4th Gen hacked pokemon

[sdc10]

ok, im plannin on getting pearl real soon so the concept of hacked or non-legit pokemon is new to me, what are the tell tale signs of hacked pokemon so i know i can avoid them when i trade, i want completely 100% legit pokemon

 

[POKEMASTERALEX]

haha good man. Pretty much a hacked pokemon is one that wasn't bred or caught in the game. And of course there are event pokemon which can only be obtained through such events.

A telltale sign of a hacked pokemon would be someone trading you a pokemon like a Lv 82 Dragonite with normal looking stats and an alright moveset. Generally you'd think that this was legit because it looks like the kid trained it, and leveled it up himself. Now, that would be true, but then you discover it was caught in a masterball. This is a classic example of a fake pokemon. You have to think, would YOU catch a Dratini or dragonair in a masterball? no. Always check the type of ball it's in. Generally non rare pokemon in masterballs are fake.

Now a new scenario, some person is trying to trade you a shiny Gengar. and you are like "OH SNAP" my first shiny!! make sure you take a second to think objectionably. First check to see what ball its in. This isn't a very good method because people have been known to toss a masterball at a shiny, no matter what the species. The next thing you should check is the ability and moveset. If it has an ability that non-shiny pokemon of that sort can't have it is a fake. My friend has a spirtiomb shiny, with the ability wondergaurd. Now you can tell this is hacked because normal spiritomb can't have this ability.
Next, check the moveset and make sure all of its moves can either be learned by tutor, tm, breeding or level up. A great place for you to check this info is serebii.net, smogon.com, or the pokemon guidebook #2 you can buy in stores.

Another way to tell if a pokemon is fake is to see if it works on Pokemon: PBR for the WII. If you upload your game's data and PBR shows a pokemon as a bad egg it is definitely fake. Be aware this can ONLY help you decide whether a pokemon IS fake. Because it sometimes allows fakes through that don't appear as bad eggs.

For event pokemon, the quest to see whether they are legit or not, gets even tougher. Every event pokemon has a certain ID# and OT from the event. For example if someone says that they are trading you a WSHMKR Jirachi, which is a jirachi from the pokemon collo. bonus disk. IT will have a set ID# and OT. Here is a big list of a lot of event pokemon and what their ID# and OT's should be
https://www.serebii.net/games/events-pkmn.shtml

Also, if some dude is trying to trade you a shiny event pokemon such as the 10 Anniv Dragonite. You can go to that webpage and check out what his OT ID# and stats should be. Upon checking you will find out that EVERY 10 Anniv Dragonite released was non-shiny. Then you will know that the pokemon you are looking for is fake.

Be aware that, sometimes the person you are trading with won't even know its a fake. Once I was trading with a kid who had a LV 100 Gengar that he wanted to trade with me. I checked its moves and everything and it seemed alright but then I looked at its stats and it had about 100-150 less stats than a Gengar at that level should have had.

If you go on the serebii.net Pokedex and search any pokemon, they give you the ranges of a Pokemon's stats at lvl 100. It will say the LOWEST possible stat and the HIGHEST possible stat. I recognized that this Gengar had a lot less than the lowest. So I knew it was a fake. This was unfortunate because the kid had trained it w/o knowing it was a fake.

 

[darkace]

truly a hack pokemon has weird everything that includes stats, ev, and just basically its ball like this guy said. always before trading look at the summary of the pokemon or your goose is cooked after training. also a bad egg is truly terrible if you ever get one put it in a box and never touch it again it can crash your gam.

 

[Dark Azelf]

truly a hack pokemon has weird everything that includes stats, ev, and just basically its ball like this guy said. always before trading look at the summary of the pokemon or your goose is cooked after training. also a bad egg is truly terrible if you ever get one put it in a box and never touch it again it can crash your gam.

No.....

There are good hack jobs and bad hack jobs, bad hack jobs you can easily tell, they are caught in cherish balls, master balls and stupid stats that are impossible aswell as the ability and moves, for example a wonder guard Spiritomb with Dragon Dance with 999 in every stat. Also you can tell if someone has done a bad job when there are spaces after a pokemons name for example if you send the poke out in a battle, it will say <insert trainer name here> send out Spiritomb[S-HIGHLIGHT] ! [/S-HIGHLIGHT]when it should say <insert trainer name here> send out Spiritomb!, as you can see, there are no spaces between the "b" and the "!", which means its legit. Now onto the good hack jobs, you can delete those spaces at the end of the name so it looks legit.You can also edit the place its met, where the egg hatched, the moves, the ability, everything to make it look legit, these are the ones you need to be wary of, you cannot tell the difference between these and legit pokes, unless you go into the games coding and edit and look the Hex value of the pokemon, very few people can actually do this, i can only think of one person who can and thats mr. goodbar at smogon.

pokemasteralex pretty much said everything else.

 

[lostprophetsown]

there should actually be a sticky which tells you ways to look out for hacked pokemon because i know lots of people who cant actually tell whether its hacked or real thanks for the help POKEMASTERALEX and dark_azelf

 

[POKEMASTERALEX]

sure!

yeah a sticky thread would be helpful, since they have one for just about everything else :)

 

[XEL]

POKEMASTERALEX everything you said was true, but i used to be a master game hacker, i could make any pokemon look legit

Spoiler:

i had even created a movie darkrai for my friend, not for me you will find out why later

, but don't worry i found out how cheap hacks were and i have stopped since, and for anyone else on this forum who might even think about asking me for a hack, the answer is NO i don't hack anymore, and i think it is utterly repulsive

 

[POKEMASTERALEX]

yeah, a good hacker is hard to find out. In a case where you think someone is hacking and lying about it, a good idea is to check their posts and see if they've had problems before with trading hacks. But no doubt sometimes you have to be skeptical.

 

[XEL]

yeah its basically imposible or really had to find out if someone is a hacker, especially they're really good, but being an ex-hacker myself i normally know what they are thinking, first of all
1. Get a ev calculator(you can go to psypokes.com for that) and a regular calculator, and a web page of the pokemon, that way you can calculate if a pokemon has 255 evs in each stat
2. Someone might go a little off with the stats and add like 10 or 20 more points, you can calculate that with the ev calculator
3. It is nearly impossible to get each stat with the amount of evs you want with it, the evs will always be a little off so check if they are all perfect or not
4. Look at how the pokes were met hacked ones will say "apparently met..."
5. Just go back to the looking at the ball it was caught in method
hope i helped :)

 

[Crystal Shaymin]

nmber 4. is wrong. "apparently met..." are when you get a traded pokemon csught in sinnoh

EX: piplup...

apparently met at lake verity at level 5.

^^^^^

see. if you trade a pokemon, or get one that has been caught in sinnoh that is traded, it will say apparently met.
some events also have apparently met.

 

[XEL]

^ ah i didn't kno that, i don't like trading, but the others factors should still help you seperate legit from hacked

 

[Supreme Dirt]

haha good man. Pretty much a hacked pokemon is one that wasn't bred or caught in the game. And of course there are event pokemon which can only be obtained through such events.

A telltale sign of a hacked pokemon would be someone trading you a pokemon like a Lv 82 Dragonite with normal looking stats and an alright moveset. Generally you'd think that this was legit because it looks like the kid trained it, and leveled it up himself. Now, that would be true, but then you discover it was caught in a masterball. This is a classic example of a fake pokemon. You have to think, would YOU catch a Dratini or dragonair in a masterball? no. Always check the type of ball it's in. Generally non rare pokemon in masterballs are fake.UNLESS IT IS FROM POKEMON XD GALE OF DARKNESS, ORIGIN: DISTANT LAND. The thing is supposedly a pain to snag.

Now a new scenario, some person is trying to trade you a shiny Gengar. and you are like "OH SNAP" my first shiny!! make sure you take a second to think objectionably. First check to see what ball its in. This isn't a very good method because people have been known to toss a masterball at a shiny, no matter what the species. The next thing you should check is the ability and moveset. If it has an ability that non-shiny pokemon of that sort can't have it is a fake. My friend has a spirtiomb shiny, with the ability wondergaurd. Now you can tell this is hacked because normal spiritomb can't have this ability.
Next, check the moveset and make sure all of its moves can either be learned by tutor, tm, breeding or level up. A great place for you to check this info is serebii.net, smogon.com, or the pokemon guidebook #2 you can buy in stores.

Another way to tell if a pokemon is fake is to see if it works on Pokemon: PBR for the WII. If you upload your game's data and PBR shows a pokemon as a bad egg it is definitely fake. Be aware this can ONLY help you decide whether a pokemon IS fake. Because it sometimes allows fakes through that don't appear as bad eggs.Sometimes a legit Pokemon will be blocked by PBR as well.

For event pokemon, the quest to see whether they are legit or not, gets even tougher. Every event pokemon has a certain ID# and OT from the event. For example if someone says that they are trading you a WSHMKR Jirachi, which is a jirachi from the pokemon collo. bonus disk. IT will have a set ID# and OT. Here is a big list of a lot of event pokemon and what their ID# and OT's should be
https://www.serebii.net/games/events-pkmn.shtmlMany have set natures as well (to my knowledge, all MYSTRY mews are Hardy)

Also, if some dude is trying to trade you a shiny event pokemon such as the 10 Anniv Dragonite. You can go to that webpage and check out what his OT ID# and stats should be. Upon checking you will find out that EVERY 10 Anniv Dragonite released was non-shiny. Then you will know that the pokemon you are looking for is fake.Indeed.

Be aware that, sometimes the person you are trading with won't even know its a fake. Once I was trading with a kid who had a LV 100 Gengar that he wanted to trade with me. I checked its moves and everything and it seemed alright but then I looked at its stats and it had about 100-150 less stats than a Gengar at that level should have had. Man that sucks.

If you go on the serebii.net Pokedex and search any pokemon, they give you the ranges of a Pokemon's stats at lvl 100. It will say the LOWEST possible stat and the HIGHEST possible stat. I recognized that this Gengar had a lot less than the lowest. So I knew it was a fake. This was unfortunate because the kid had trained it w/o knowing it was a fake.That's weird. Lowest=Zero IV, "negative" nature. When deposited, it doesn't store the actual stats of the Pokemon, but only its IVs and EVs. So that would mean the kid had never deposited it in the PC.

My comments are in bold. They should be noted.

 

[Dunsparce]

https://www.serebii.net/games/events-pkmn.shtml

The list is incomplete and has a mistake.

The Cherish Charmander has a second event move- Quick Attack

Forgotten 3rd Gen EVents:
-Wish/Iron Defense Bagon
-Wish Tropius

4th Gen Events:
-Cherish Octillery
-Cherish Magmotar
-Cherish Electivire
-Cherish Milotic
-Cherish Dragonite
-Cherish Salamence

Supreme Dirt: MYSTRY Mew's Nature is not pre-determined. My younger Brother and I actually went to the event(There's a Toys-R-Us nearby). Mine was Brave, and his was Quirky.

So far, the only Non-Japanese Events with pre-set Natures are the PBR Pikachu, Magmotar, and Electivire

 

[POKEMASTERALEX]

My comments are in bold. They should be noted.

~are legit pokemon sometimes blocked in PBR?

The list is incomplete and has a mistake.

The Cherish Charmander has a second event move- Quick Attack

Forgotten 3rd Gen EVents:
-Wish/Iron Defense Bagon
-Wish Tropius

4th Gen Events:
-Cherish Octillery
-Cherish Magmotar
-Cherish Electivire
-Cherish Milotic
-Cherish Dragonite
-Cherish Salamence

Supreme Dirt: MYSTRY Mew's Nature is not pre-determined. My younger Brother and I actually went to the event(There's a Toys-R-Us nearby). Mine was Brave, and his was Quirky.

So far, the only Non-Japanese Events with pre-set Natures are the PBR Pikachu, Magmotar, and Electivire

~Dunsparce, yeah the list is incomplete as I think I mentioned, I was really just using it as a reference, not an end-all be-all event list.
And some event's natures ARE pre-determined like the PBR Pikachu

 

[Dunsparce]

So far, the only Non-Japanese Events with pre-set Natures are the PBR Pikachu, Magmotar, and Electivire

I already said that. See?

Anyways, Pokecommunity's Event thread is alot more complete.