many. i always thought people would get sick of blissey first. the movesets can be changed but most of the sets are popular for a reason. unconventional sets are more prevalent among UU's since they're all about unpredictability.
     
    I guess your right, but how many times can Milotic help be given?

    People, please use the "search" colum. Put in "Milotic Moveset". When about 60 of em comes up, take your pick. I'm tired of seeing "I need a Milotic Moveset" over & over again.
     
    Agreed, but this thread has strayed off topic a lot from the original team. Starmie can put a dent in this team. Not a huge dent, but it could inflict nasty pain on a few pokemon.
     
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