LG Team

[.Bastion]

This is what I'm planning for my first run on Leaf Green...yeah, I'm pretty bad at doing this... Remember this is for ingame purposes for the most part. (No Ev's, Iv's, HP or Egg Moves)

Charizard
Special Sweeper @ Salac Berry
Timid
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Claw
- Sunny Day
- Substitute

Pidgeot
Physical Sweeper @ Choice Band
Jolly
- Feather Dance
- Aerial Ace
- Quick Attack
- Mirror Move

Jolteon
Special Sweeper @ Leftovers
Modest
- Thunder
- Rain Dance
- Double Kick (For Rock and Steel types?)
- Agility

Slowbro
Tank @ Leftovers
Bold
- Withdraw
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Psychic

Lapras
Annoyer @ Leftovers
Bold
- Confuse Ray
- Toxic
- Rest
- Ice Beam

Tauros
Physical Sweeper @ Leftovers
Adamant
- Earthquake
- Strength
- Pursuit (For ghosts)
- Rest

I know, I have four pokemon that are weak to electricity...but I really don't want to get rid of either Slowbro (who can take the attacks with good sp. def anyway) or Lapras. Pidgeot is removable but I don't know what else would fit in here...I guess a ground or fighting. I'm open to suggestions.

 

[dude_dude]

I don't know much about this sort of thing, but I've been here long enough to know you should replace Pidgeot with Dodrio. I'm sorry I can't suggest a moveset for it though.

 

[shanecdavis]

Even though it is in-game, you can still start out with good IVs, nature, and a good moveset involving egg moves. The only limitation is your unwillingness to do so. Fixes in bold:

This is what I'm planning for my first run on Leaf Green...yeah, I'm pretty bad at doing this... Remember this is for ingame purposes for the most part. (No Ev's, Iv's, HP or Egg Moves)

Charizard
Special Sweeper @ Petaya Berry
Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Claw
- Wing Attack/Aerial Ace
- Substitute

Charizard's special movepool is too limited to be an effective special sweeper. This should be Alakazam or Gengar instead, unless you are one who MUST have Charizard on their team. It is better used as a physical sweeper. You also don't need Salac in-game. Charizard is fast enough. Petaya would make more sense, which would remove the need for Sunny Day that ruins your Water-types. WA/AA for STAB.

Dodrio
Physical Sweeper @ Choice Band
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Quick Attack
- Return
- Steel Wing

NEVER use non-attacking moves with CB. You will either never use that move or you will have to switch out prematurely. Also, NEVER use Mirror Move at all, let alone with CB. Not only could you MM a non-attacking move, but also a move that was ineffective. I also fixed the Poke and the moveset. Dodrio is superior to Pidgeot in every way that matters. It is faster, stronger, and has a better attacking move.

Jolteon
Special Sweeper @ Leftovers
Modest
- Thunderbolt
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Agility

Jolteon is better used as the lead and then BP to another Poke as needed. Electabuzz is a more effective sweeper as its movepool is much larger. Avoid having Sunny Day and Rain Dance on the same team.

Slowbro
Tank @ Leftovers/Chesto Berry
Bold
- Rest
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Psychic

Tanks need Rest. You can also get away with Chesto Berry in-game.

Lapras
Annoyer @ Leftovers
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Confuse Ray/Toxic/Sing
- Thunderbolt/Surf
- Rest
- Ice Beam

Choose CR or Toxic, not both. Having both Slowbro and Lapras is a bit redundant. A physical wall would do better here. Umbreon.

Tauros
Physical Sweeper @ Leftovers
Adamant
- Earthquake
- Return
- Iron Tail
- Rest

Tauros suffers from a limited movepool in-game, but is still usable. Its base SAtk is so pathetic that special moves should not be used. Use Iron Tail instead. Return > Strength.

I know, I have four pokemon that are weak to electricity...but I really don't want to get rid of either Slowbro (who can take the attacks with good sp. def anyway) or Lapras. Pidgeot is removable but I don't know what else would fit in here...I guess a ground or fighting. I'm open to suggestions.

Too many sharing the same weakness and too much redundancy. Get rid of Charizard and either Slowbro or Lapras. Personally, I would go with Heracross over Tauros too, which can destroy teams with an SubAgility BP from Jolteon.

 

[.Bastion]

Even though it is in-game, you can still start out with good IVs, nature, and a good moveset involving egg moves. The only limitation is your unwillingness to do so. Fixes in bold:

You're right. I've just been too lazy to deal with all of that. It is cutting the potential of my team, so if you're willing to help me on my team (with IV's and EV's. I get the rest), I'm willing to make it the best that I can. So I revised my team based on what you said.

Charizard
Special / Mixed? @ Petaya Berry
Mild
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Claw
- Aerial Ace
- Substitute

Well I would really like having Charizard on my team, and I think this could make it work fairly well.

Dodrio
Physical Sweeper @ Choice Band
Adamant
- Drill Peck
- Quick Attack
- Return
- Steel Wing

Ok, I'll ditch Pidgeot for Dodrio. I thought maybe with more balance along the defensive side it would be better, but I see how higher speed and attack is much better for a sweeper.

Gengar
Special Sweeper @ Leftovers
Timid or Modest
- Will-O-Wisp
- Thunderbolt
- Psychic
- Shadowball? (for STAB)

I ditched Joleton for Gengar due to Gengar being a great Special Sweeper. I just wasn't sure with the last move.

Slowbro
Tank @ Chesto Berry
Bold
- Rest
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Psychic

Kept the same...

Umbreon
Annoyer / Baton Passer @ Leftovers
Bold
- Mean Look
- Baton Pass
- Toxic
- Wish

I ditched Lapras for Umbreon like you said...I went ahead and made a set so it's fixable if I messed up somewhere. I have a question though...where do I get baton pass from?

Tauros
Physical Sweeper @ Leftovers
Adamant
- Earthquake
- Return
- Iron Tail
- Rest

I'll keep this for pre elite four. Afterwards I'll switch over to Heracross.

Hopefully I did better this time. Rate again if I messed up.

 

[Alter Ego]

You're right. I've just been too lazy to deal with all of that. It is cutting the potential of my team, so if you're willing to help me on my team (with IV's and EV's. I get the rest), I'm willing to make it the best that I can. So I revised my team based on what you said.

Charizard
Special / Mixed? @ Petaya Berry
Mild
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Claw
- Aerial Ace
- Substitute

Well I would really like having Charizard on my team, and I think this could make it work fairly well.

Not really...STAB Aerial Ace alone isn't really enough to warrant splitting your attacks, either go full special or physical with Fire Blast support. The set Shane suggested is good, although I believe he forgot Earthquake (Unless I missed something).

Dodrio
Physical Sweeper @ Choice Band
Adamant
- Drill Peck
- Quick Attack
- Return
- Steel Wing

Ok, I'll ditch Pidgeot for Dodrio. I thought maybe with more balance along the defensive side it would be better, but I see how higher speed and attack is much better for a sweeper.

CB Dodrio, W00T! Nothing to complain about this set. Just remember that Quick Attack needs breeding. I prefer Jolly on this, but that's a matter of taste.

Gengar
Special Sweeper @ Leftovers
Timid or Modest
- Will-O-Wisp
- Thunderbolt
- Psychic/Ice Punch/Fire Punch
- Shadowball? (for STAB) Giga Drain/Substitute

I ditched Joleton for Gengar due to Gengar being a great Special Sweeper. I just wasn't sure with the last move.

Nyah, don't bother with Shadow Ball. Gengar's attack is too weak to benefit from it even with STAB (Yes, despite common belief SB is physical), Giga Drain will serve you better, as will sub. The elemental punches are great (if you've got a way to get them from Emerald) but Psychic is okay if you can't. Will-O-Wisp needs an Emerald breeder, though, so Hypnosis and Destiny Bond are alternatives for that slot. A +Speed nature is also preferable on Gar since it really doesn't take hits well, it usually KOs what it needs to KO anyway.

Slowbro
Tank @ Chesto Berry/Leftovers
Bold
- Rest
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Psychic

Kept the same...

Cool, although Ice Beam is an alternative over Psychic if you want it to hit dragons and whatnot. Those lefties will do a lot more good here than on Tauros, btw.

Umbreon
Annoyer / Baton Passer @ Leftovers
Bold
- Mean Look
- Baton Pass
- Toxic
- Wish

I ditched Lapras for Umbreon like you said...I went ahead and made a set so it's fixable if I messed up somewhere. I have a question though...where do I get baton pass from?

Baton Pass is a level up move for Eevee (You get it at level 36), so just be patient and you'll get it. This is more of a staller and trapper than annoyer, though. Which is good, since annoyers suck. ^^

Tauros
Physical Sweeper @ Leftovers/Choice Band/Chesto Berry
Adamant
- Earthquake
- Return
- Iron Tail
- Rest/Fire Blast/Rock Tomb

I'll keep this for pre elite four. Afterwards I'll switch over to Heracross.

Ehh...Tauros really can't take those hits, you know. You could either try to replace Rest with another damaging move (Yes, I know the selection sucks) or put that Chesto here instead.

Hopefully I did better this time. Rate again if I messed up.

It looks like you've got the right idea in general, just remember to consider whether some decisions (Such as AA on an otherwise purely special attacking Charizard or Shadow Ball on Gengar) will really help you enough to warrant the slot. It should become pretty obvious once you look a bit closer. ^^

 

[.Bastion]

Thanks for all that Alter Ego. ^^

The only problem I have now is getting some of the moves that are on Emerald and getting Umbreon. I just got the National Dex on Emerald but I think I need it on LG as well to link over right?

 

[aragornbird]

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Yeah, and also Eevee can't evolve into Umbreon in LG due to no clock.

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[n3croart]

Your team is good but it may need further improvements.

 

[Synchronize]

I've tried to be lenient with this, but I'm up for Lugialord being temp'd for useless posts.

 

[.Bastion]

Due to the DS not having trading capabilities and it being my only system, my options have been severely cut. I had to fix up some things I originally had planned. So help is greatly appreciated.

Charizard Lv.36
Timid @ Nothing Yet
- Wing Attack
- Flamethrower
- Metal Claw
- Scary Face

This is fine, I'm still aiming towards the originally planned moveset.

Dodrio Lv.31
Jolly @ ______
- Tri Attack
- Aerial Ace
- Fly
- Pursuit

Same situation as Charizard

Eevee Lv. 34
Bold @ _______
- Bite
- Quick Attack
- Sand Attack
- Attract

This was one of the things I had to change. I originally had Umbreon planned but seeing as how I can't trade it over Vaporeon was my next and only good option with natures since it's somewhat defensive. So this set I've changed to fit for Vaporeon

Vaporeon
Bold @ Leftovers
- Acid Armor
- Baton Pass
- Toxic
- Surf

Rate please.

Marowak
I need a set for Marowak. He's intended to be a wall with his good defences. If this isn't good you can suggest something else in it's place.

Chansey Lv. 30
Hardy @ ____
- Refresh
- Softboiled
- Doubleslap (Going to be replaced with Ice Beam ASAP)
- Minimize (I was thinking about replacing this with Counter since Chansey/Blissy has such bad defense and will take alot of damage, couldn't it do loads more in return?)
I know it's a bad nature, but these things are really hard to catch X_x. It could've been worse I guess.

Dragonair Lv. 30
Mild @ _____
- Slam
- Dragon Rage
- Thunder Wave
- Twister

I took out Slowbro since I didn't want to water types on my team and put in Dragonite. This needs a set. Once again Nature wasn't too great but I wasn't getting anything better...

I really need to get out of this slump by making sure I'm heading in the right direction.

 

[shanecdavis]

Due to the DS not having trading capabilities and it being my only system, my options have been severely cut. I had to fix up some things I originally had planned. So help is greatly appreciated.

Charizard Lv.36
Timid @ Nothing Yet
- Wing Attack
- Flamethrower
- Metal Claw
- Scary Face

This is fine, I'm still aiming towards the originally planned moveset.

I still don't like Charizard here, but it is your team. Just know that by adding Dragonite, you just tripled your weakness to Ice moves. Too many similar types with similar weaknesses. You can still probably pull it off in-game, against the crappy AI, but I HIGHLY advise against it. Dragonite >>>>>>> Dodrio > Charizard.

Dodrio Lv.31
Jolly @ ______
- Tri Attack/Steel Wing
- Drill Peck
- Quick Attack
- Return

Same situation as Charizard

As long as you are working towards this moveset, you are okay. Wasting AA on a Poke that learns the best Flying move in the game (Drill Peck - Lv47) is sad to see though. What you should do is breed a male and female Dodrio until both know DP, and then breed them together for a baby Doduo that will be born knowing it. This whole moveset can be learned in-game. TA can be fun, especially since you won't have the benefit of a CB.

Eevee Lv. 34
Bold @ _______
- Bite
- Quick Attack
- Sand Attack
- Attract

This was one of the things I had to change. I originally had Umbreon planned but seeing as how I can't trade it over Vaporeon was my next and only good option with natures since it's somewhat defensive. So this set I've changed to fit for Vaporeon

Vaporeon
Bold @ Leftovers
- Wish
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Surf

Rate please.

Good choice with Vaporeon, but the best set is the Wishpasser, imo. You get wish to Eevee by breeding male Togetic that knows Wish (Lv31) with female Pikachu, then breed male Pikachu (evolving Pichu through Happiness, a PITA but very worth it) with female Eevee. Substitute is a great thing to pass. Another option is turning Vaporeon into a wall, replacing BP with Toxic or Ice Beam and maybe even Sub with Protect. Protect + Wish acts like Recover.

Marowak
I need a set for Marowak. He's intended to be a wall with his good defences. If this isn't good you can suggest something else in it's place.

Sorry, but Marowak is FAR from being an effective wall. Even though its defenses appear strong, being a Ground-type kills it. Marowak is supposed to be a wickedly strong physical attacker, but only if you have the Thick Club. If you don't, I suggest something else. Skarmory, Forretress, or Cloyster are more effective walls.

Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Toxic/Thunder
- Softboiled
- Counter/Thunder Wave/Seismic Toss
- Ice Beam

I know it's a bad nature, but these things are really hard to catch X_x. It could've been worse I guess.

That is why you breed. Blissey MUST be Bold. With a Bold nature, and good Def EV training, Blissey can handle a few physical attacks due to its enormous base HP. That also allows Counter to be used. TW is a disabler and Seismic Toss is more effectively in competitive play with a Lv100 Blissey that can deal a consistent 100 point damage attack. Aromatherapy or Heal Bell can only be bred through RSE Pokes, so that is out. Toxic can be used instead. You can even use Thunder, but with move I HIGHLY suggest Serene Grace, so you can abuse the effect percentages of both Thunder and Ice Beam. Not extremely effective, but fun, and this is in-game afterall.

Dragonite @ Leftovers
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Aerial Ace
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Thunderbolt/Ice Beam

I took out Slowbro since I didn't want to water types on my team and put in Dragonite. This needs a set. Once again Nature wasn't too great but I wasn't getting anything better...

Since you have to breed for a better nature anway, might as well breed a female with a male Horsea/Gyarados that knows Dragon Dance (Lv50) to make the best moveset for Dragonite. This thing is a complete terror with a DD under its belt, and has the base SAtk to hit hard with either TB or IB.

I really need to get out of this slump by making sure I'm heading in the right direction.

Looking over this team again, there are a few keepers to build your team around - Vaporeon, Blissey, Dodrio, and Dragonite. You have a utility Poke, a special wall, and two physical sweepers. What you need is a strong defensive wall (suggestions above) and a better special sweeper - Starmie, Jynx, Kadabra, Haunter, etc. Not being able to trade Kadabra or Haunter really hurts you though. Good luck.Since you have to breed for a better nature anway, might as well breed a female with a male Horsea/Gyarados that knows Dragon Dance (Lv50) to make the best moveset for Dragonite. This thing is a complete terror with a DD under its belt, and has the base SAtk to hit hard with either TB or IB.[/B]

BTW - Just realizing that some of my options are egg moves that you won't enjoy until you are almost finished with the game, considering that the Daycare Center is on Four Island. Since you have no way to trade, I would avoid Egg moves. That said, your Vaporeon moveset is probably the best option. Dragonite should switch to Focus Punch/Ice Beam/Substitute/Thunderbolt. That is the second best Dragonite set that is still VERY effective, allowing it to sweep both physically and specially. Instead of QA on Dodrio, you can use both SW and TA.

 

[.Bastion]

Thanks for the advice Shanecdavis. I've made some changes I think will help greatly for my team.

Jynx
Special Sweeper
Jolly
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Ice Beam
- Lovely Kiss

I've finally given up on Charizard. I had to eliminate him because I shouldn't have that huge weakness to ice and I did need a sweeper and this one seemed to be the best option for me. It was a toss up between Modest and Jolly but I chose Jolly because it needs some more speed to kill faster and not take as much hits.

Dodrio
Physical Sweeper
Jolly
- Tri Attack
- Drill Peck
- Steel Wing
- Return

Did as you suggested. Looks good IMO.

Vaporeon
Utility
Bold
- Baton Pass
- Surf
- Toixic
- Acid Armor / Substitute

I wasn't too sure with the last slot but I was thinking to BP some defense to Jynx and just sweep away.

Blissey
Special Sponge
Bold
- Ice Beam
- Softboiled
- Counter
- Thunder

Suggested Set.

Dragonite
Subpuncher
Lonely
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam

I like this set...

Venusaur
Wall
Bold
- Leech Seed
- Protect
- Sludge Bomb
- Razor Leaf

Ok, I know this is kind of unexpected but out of the walls you suggested I can't get Skarmory or Cloyster on LG and Pineco comes a little too late, so this was what I could think of. It has pretty good defenses and comes with Leech Seed for healing...This may have screwed it up but I thought it may work.

 

[Alter Ego]

Thanks for the advice Shanecdavis. I've made some changes I think will help greatly for my team.

Jynx
Special Sweeper
Jolly Timid
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Ice Beam
- Lovely Kiss

I've finally given up on Charizard. I had to eliminate him because I shouldn't have that huge weakness to ice and I did need a sweeper and this one seemed to be the best option for me. It was a toss up between Modest and Jolly but I chose Jolly because it needs some more speed to kill faster and not take as much hits.

Please get your facts straight, Jolly reduces SAtk and it's certainly not something you want on your Jynx. The correct nature here would be Timid.

Dodrio
Physical Sweeper
Jolly
- Tri Attack Quick Attack/Sleep Talk
- Drill Peck
- Steel Wing
- Return

Did as you suggested. Looks good IMO.

Return and Tri Attack on the same set is pointless.

Vaporeon
Utility
Bold
- Baton Pass
- Surf
- Toixic Wish/Rest
- Acid Armor / Substitute

I wasn't too sure with the last slot but I was thinking to BP some defense to Jynx and just sweep away.

No healing make's vappy sad. ;_; With Vaporeon's high HP, subpassing is better than Acid Armor imo, it's not like Jynx needs that Defense (Or draws much benefit from it),

Blissey
Special Sponge
Bold
- Ice Beam
- Softboiled
- Counter
- Thunder

Suggested Set.

Dragonite
Subpuncher
Lonely
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam

I like this set...

Venusaur
Wall
Bold
- Leech Seed
- Protect Synthesis/Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Razor Leaf/Earthquake

Calls for Relaxed, really, either that or replacing Razor Leaf with EQ. Synthesis and Sleep Powder both do more good than Protect.

Ok, I know this is kind of unexpected but out of the walls you suggested I can't get Skarmory or Cloyster on LG and Pineco comes a little too late, so this was what I could think of. It has pretty good defenses and comes with Leech Seed for healing...This may have screwed it up but I thought it may work.

Venusaur isn't really the greatest physical wall out there, but W/E. If you want a tougher one, though, Slowbro is a very good call. For that one the set is:

Slowbro @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Surf
Ice Beam/Psychic
Calm Mind
Rest

Between CM and its high Defense, Slowbro can wall out virtually anything. Those special attacks hurt too. ^^

 

[.Bastion]

Oh I did get Jolly and Timid mixed up, sorry about that. I always do get them mixed up...-_-;

So even though I already have a water type, Slowbro is still ok to use?

 

[Alter Ego]

It's not an ideal choice from a type coverage perspective, but I don't think it will cause huge problems either since Slowbro is so good at taking hits. After a couple of CMs even Thunderbolts don't hurt that bad. Heracross could cause issues, but if it's ingame then that's not such a big deal. Dodrio handles it anyway.