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Contests - Why is Beauty Blue and Cool Red?

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    I was wondering, for Contests, why is Beauty Blue and Cool Red (technically the same orange color as the Fire type, but described as red in text)? It should clearly be the other way around, since the color associated with beauty in much of the world is red. Blue represents coldness.

    And please don't tell me that the associations are proper because the Pokémon games say so. Just as the color red represents fire in much of the world, it also represents beauty.

    Here is a full list of associations for the color red:
    Aggression, anger, love, negativity, passion, socialism,communism, Valentine's Day, heat, fire, beauty, hunger, leadership, masculinity, injury, danger, blood, Christmas, volcanoes, conservatism (US), error, courage, stop, failure, drug intolerance, wrong way, death, Christianity, war.

    So why would the Pokémon games associate beauty with blue?
     
    Because volcanoes are cool. :BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

    *gets shot*

    I never agreed with this "colours are associated with this and that because some smartass with a phd in human psychology wrote it down somewhere" or whatever.
    I mean, I can relate any colour with anything in some way.
    When I think of beauty... I think of calm and elegant.. while red is like raging and furious.... think the ocean, the sky... idk

    Did you check whether japanese culture associates beauty with red too? (Along with christianity, drug intolerance and failure, lmao xD)
     
    Because volcanoes are cool. :BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

    *gets shot*

    I never agreed with this "colours are associated with this and that because some smartass with a phd in human psychology wrote it down somewhere" or whatever.
    I mean, I can relate any colour with anything in some way.
    When I think of beauty... I think of calm and elegant.. while red is like raging and furious.... think the ocean, the sky... idk

    Did you check whether japanese culture associates beauty with red too? (Along with christianity, drug intolerance and failure, lmao xD)

    Well, I can't find anything online that says Japanese people associate beauty with the color blue without any mention of Pokémon. The association of beauty with red is pretty much worldwide.
     
    Well, I can't find anything online that says Japanese people associate beauty with the color blue without any mention of Pokémon. The association of beauty with red is pretty much worldwide.

    https://www.ehow.com/about_6658499_meaning-color-japanese-culture_.html#page=0

    Red:
    red is the color of energy, vitality, heat, and power.

    Blue:
    blue is considered a feminine color, and so, in combination with the association with purity and cleanliness, blue is often the color young women wear

    Do you have anything that backs you up in your assertion that red = beauty? Fire is seen as red not because it's any kind of connotation, but because...fire is red. Think of the color white. For us, it's purity. For Japan, it's death. Color meanings are not universal.

    In addition, I think you misunderstand the "Cool" used in Pokemon. It's not used as "not hot", "this faucet pumps out cool water". It's used as "awesome", "this faucet shaped like a Horsea is the coolest thing I've ever seen".
     
    It doesn't mean Cool as in cold.
    It means Cool as in 'Cool', 'Wicked', 'Awesome' and those words are very much associated with Red.
     
    https://www.ehow.com/about_6658499_meaning-color-japanese-culture_.html#page=0

    Red:


    Blue:


    Do you have anything that backs you up in your assertion that red = beauty? Fire is seen as red not because it's any kind of connotation, but because...fire is red. Think of the color white. For us, it's purity. For Japan, it's death. Color meanings are not universal.

    In addition, I think you misunderstand the "Cool" used in Pokemon. It's not used as "not hot", "this faucet pumps out cool water". It's used as "awesome", "this faucet shaped like a Horsea is the coolest thing I've ever seen".

    Here are a few sites that prove red is the color of beauty:
    https://www.wagmag.com/articles/seeing-red
    https://www.art-pacific.com/artifacts/nuguinea/shields/asmat.htm
    https://www.manhattanmovement.com/event/ajkun-ballet-theatre/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red
     

    First link is about red as a clothing color, not red as a color in general. In addition, it's red as a Western clothing color. Irrelevant.

    Second link is about an ancient society and therefore irrelevant as Pokemon was not made by the ancient society in question.

    Third link is using one specific meaning of red for a ballet. The feminine version of red, not the masculine.

    And last link backs me up:

    In Japan, red is a traditional color for a heroic figure.

    Go back and read that quote again. A heroic figure. Heroic figures are cool. They're awesome, they're wicked, they're all of those words. So they match with the definition of "cool". You've shown that in Japan, the definition of "cool" much more closely matches red than "beauty", considering that's the first thing mentioned and beauty is pushed to the end in a sentence with 3 other separate meanings because it's unimportant. :)
     
    Go back and read that quote again. A heroic figure. Heroic figures are cool. They're awesome, they're wicked, they're all of those words. So they match with the definition of "cool". You've shown that in Japan, the definition of "cool" much more closely matches red than "beauty", considering that's the first thing mentioned and beauty is pushed to the end in a sentence with 3 other separate meanings because it's unimportant. :)

    And here is a quote from T.J. from Power Rangers in Space:
    Cool BLUE and the Power Rangers are back!

    And remember that T.J. was the Red Ranger in Power Rangers Turbo.
     
    Power Rangers are irrelevant here. I don't know how you think quoting something from a different, and lesser, fandom will help your case. It's also an American show. It sounds like you're forgetting where Pokemon is made. Toujours already pointed out the things about red in Japanese culture. Perhaps blue is "cool" here in America, but Pokemon isn't made here. Why should it adhere to American color meanings?
     
    Power Rangers are irrelevant here. I don't know how you think quoting something from a different, and lesser, fandom will help your case. It's also an American show. It sounds like you're forgetting where Pokemon is made. Toujours already pointed out the things about red in Japanese culture. Perhaps blue is "cool" here in America, but Pokemon isn't made here. Why should it adhere to American color meanings?

    Actually, Power Rangers is derived from the Japanese series Super Sentai.
     
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