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Help Me With My Team!

HeraX

Heracross Trainer
  • 6
    Posts
    16
    Years
    After battling with my friends who are *Pros* I decided I would like to step up and give this a try. I've never battled before outside of my circle of friends and I've been studying for a while. After a couple months of solid work I've decided upon my team. My friends say its good to base a team around a central goal, and my goal is to get my Heracross ready to sweep.


    Gyarados @ Leftovers
    Adamant: 212 hp, 180 def, 118 atk
    Waterfall
    Stone Edge
    Thunder Wave
    Taunt

    My lead poke, paralyzes things, scares away other Gyaras with Stone Edge and Weavile doesn't really bother it. Taunt is there for screwing walls, obviously.


    Yanmega @ Expert Belt
    Speed Boost
    Modest: 252 sp atk, 252 spd, 6 def
    Bug Buzz
    Air Slash
    Hidden Power Ice
    Protect

    Revenge killer and star special sweeper. He's my backup killer.


    Gengar @ Wide Lens
    Timid: 252 spd, 252 sp atk, 6 hp
    Shadow Ball
    Thunderbolt
    Hypnosis
    Will o Wisp

    I need the double status to give Hera the edge and Wide Lens can't hurt. He can enter the game easily and cripple something when it is needed.


    Donphan @ Leftovers
    Impish: 252 hp, 252 def, 6 atk
    Earthquake
    Ice Shard
    Knock Off
    Rapid Spin

    Supporting Donphan. A nice physical wall. Knock Off gives more command over the game, and Rapid Spin is a given with the stealth rock weaknesses on the team. Can pick off things that have been worn down using Ice Shard, and hits Metagross pretty well too.


    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Natural Cure
    Bold: 252 hp, 252 def, 6 spd
    Seismic Toss
    Stealth Rock
    Thunder Wave
    Softboiled

    Standard Blissey with stealth rock. Thunder wave as well to slow down those fast special sweeps. (Alakazam, Gengar, etc....)


    Heracross @ Wide Lens
    Guts
    Jolly: 252 spd, 252 atk, 6 hp
    Megahorn
    Close Combat
    Swords Dance
    Stone Edge

    Star of the show. Once all its counters are gone or hindered to the point of no return, everything faster is slowed down, and all walls hindered, this thing comes in for the sweep.
     
    man it all sounds good on paper.. but only real way is to battle... im sure u wont encounter everything u named ... i mean im a off the wall kinda guy and will use pokemon u never saw coming and utilize their skills u know... its not about how well it looks it is all about performance and how well u adapt.


    good luck
     
    Gyarados @ Leftovers
    Adamant: 212 hp, 180 def, 118 atk
    Waterfall
    Stone Edge
    Thunder Wave
    Taunt

    My lead poke, paralyzes things, scares away other Gyaras with Stone Edge and Weavile doesn't really bother it. Taunt is there for screwing walls, obviously. It's ok


    Yanmega @ Expert Belt
    Speed Boost
    Modest: 252 sp atk, 252 spd, 6 def
    Bug Buzz
    Air Slash
    Hidden Power Ice
    Protect

    Revenge killer and star special sweeper. He's my backup killer. Okay for a Yanmega but you might find that Yanmega isn't the best special sweeper you could get. Maybe replace it with something like Choice Specs Sceptile. Also using Yanmega as a special revenge killer isn't a great choice because you're opponent could easily switch out and it'll be hard to bring it in everytime to revenge kill if SR is in play.


    Gengar @ Leftovers
    Timid: 252 spd, 252 sp atk, 6 hp
    Shadow Ball
    Thunderbolt
    Hypnosis
    Will o Wisp

    I need the double status to give Hera the edge and Wide Lens can't hurt. He can enter the game easily and cripple something when it is needed. Wide Lens does give you a big boost in accuracy so replace it with Leftovers. Also I don't really like you simply using your Gengar just to help Heracross sweep because a cleric could simply come in a screw up all of Gengar's hard work.


    Donphan @ Leftovers
    Impish: 252 hp, 252 def, 6 atk
    Earthquake
    Ice Shard/ Stealth Rock
    Knock Off/ Stealth Rock
    Rapid Spin

    Supporting Donphan. A nice physical wall. Knock Off gives more command over the game, and Rapid Spin is a given with the stealth rock weaknesses on the team. Can pick off things that have been worn down using Ice Shard, and hits Metagross pretty well too. You need Stealth Rock, it helps up so much and Donphan is a great pokemon to set it up, better than Blissey.


    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Natural Cure
    Bold: 252 hp, 252 def, 6 spd
    Seismic Toss
    Aromatherapy
    Thunder Wave
    Softboiled

    Standard Blissey with stealth rock. Thunder wave as well to slow down those fast special sweeps. (Alakazam, Gengar, etc....) Donphan is a better pokemon to set up Stealth Rock with. Blissey as a cleric works really well too.


    Heracross @ Wide Lens
    Guts
    Jolly: 252 spd, 252 atk, 6 hp
    Megahorn
    Close Combat
    Swords Dance
    Stone Edge

    Star of the show. Once all its counters are gone or hindered to the point of no return, everything faster is slowed down, and all walls hindered, this thing comes in for the sweep. Oh boy. It's not good to base your side simply on one pokemon unless its BP. Sure everything might be slowed down but simple yet effective physical walls such as Skarmory and Foretress could easily come in a block Heracross and strike back. Also after a few Close Combat attacks, you'll be wide open to a Extremespeed attack from Lucario and Arcanine. Really, basing your whole side around one pokemon like Heracross to just sweep isn't a great idea. Change your strategy then come back. At least your side could sort of fend for themselves after your "charged up" Heracross is gone. However at least you are learning. My advice to you is to experience battling some more instead of just watching others. But you are on your way to becoming decent at battling.
     
    Im laughing at the first 2 posts, i dont think they get the idea of "help me with my team" lol
    Anywayz that was off-topic, time to rate:

    Gyarados @ Leftovers
    Adamant: 212 hp, 180 def, 118 atk
    Waterfall
    Stone Edge
    Thunder Wave
    Taunt

    My lead poke, paralyzes things, scares away other Gyaras with Stone Edge and Weavile doesn't really bother it. Taunt is there for screwing walls, obviously.
    Fine

    Yanmega @ Expert Belt
    Speed Boost
    Modest: 252 sp atk, 20Spd/58HP
    Bug Buzz
    Air Slash
    Hidden Power Fire
    Protect

    Revenge killer and star special sweeper. He's my backup killer.
    I don't see the appeal of HP ice on this thing, because steel types wall it completely. I know everyone else uses ice but I've found fire to be far more effective. After one speed bost you'll outspeed a lot of stuff, so bulk it up a bit more.

    Gengar @ Wide Lens
    Timid: 252 spd, 252 sp atk, 6 hp
    Shadow Ball
    Thunderbolt
    Hypnosis
    Focus Blast

    I need the double status to give Hera the edge and Wide Lens can't hurt. He can enter the game easily and cripple something when it is needed.
    I personally dislike Wisp on this thing, but its your choice. Focus blast chews through stuff.

    Donphan @ Leftovers
    Impish: 252 hp, 252 def, 6 atk
    Earthquake
    Ice Shard
    Knock Off
    Rapid Spin

    Supporting Donphan. A nice physical wall. Knock Off gives more command over the game, and Rapid Spin is a given with the stealth rock weaknesses on the team. Can pick off things that have been worn down using Ice Shard, and hits Metagross pretty well too.
    Good, me like teh donphan

    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Natural Cure
    Bold: 212SpDef, 252 def, 44HP
    Seismic Toss
    Stealth Rock/Aromatherapy
    Thunder Wave/Thunderbolt
    Softboiled

    Standard Blissey with stealth rock. Thunder wave as well to slow down those fast special sweeps. (Alakazam, Gengar, etc....)
    New standard bliss if i remember correctly. Im yet to use it but ive been told it works. I perfer aromatherapy to SR but its a matter of preference again. Thunderbolt can stop ghosts stalling you, and still has a chance at paralysis.

    Heracross @ Life Orb
    Guts
    Jolly: 252 spd, 252 atk, 6 hp
    Megahorn
    Close Combat
    Swords Dance
    Stone Edge

    Star of the show. Once all its counters are gone or hindered to the point of no return, everything faster is slowed down, and all walls hindered, this thing comes in for the sweep.
    None of those moves are particulary inaccturate, wide lense wont benefit you too much. Life orb is however a bit rocking on this thing in my opinion. Its an ok set though

    Looks ok in general. It's slightly weavile weak, with 4/6 weak to something it carries, so be careful with gyarados because it looks like your best counter atm. But for a first team this is pretty good.
     
    I'd use Dragon Dance over Thunder Wave any time on Gyarados. It still outruns and it gets the Attack boost too. =D
     
    yah gengar should now focas blast and a grass move like giga drain or something.

    Not really. This set is fine. focus blast yes, energy ball no (Lol at giga drain). Grass doesnt have that good coverage, thunderbolt covers the same stuff (Namely water types) and more
     
    I agree on the grass moves. If you have Thunderbolt already, there's barely any use for grass moves (which would ONLY be Energy Ball, by the way, Mike) unless you fight Swampert in every battle. The combination of ghost moves and fighting hits everything for at least neutral damage, and Thunderbolt adds a few important coverages.

    I like the team overall, you at least have a pretty good idea of how these things work. And even though it's already been said, wide lense isn't necessary on a pokemon with relatively accurate moves. You may be worried about flying types and want to even it out with Stone Edge, but that's not worth your item being tailored entirely for one counter.
     
    I prefer Hypnosis > Protect on Yanmega.

    And like Gofre said, HP Fire > HP Ice
     
    I prefer Hypnosis > Protect on Yanmega.

    And like Gofre said, HP Fire > HP Ice

    Bwa ha ha i have a convert!
    1 down, 4million members to go lol
    Protect is better, its a cheap speed boost. One's really all you need. On a relatively frail poke with a quad weakness, its best not to put your money on a move with low accuracy.
     
    I prefer Hypnosis is way better than Protect on Yanmega.

    Fixed :)

    ^Yes I am agreeing with you.

    Anyways I'm not liking the SR weakness and your only physical wall and Spinner can't heal off damage. That will work against you. Donphan needs Rest over Knock Off.
     
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