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Canon Question.

Dashi_sato

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    Ok.............I think lots of people have been wondering....ARE THERE MORE THAN 1 OF EACH LEGENDARY POKEMON?!?!?!?!?!
    I dont mean in the games, bcuz obviously there is a legendary on each cartridge...I mean general canon. I doesnt make sense for there to be like 10 lugias or 5 arceus or groudons its just stupid, if those are super ancient pokemon who created the world, why would there be more than one?? In i know there is a baby lugia in the show, but that was just stupid.
     
    well, in a game, well, yeah, only 1 legend
    but, in the game world, there's hell a lot of same legend pokemon, it's just mess up -_-
     
    well, I think you need two or more of the Arceus, the maker of the world =))
    do you think they will fight each other?:D
     
    Yes, there are multiples of most legendaries. The only ones that are unique are Mewtwo (For sure.) and most likely Arceus, Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. All others have been seen to have more than one creature in their species.
     
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    About Arceus...

    IMO, it wouldn't make sense if you could capture the almighty "god of pokemon" in a ball. No, it wouldn't. My guess? The Arceus you meet in the games or w/e is actually only an avatar of that divine being. Then it could be multiple Arceus-es in the sense that they are all different avatars (The hindu god Vishnu has like 10 avatars, so it's plausible), all with some of the strength that the true god has, but nothing compareable to the original one. It might just be silly blabbering, but meh.
     
    About Arceus...

    IMO, it wouldn't make sense if you could capture the almighty "god of pokemon" in a ball. No, it wouldn't. My guess? The Arceus you meet in the games or w/e is actually only an avatar of that divine being. Then it could be multiple Arceus-es in the sense that they are all different avatars (The hindu god Vishnu has like 10 avatars, so it's plausible), all with some of the strength that the true god has, but nothing compareable to the original one. It might just be silly blabbering, but meh.
    I'd say that the protagonist of each game never really caught each legendary in game canon. After all, their is only one Mewtwo, but he appears in FRLG and three years later in HGSS, which means Red/Leaf never caught him in game canon.

    I hope this makes sense... What I mean is Legendaries (The most powerful ones, such as the Weather and Dragon Trios) are accesible to the player so that they are not limited to only normal Pokemon, but in game canon, were never captured.

    This probably sounds like random babbling. :/
     
    Yes and no, that depends on the legendary:

    There are dozens of different Regi locked up in remote locations, waiting to be awakened. However, there is only one (maybe two) Regigigas.

    There is perhaps one hundred, maybe two hundred Shaymin. They're more endangered then Farfetch'd is, though.

    Obviously there's only one Arceus.

    There was herds of Latias and Latios, but their population dwindled to the hundreds.

    There's perhaps less then ten of Kyogre and Groudon (with one main Groudon and Kyogre) still living today, and Rayquaza may be the last of it's kind, or there are two Rayquaza.

    Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina are each unique, with the exception of a baby of one of the three, made by Arceus for the hero of HG/SS, perhaps for in the case that something might happen to said member of the trio.

    They only made one Mewtwo.

    Mew is critically endangered.

    Manaphy is in the hundreds.

    Lake trio are unique, as far as canon is concerned.

    Celebi has many copies of itself, but all in all, it's the same individual. There are only two true seperate celebi (or maybe there's a bajilion of them, I don't know), a green one and a pink one.

    The legendary birds can mate, and have a small population.

    Heatran are perhaps one of the more "common" legendaries, dwelling deep underground where no human could survive going down.

    Legendary beasts (Suicune is NOT a cat, and Raikou is NOT a dog!) can go either way, perhaps the trio we see are merly the dominant members of their race, or perhaps they're the only members of their race, who knows?

    Jirachi is unique. Or maybe there's one sealed away in another cave somewhere. I dunno.

    Thre are currently four known Deoxys, one for each form resepectivly, but there may be more roaming around the Pokémon world, crash landing in meteorites in remote locations.

    And that's all I got.
     
    Yes, there are multiples of most legendaries. The only ones that are unique are Mewtwo (For sure.) and most likely Arceus, Dialga, and Palkia. All others have been seen to have more than one creature in their species.
    I agree with you! Some legends have more than one of themselves, but mewtwo, mew, and arceus only have 1. ;D
     
    What do you mean general cannon?
    If you mean the main canon then that would be the games.

    At any rate, there is no proof what so ever their is just on of every ledgey. People just like to be like "Now that I've said it, it must be canon." which is not true. The world is a big place and I don't think seeing 4+ regions means that their very well couldn't be Pokemon in other parts of the planet.
     
    Huh. IMO, in game canon there's probably one or very few of each Pokemon classified as Legendary, but each separate game is an alternate reality, perhaps connected by multiple avatars of Arceus, a theory which I like. In anime, it's pretty easy to tell. Those with more than one are portrayed or described as such. This post took liek three minutes to write, so feel free to rip it to shreds. xD
     
    @ Niprop : Here is your text, but with the right comment:

    There are dozens of different Regi locked up in remote locations, waiting to be awakened. However, there is only one (maybe two) Regigigas. -> not right, there are 1 of each.

    There is perhaps one hundred, maybe two hundred Shaymin. They're more endangered then Farfetch'd is, though. -> also only 1

    Obviously there's only one Arceus. -> right

    There was herds of Latias and Latios, but their population dwindled to the hundreds. -> in the 5th movie, they have a second latias, that was the father of the on we know, so they can make kids.

    There's perhaps less then ten of Kyogre and Groudon (with one main Groudon and Kyogre) still living today, and Rayquaza may be the last of it's kind, or there are two Rayquaza. -> 1 of each of them

    Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina are each unique, with the exception of a baby of one of the three, made by Arceus for the hero of HG/SS, perhaps for in the case that something might happen to said member of the trio. -> WTF??? Dialga, Palkia & Giratina are unique, so no babys. Or there must be another dimension with a own Time, Space & Reverse.

    They only made one Mewtwo. -> indeed

    Mew is critically endangered. -> also 1

    Manaphy is in the hundreds. -> not right, they can make a baby (phione), but there are not a great amount of them...

    Lake trio are unique, as far as canon is concerned. -> indeed

    Celebi has many copies of itself, but all in all, it's the same individual. There are only two true seperate celebi (or maybe there's a bajilion of them, I don't know), a green one and a pink one. -> There is only 1 celebi. In the 4th movie can you see more of them in the end, but that are the same one, from another Time (because Celebi can go in time).

    The legendary birds can mate, and have a small population. -> 1 of each

    Heatran are perhaps one of the more "common" legendaries, dwelling deep underground where no human could survive going down. -> only 1

    Legendary beasts (Suicune is NOT a cat, and Raikou is NOT a dog!) can go either way, perhaps the trio we see are merly the dominant members of their race, or perhaps they're the only members of their race, who knows? -> they are each unique, and they are dogs, because in G/S/C say a guy in the temple anything from the 3 legendary DOGS!

    Jirachi is unique. Or maybe there's one sealed away in another cave somewhere. I dunno. -> only 1

    Thre are currently four known Deoxys, one for each form resepectivly, but there may be more roaming around the Pokémon world, crash landing in meteorites in remote locations. -> there is only 1 Deoxys but he can change hes form.

    I'm not to sure about mew... There's two in the anime (Movies 1 and 8), but it's possible.

    That can be the same one, because in the First movie, you only see Mew, and in the 8th movie, you see also its home.

    Also, there are only one of the most legendarys, becease they are created for be the master of something (Uxie -> Knowledge, Moltres -> Fire, Dialga -> Time, ...).
    Mewtwo is 50/50 Legendary, because hes created from a fossil of mew.
    And its also possible that some of them have kids (Manaphy -> 9th movie, they have an Egg, Mew -> there was a fossil of it in the first movie, but there was still another Mew alive, Latias/Latios: The father of one of them has offer itself in the 5th movie, ...)
     
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    They're more endangered then Farfetch'd is, though. -> also only 1
    Odd, I thought Shaymin migrated together, which would imply that there was more then one. Guess we're talking about game canon, then. In that case, everything you said was right, accept for the regi things, but then again perhaps you are right.

    And about the Dragon Trio, in HG/SS, there is a particular event involving Arceus making a level one member of the trio for the player in Shinto Ruins when brought there, though whether that is registered as canon is still up for debate.
     
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