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Silver Fang

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    • Seen Feb 14, 2013
    Here they are:)
    Salamence, Dragon Fang
    Intimidate
    Lax

    Draco Meteor
    Dragon Pulse
    Fly
    Crunch

    Espeon, ???
    synchronize
    quirky

    psychic
    shadow ball
    ???
    ???

    Tyranitar, Dread plate
    Sand Stream
    Adamant

    Stone Edge
    Earthquake
    Crunch
    Outrage

    Milotic, Mystic Water
    Marvel Scale
    Gentle

    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Aqua Tail
    Recover

    Metagross, mind plate
    Clear Body
    Docile

    Earthquake
    Meteor Mash
    Hammer Arm
    Psychic

    Porygon Z, None
    Adamant
    Download

    Thunderbolt
    Tri Attack
    Signal Beam
    Recover

    Still trying to decide on the move for espeon

    Please Help:D

    P.S I am now in the process of EV train my pokemon.
     
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    EV Training is necessary for success. Please learn how to do it or you'll never win a competitive battle.
     
    Blueberry said:
    EV Training is necessary for success. Please learn how to do it or you'll never win a competitive battle.
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    would you mind helping me learn how then, or give me a link if there is a thread for it
     
    OK, get rid of any Plates or things like Mystic Water and such. They hardly give a bonus, your better off with things like Life Orb, Expert Belt and so on.

    Drop Aqua Tail off of Milotic as he is inadept at physical moves. And try getting a Milotic with the Bold nature (decreases Attack for Defense).

    For Porygon-Z get one with Timid nature (decreases Attack for Speed) as Adamant just hampers its power.

    As for Glaceon get rid of Ice Fang as he is inadept at physical moves.

    As for Salamence, he is more adept at Physical moves but having Draco Meteor can get some Physical walls as people would often expect him to know only Physical attacks (AFAIK).
     
    I'm not going to comment on this team. I'm just not going to. You need to learn ev training, and you need to get better items, and tyranitar = outrage? since when can tyranitar learn outrage? anyone tell me? because i don't think it learns it.
     
    SmallBait said:
    I'm not going to comment on this team. I'm just not going to. You need to learn ev training, and you need to get better items, and tyranitar = outrage? since when can tyranitar learn outrage? anyone tell me? because i don't think it learns it.
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    He learns it as an egg move. In addition he could learn it since Generation II.
     
    Espreon said:
    As for Salamence, he is more adept at Physical moves but having Draco Meteor can get some Physical walls as people would often expect him to know only Physical attacks (AFAIK).
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    Actually, SpecsMence is fairly common, I hear.

    Salamence @ Choice Specs
    Modest
    252 Spd/ 252 SAtk/ 6 HP
    - Draco Meteor
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Flamethrower
    - Hydro Pump

    Switch in, Draco Meteor, get out. Don't forget, Mence has 110 base SAtk- not bad at all.

    EDIT: Yep, Tar learns Outrage. I remember when breeding for my DDTar, all of the offspring knew Dragon Dance and Outrage.
     
    What is Tar? All these acronyms, I forgot what Tar stands for.
     
    Shining Star said:
    Here they are:)
    Salamence, Life Orb
    Intimidate
    Lax
    Evs: Spd 252, Att 252, Hp 6

    Dragon Claw
    Dragon Dance/Earthquake
    Fire Blast
    Of your choice.

    This one is sad in many ways.
    Glaceon, Something besides this.
    Snow Cloak
    Modest
    I don't know what stats glaceon specializes in, so i won't say any evs.

    Blizzard
    Ice Fang
    ???
    ???

    I don't know anything about glaceon except it's type basically.
    Tyranitar, Leftovers
    Sand Stream
    Adamant
    Evs: Attack 252, Hp 252, Spd 6

    Stone Edge
    Earthquake
    Crunch
    Outrage

    Outrage? How did you teach it that? Anyway, this one is alright.
    Milotic, Don't ever do mystic water.
    Marvel Scale
    Gentle
    Evs: Def 252, Speed 252, Hp 6

    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Hypnosis
    Recover
    If you have surf, you don't need aqua tail.
    Metagross, Something else....
    Clear Body
    Docile

    Earthquake
    Meteor Mash
    Thunderpunch
    Explosion

    Docile nature just has to go.
    Porygon Z, Expert Belt, cmon give it an item.
    Adamant
    Download

    Thunderbolt
    Tri Attack
    Ice Beam/ Dark Pulse
    Recover

    It's alright i guess, but not that much of a help, but still, it's good.
    Still trying to decide on Glaceon

    Please Help:D

    You need to learn the concept of giving pokemon better items and giving EVERY pokemon that you use Evs. Don't worry, i had to learn the hard way, so your not the only one.

    P.S I do not EV train any of my pokemon.
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    So yes, i have explained what i mean. So sorry if you thought i was too harsh on you.
     
    Oh yeah. I went over all the Tars, but I was stuck on "Magmotar', haha.
     
    Outrage is terrible on Tyranitar by the way. Without the STAB, it's just a move asking for someone to come in and revenge kill you.
     
    oh so it can learn outrage.... hehe. anyway i've posted my thoughts about my team, and there they are.
     
    hm I think I'll go ev train em and change some of the items, but can you ev train someone at lv 100?

    And Also thanks to all of you:D

    P.S I got outrage on XD Gale of Darkness, the larvitar came with it.
     
    Shining Star said:
    Here they are:)
    Salamence, Choice Scarf
    Intimidate
    Naughty - 80 atk / 252 spd / 176 sp.atk

    Dragon Claw
    Draco Meteor
    Flamethrower
    Brick Break

    Glaceon @ Leftovers
    Snow Cloak
    Modest, 252 sp.atk / 252 hp / 4 spd

    Fake Tears
    Wish
    Ice Beam
    HP Fighting

    Tyranitar @ Life Orb / Blackglasses
    Sand Stream
    Jolly, 252 spd / 252 atk / 4 hp

    Stone Edge / Pursuit
    Earthquake
    Crunch
    Dragon Dance

    Milotic @ Leftovers
    Marvel Scale
    Bold, 252 hp / 228 def / 28 sp.atk

    Surf
    Ice Beam
    HP Electric
    Recover

    Metagross @ Life Orb
    Adamant, 252 atk / 200 spd / 56 hp

    Earthquake
    Meteor Mash
    Explosion
    Agility

    Porygon Z, @ Choice Specs
    Modest, 252 sp.atk / 252 spd / 4 hp
    Download

    Thunderbolt
    Tri Attack
    Ice Beam
    Dark Pulse

    Still trying to decide on Glaceon

    Please Help:D

    P.S I am now in the process of EV train my pokemon.
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    Weavile w/ Ice Shard, Ice Punch, Night Slash and Brick Break + Magnezone w / HP Fire, Thunderbolt and Magnet Rise DESTROYS your team. Maybe a Donphan or a Hippowdon would suit well. Regirock w/ 252 hp / 80 def / 176 sp.def, Careful, under Sand Stream, would stop cold that combination. Consider one of those three. Glaceon, even being UU, is overrated, he sucks at life. Replace him for one of those walls. MixApe >> PoryZ, he could stop Weavile and Magnezone cold after a Nasty Plot, but he wouldn't survive Magnezone's TBolt.
     
    Shining Star said:
    hm I think I'll go ev train em and change some of the items, but can you ev train someone at lv 100?
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    I think it's possible... but there's a lot more to it than just EV training. There's IVs, Natures, and certain Egg Moves.

    Even then, that doesn't guarantee a good team. Why? Because of what I just said: TEAM. Your Pokemon have to be able to work together and cover each other's weaknesses. Just throwing 6 favorites onto a team just doesn't cut it.
     
    airconditioning said:
    I think it's possible... but there's a lot more to it than just EV training. There's IVs, Natures, and certain Egg Moves.

    Even then, that doesn't guarantee a good team. Why? Because of what I just said: TEAM. Your Pokemon have to be able to work together and cover each other's weaknesses. Just throwing 6 favorites onto a team just doesn't cut it.
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    I know,I'm breeding to :D and ev training, and I carefully selected each one there not my favorites.
     
    Tyranitar @ Choice Band
    Trait: Sandstream
    EVs: 212 HP / 80 Atk / 216 SpD
    Careful Nature (+SpD, -SpA)
    - Crunch
    - Earthquake
    - Pursuit
    - Stone Edge.

    Tyranitar @ Leftovers / Life Orb
    Trait: Sandstream
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature (+Spe, -SpA)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Taunt
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge.

    Tyranitar @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sandstream
    EVs: 252 HP / 176 Atk / 80 SpA
    Quiet Nature (+SpA, -Spe)
    - Substitute
    - Focus Punch
    - Ice Beam
    - Crunch / Earthquake.

    Porygon-Z @ Leftovers
    Trait: Adaptibility
    EVs: 160 HP / 72 SpA / 40 Spe / 216 SpD
    Calm Nature (+SpD, -Atk)
    - Thunder Wave
    - Recover
    - Tri Attack
    - Thunderbolt / Ice Beam / Darkpulse.

    Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf / Specs
    Trait: Adaptibility
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Modest / Timid Nature
    - Tri Attack
    - Thunderbolt
    - Ice Beam
    - Dark Pulse.

    Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 160 HP / 120 SpA / 228 SpD
    Calm Nature (+SpD, -Atk)
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam / HP [ELECTRIC]

    Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 160 HP / 120 SpA / 228 SpD
    Calm Nature (+SpD, -Atk)
    - Rest
    - Hypnosis
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam. Shift the EVS from Special Defense to Defense if you want a physical walling Milo and give it Bold Nature.

    Salamence @ Choice Band
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature (+Spe, -SpA)
    - Earthquake
    - Dragon Claw
    - Crunch
    - Fire Fang.

    Salamence @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spe
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Draco Meteor
    - Flamethrower / Toxic
    - Toxic / Wish
    - Roost.

    Salamence @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Modest Nature (+SpA, -Atk)
    - Draco Meteor
    - Hydro Pump / HP [GRASS]
    - Flamethrower
    - Dragon Pulse.

    Salamence @ Leftovers / Life Orb
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 120 HP / 232 Atk / 148 Spe
    Adamant / Jolly Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Taunt
    - Stone Edge / Fire Fang. One great thing about DDMence is that you can away the EVs from Atk and Speed a tad bit.

    Metegross @ Choice Band
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 252 HP / 80 Atk / 176 Def
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA)
    - Meteor Mash
    - Earthquake
    - Bullet Punch
    - Pursuit / Stone Edge / Zen Headbutt.

    Metagross @ Leftovers / Life Orb
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 104 Spe / 204 HP / 80 Atk / 120 Def
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA)
    - Agility
    - Stealth Rock
    - Meteor Mash
    - Pursuit / Stone Edge / Earthquake. Inferior to the above set this gen.

    Metegross @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 104 Spe / 204 HP / 80 Atk / 120 Def
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA)
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge
    - Bullet Punch / Pursuit
    - Meteor Mash. Same thing basically, but with an instant speed boost.

    And my knowledge on Glaceon is sub-par.
     
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