Kind of Ash Team, only with Skarm

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    Oki, so I made my own Ash team, and I forgot the last poke and used Skarm instead. I need all the EV's and the natures fixed. I only made it out of fun, so I didn't even had second thoughts about them.

    Charizard(M) @ Salac Berry
    Blaze
    Relaxed (-Spd, +Def)
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Att / 7 Def
    Aerial Ace
    Belly Drum
    Earthquake
    Substitute

    Sub in, Belly Drum and the Salac kicks in. Then, just sweep. The EVs suck, but I have no ideea what to use. I thought he gets speed from the Salac, and he could use some HP, since he's Belly Drumming...

    Venusaur(M) @ Leftovers
    Overgrow
    Brave (-Spd, +Att)
    EVs: 251 HP / 8 Att / 252 SDef
    Hidden Power (Grass)
    Leech Seed
    Sludge Bomb
    Synthesis

    I dislike Sleep Powder because of the Sleep Cause. If I wanted a sleeper, I would have chosen Breloom. Since he has Leech Seed + Synthesis + Lefties I thought he could be a tank, so the + to SDef.

    Blastoise(M) @ Leftovers
    Torrent
    Modest (-Att, +SAtt)
    EVs: 231 HP / 227 SAtt / 52 SDef
    Ice Beam
    Mirror Coat
    Rest
    Surf

    Yeah, Blastoise isn't made for sweeping. But meh :P. Ice Beam for grass, Surf for STAB, Rest for...well, the nice HP and SDef and Mirror Coat just because. I killed a Zapdos with Mirror Coat. I like it alot.

    Pikachu(M) @ Light Ball
    Static
    Timid (-Att, +Spd)
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtt / 252 Spd
    Thunderbolt
    HP Grass
    Surf
    Substitute

    He needs all the speed he can get IMO. I need better moves to replace HP Grass and Sub, but I don't really care, I only use Thunderbolt and Surf anyway.

    Snorlax(M) @ Leftovers
    Thick Fat
    Adamant (-SpAtt, +Att)
    EVs: 252 HP / 116 Att / 54 Def / 88 SDef
    Curse
    Rest
    Return
    Shadow Ball

    Curselax. Meh, I was too lazy to search for the typical EVs for him, so I just threw some in, like for the others :P.

    Skarmory(M) @ Leftovers
    Sturdy
    Impish (-SpAtt, +Def)
    EVs: 250 HP / 8 Att / 252 Def
    Drill Peck
    Rest
    Roar
    Spikes

    Standard, except for the EVs :)
     
    Doom Hammer said:
    Oki, so I made my own Ash team, and I forgot the last poke and used Skarm instead. I need all the EV's and the natures fixed. I only made it out of fun, so I didn't even had second thoughts about them.

    Charizard(M) @ Salac Berry
    Blaze
    Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Att / 4 Def
    Aerial Ace
    Sword Dance
    Earthquake
    Fire Blast

    I don't like Belly Drum, since it doesn't take long for Sword Dance to power up your attack just as much. Relaxed Nature? It needs the Speed. Charizard doesn't need Defense. Fix the EVs because there is so such thing as a 252/252/7 spread.

    Venusaur(M) @ Leftovers
    Overgrow
    Brave (-Spd, +Att)
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Att / 252 SDef
    Hidden Power (Grass)/Razor Leaf/Giga Drain
    Leech Seed
    Sleep Powder
    Synthesis

    Again, there is no such spread in EVs. Did you cheat? Anyway, you don't need Sludge Bomb, especially when you have Sleep Powder as a choice. Venasaur can heal big while the opponent is asleep.

    Blastoise(M) @ Leftovers
    Torrent
    Modest (-Att, +SAtt)
    EVs: 232 HP / 227 SAtt / 52 SDef
    Ice Beam
    Mirror Coat
    Rest
    Surf

    Good set. I like it.

    Pikachu(M) @ Light Ball
    Static
    Timid (-Att, +Spd)
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtt / 252 Spd
    Thunderbolt
    HP Grass
    Surf
    Substitute

    This works.

    Snorlax(M) @ Leftovers
    Thick Fat
    Adamant (-SpAtt, +Att)
    EVs: 252 HP / 116 Att / 54 Def / 88 SDef
    Curse
    Rest
    Return
    Shadow Ball

    This is good.

    Skarmory(M) @ Leftovers
    Sturdy
    Impish (-SpAtt, +Def)
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Att / 252 Def
    Drill Peck
    Rest
    Roar
    Spikes

    The EVs have to be divisable by four to get full effect. Keep that in mind.

    Standard, except for the EVs :)
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    I prefer to use PseudoBellyzard instead of a swords dance set because Charizard won't live that long anyway, so with max Speed and Attack, he might just take out two or three pokemon if I'm lucky, then drop dead. And I gave up the speed to be able to activate the Salac after the other one moves, so I can attack first without taking a hit. If not, I would belly drum and the other pokemon will just sweep me with a second attack. This way, the second attack usually destroys the sub. That's what I tried and it worked.

    Anyway, the EVs need to be corrected, but I need someone else to do that, as I suck at EVs.
     
    You'd be better off with Dragon Dance than Swords Dance. And Bellyzard ownz.
     
    Hicky said:
    You'd be better off with Dragon Dance than Swords Dance. And Bellyzard ownz.
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    Charizard's Speed is good enough. His Attack isn't the best, so that's why Sword Dance is most prefered. I've never heard of a Bellyzard. I'm used to doing Belly Drum with Rest. Snorlax is a Pokemon to do that.
     
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    Bellyzard was the most feared Poke a while back when the berries activated at 50% instead of 25%. It has since then been replaced by Swords Dance (not Dragon Dance), but it is now outclassed by Salamence.

    "Bellyzard" @ Salac Berry
    - Aerial Ace/HP [Flying]
    - Belly Drum
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Blast

    Doom is using "Pseudozard" that utilizes Substitute to cover that 25%, but it just isn't as effective since it is just too much HP loss.

    Charizard @ Leftovers/Salac Berry
    - Aerial Ace/HP [Flying]
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Blast
    - Swords Dance

    Again, Charizard suffers from bad typing (being Fire) and SD just doesn't do what BD did in the past. Poor Bellyzard, we knew it well. RIP.
     
    YoMama said:
    Charizard's Speed is good enough. His Attack isn't the best, so that's why Sword dance is most prefered. I've never heard of a Bellyzard. I'm used to doing Belly Drum with Rest. Snorlax is a Pokemon to that.
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    Just think about it...max speed and max attack...it's dreamy. It was better back in the old days, but now I just need that, and I get a OHKO in almost all pokemon except maybe a tank like Foretress and Skarm. It's a pity I gave up Fire Blast, or I would have had that covered too...Still, Pseudozard indeed leaves me with less than 25% HP, It gets to kill at least one or two pokemon before it passes out. That's enough for the retired old dude that is Charizard.


    PS: some EVs, anyone? pls
     
    Doom Hammer said:
    Just think about it...max speed and max attack...it's dreamy. It was better back in the old days, but now I just need that, and I get a OHKO in almost all pokemon except maybe a tank like Foretress and Skarm. It's a pity I gave up Fire Blast, or I would have had that covered too...Still, Pseudozard indeed leaves me with less than 25% HP, It gets to kill at least one or two pokemon before it passes out. That's enough for the retired old dude that is Charizard.


    PS: some EVs, anyone? pls
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    Sure. It might be a dream, but Charizard's probably not going to be around long enough to max out Attack and Speed. Charizard's faster than most Pokemon. Sword Dance is the best way to go.
     
    Usually Suicune or Swampert come in and ruin Bellyzards fun.. I know that from first hand experience and i used Pseudozard
     
    That's probably the reason why no one wastes their time on a Bellyzard or a DDZard.
     
    Ok, I asked for someone to rate the team and fix the EVs and natures, but it kind of turned into a Bellyzard topic. Please, would anyone do that? I know Bellyzard isn't as good nowadays, but i don't really care. Pax, AB, Sync, Mullet, anyone? some EVs? please? but make them good...
     
    I'm not good at EVs, but the main thing I'm wondering is how you got this 252/252/7 spread.
     
    Pokemon Trainer Jonny said:
    Snorlax is better with Sleep Talk And Solarbeam.
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    Lol. Solarbeam? I don't think so. Besides, the standard moveset for Snorlax is Curse, Rest, Shadow Ball, and Return. Doom Hammer was right on.
     
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    Return with a STAB does more than Solarbeam. 102 x 1.5=153. Solarbeam=120. Return=153. Also, Curselax will hit hard with Return. Solarbeam's just not worth it.
     
    STAB is Same Type Attack Bonus. An example would be Milotic would get a STAB from Surf because its a Water-type and Surf is a Water-type move. Return with a STAB on Snorlax will deal great damage.
     
    Pokemon Trainer Jonny said:
    :o Thx 4 explaining.
    Sadly I've wasted my Return TM.
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    What game do you have? Just curious. You can buy extra Return TMs at the Celadon Department Store in FireRed/LeafGreen.
     
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