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4th Gen I need to make a decision

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    i need to make a choise about my Toxicroaks. i have 2 of them and im wondering which is better. they are both at lv 50. one is RNG shiny and one isnt.

    Toxicroak 1:

    Hasty nature
    hp - 168
    atk - 124
    def - 64
    s atk - 114
    s def - 85
    speed - 113

    Toxicroak 2:

    Adamant nature
    hp - 146
    atk - 135
    def - 83
    s atk - 103
    s def - 98
    speed - 109

    i need your opinion on what stats are more important to have
     
    I can see how its hard to choose which one...
    I'm no expert but if I was to choose I'd choose Toxicroak 2: mainly because of its Attack and Defense stats.
     
    I can see how its hard to choose which one...
    I'm no expert but if I was to choose I'd choose Toxicroak 2: mainly because of its Attack and Defense stats.

    The thing is Toxicroak 2 is shiny, and his shiny sprite isnt as good as his normal sprite in my opinion ( i dont like his pink lips etc...)
     
    Why don't you just breed more until you get one with the nature you want most? That's what I usually do.
    Then after I do that I put the extra Pokemon I bred up for trade on GTS and get more new Pokes for it.
     
    Really for in-game play it doesnt matter which one you use. If you like the normal sprite more then the other use that one.

    If its competitve though you can EV train both to be good but generaly adamant is a better choice for competition.
     
    Why don't you just breed more until you get one with the nature you want most? That's what I usually do.
    Then after I do that I put the extra Pokemon I bred up for trade on GTS and get more new Pokes for it.

    ill try that if my next idea fails... does anyone know how to edit D/P sprites? im trying to replace my current toxicroaks sprites with a recolored one that are the same colors as the anime.
     
    If its an in game toxicroak, use toxicroak number two.
    If it is a toxicroak for competitive battling, i would still use the second one,
    but i would EV it in a certain way. If you like the shiny one, EV it in its core stats. :)
    hope this helps
     
    I would choose the second one.
    The main stats you want for a successful competitive toxicroak are attack and speed.
    You CAN build on its special attack rather than its attack and get a good move set for it, but it still isnt going to be quite as powerful as if you used its higher base attack.
    the only thing that the first one has on the second one in terms of majorly useful stats is hp.
    the 4 point difference in speed isnt influential enough to dismiss an 11 attack advantage. build your EVs around the second ones speed and attack.
    if you want to use it competitively i would recommend using berries to get rid of the other EVs its been given through normal use to do so.
     
    The question is one I can only answer if I know you.

    But nobody here knows you as well as yourself.

    Would you prefer a pokemon you like more, or a pokemon that is stronger?

    if the former, #1, if the latter, #2.

    If I were you I would go with #1.
     
    Mmm, i rather have a pokemon that i like and train it to their limits, if you like shiny toxi train him, if not, search for one you like to do (especifically nature, IV´s, EV´s, etc) but don´t forget to train the one you like in all aspects of the pkmn not only in strength...
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    please help me hatch my eggs i´ll return the favor

    [PokeCommunity.com] I need to make a decision
     
    OK i have made my choice, im sticking with my first Toxicroak mainly for its large hp and speed stat. i might try and breed an adamant one tonight.

    AND ALSO!!!!!

    i succeeded in editing its sprite to look like Saturn's Toxicroak!!!

    it looks epic now, if you want the sprites pm me and ill send them to you.

    i used CodeBrain's tutorial, you can find it in the documents and tutorials section if your interested :)
     
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