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Please Help with my team

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    This team is only going to be used against my friends but i really want to give them a hard time. Most of these are still preliminary so any criticism will help.

    Weezing @Black Sludge
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SDef
    Bold Nature
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Thunderbolt
    -Haze
    -Pain Split

    Starmie @Leftovers
    EVs: 236 HP / 56 SAtk / 216 Spd
    Timid Nature
    Ability: Natural Cure
    -Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -Rapid Spin
    -Recover

    Dragonite @Leftovers/Life Orb
    EVs: 58 HP / 252 Atk / 200 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    -Outrage
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Blast
    -Dragon Dance


    Heracross @Choice Band/Choice Scarf
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    Ability: Guts
    -Megahorn
    -Close Combat
    -Stone Edge
    -Sword Dance


    Gallade @Leftovers/Life Orb/Expert Belt
    EVs: 228 HP / 252 Atk / 30 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    -Psycho Cut
    -Close Combat
    -Night Slash
    -Thunder Wave

    Breloom @Toxic Orb
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    Ability: Poison Heal
    -Spore
    -Focus Punch
    -Substitute

    -Seed Bomb/Mach Punch

    I think i have too many sweepers. Thanks for the help in advance.
     
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    Who is your lead Pokemon? I sure hope it's not Weezing, because it's a terrible lead. It gets chewed out by any special attacker, anything with a sleep move, anything with Taunt, and you don't even have Will-o-wisp so physical attackers won't have anything to fear.

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    Starmie: This guy is your only hope of killing or revenge-killing Garchomp. But you don't have enough SAtk to guarantee a OHKO. You need at least 269 SAtk for that.

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    Heracross: Why are you using Swords Dance on a Choice set? Pursuit please.

    lol, you have 3 Fighting types and 1 Poison. While Gallade takes neutral damage, you still have a 3x Psychic weakness right there meaning an Azelf will rip through this team easily. A Blissey, Cresselia, or Spiritomb can defeat it as well as giving you some good coverage against other special attackers.
    Gliscor, the bane of most Fighting types, can also be a nuisance and though you have Starmie, Gliscor will never stay in against it meaning you need a another way of disabling or crippling it. This is where Will-o-wisp on Gallade can be helpful.

    I like both Heracross and Breloom but I would never use them on the same team considering they share practically the same weaknesses. It's your call though. I have a soft spot for Breloom, who is quite fun to use and can really open up an opportunity for a teammate to sweep, but Scarf Heracross gives you revenge-killing abilities and also makes a good lead.


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    I also dont like the fact that you have no dedicated sp.sweepers, id drop one of your physical guys, namely a fighter who you have in overkill btw, and replace it with a special sweeper who doesnt have pretty much the same type coverage with its moves and weaknesses as those.. Starmie and Weezing as your only pokes with special attacks, besides dragonites weak fire blast for skarm and forry, isnt going to work...


    As for starmie 172 hp / 120 sp.att / 216 speed, i think guarantees a ohko on Chomp with Ice Beam.

    Aragorn pretty much said everything else.
     
    Meh. Starmie wants a LOT more Special Attack then that. :/

    I usually find Gallade good for double-status.

    Breloom wants Jolly, but I find that BOTH Spore AND Sub is redundant.

    Meh. T-Wave or WoW screws the respective variants, but WoW is a problem for both. Resttalk is usually better, or if you're good at predictions, and can use Sleep Talk only by switching it on a Hypnosis or something.

    Physical 'Nite wants FP instead of Fire Blast to at least do something.

    Fit WoW somewhere in there on Weezing. WAY too may Physical-Attackers on your team, replace one for a Special Wall, and Skarmory, who can blow away physical status uppers, so you won't have to use Haze. I think that works better. Just run Flamethrower over Haze to kill Hera, Weezing is a great counter to him.

    @ last comment, your right, but I stated that, and somebody else might have too, I think. Blissey can handle most things not named Specsluke, Gar, NPAzelf, etcetera.

    I have a set from PE2K to counter Specsluke: 252 DEF / 80 SpA / 176 SDEF running Flamethrower / Grass Knot / Softboiled / T-Wave. Takes around 40% or so, allowing Blissey to Thunder Wave, then Softboiled up. Or the other around, can't remember. ._.

    But yeah, you have WAY too many Fighting pokes as well, which are the overload of Sweepers who you don't need. :P Just use one of them, and get a different type physical sweeper, who doesn't have similar coverage.
     
    Spore and Sub isn't redundant considering Sleep Absorbers love to switch in on Breloom and tick it off, not to mention Sleep Clause. You sub up while they switch in and laugh while they eat Focus Punch or Seed Bomb. If there's something designed to break subs, you can put them asleep. That makes Breloom pretty annoying, while still maintaining its awesome power.

    You can also run Choice Band Breloom, which absolutely nobody expects. CB Thunderpunch means Skarmory isn't the safest switch anymore and Seed Bomb (combined with Thunderpunch) will waste Bulky Waters and Bulky Grounds. Meanwhile, Focus Punch will just HAMMER switch-ins unless they're ghosts, and we have Seed Bomb or stone Edge for that.
     
    Spore and Sub isn't redundant considering Sleep Absorbers love to switch in on Breloom and tick it off, not to mention Sleep Clause.

    Meh. I was kinda thinking in the first place it wasn't redundant. Thanks for the correctment.
     
    Thanks I am willing to switch hera or/and dragonite with some kind of wall or special sweeper i just cant think of any. I guess i could use skar as a spiker too? maybe?
     
    Thanks I am willing to switch hera or/and dragonite with some kind of wall or special sweeper i just cant think of any. I guess i could use skar as a spiker too? maybe?

    Yeah, that's be great. Consider Dusknoir to block Rapid Spin if you're using Spikes. Meh. A Special wall would be great as you don't currently have one.
     
    Yah, i was thinking skar with dusknoir and putting alot of ev's into spdef on dusk because he has pretty rounded def and spdef, thus making him my spwall. But i don't know if that will work well.
    So I am taking out hera and Dragonite for skar and dusknoir but who should i lead with?
    Skar so I can lay down spikes?
     
    No don't lead with Skarm, once again special attackers will eat you and gyara will taunt you, set up and destroy you.

    Starmie is still your best lead option at the moment which still isn't a great lead with that set.

    If you want Starmie to lead make it a ScarfStar, very surprising and works well for a lead. Out speeds Weavile and destroys it (unless it's sashed) and can out speed many other leads as well.
     
    Man NEVER use Weezing as a Lead, and plz no Toxic moves... They just SUCK
    You have: Dragonite,Breloom,Heracross and Gallade for physical sweeping, remove at least 2 and put 1 Special Sweeper more and a Special Wall...

    I really like Gengar, SpecsGar for hit HARD here... In fact a SpecsGar will 6-0 you with Shadow Ball... If my mind don't fail me....

    Blyss-Weezing It's a really good combo you should try here, and suport it with something that can take Garchomp, Cresselia will do that for you in most of situations. Also you can Revenge kill with a Weavile, if you wanna try it...
     
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