Please make my team better. I'm pretty much screwed.

[Arsibiyez]

This will be the team in my Sapphire version. All those who have read my posts before already know that I am not (yet) able to trade to other versions. So, here's what I've planned so far. All 6.



Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance
- Flamethrower
- Return

Physical sweeper. I would've gone for Adamant, but that would have cut the power of both FT and DC. I settled for Brave since DD helps the speed easily.



Xatu (M) @ BrightPowder
Trait: Synchronize
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Confuse Ray
- Night Shade
- Psychic
- Wish

I hate this. But it's the best wishmaker I can use. I thought about Girafarig, but its base stats were all lower than Xatu's, save for attack and defense. [sigh...]



Chimecho (M) @ BrightPowder
Trait: Levitate
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Dream Eater
- Heal Bell
- Yawn

Cleric. Bad moves. Nothing much I can do about it now, though. I'll change the Yawn + CM + Dream Eater thing if someone can suggest something better.



Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Spikes
- Steel Wing
- Toxic

SpikeSkarm. But I don't have my Roar TM anymore (because... SOMEONE sold it without my permission), and I can only breed for Whirlwind with the Pidgey chain, which I cannot obtain without trading. I'm basically trying to make my IRL opponent switch out to reset the Toxic damage. It's a bad strategy, but I'm not really battling pros here.



Breloom (M) @ Shell Bell
Trait: Effect Spore
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Giga Drain
- Leech Seed
- Spore

The usual. Spore, Seed, Punch. I went for Brave so that Spore can go second, which I intend. I hate it when my opponent's sleep count is only one turn, which seems to happen more than I thought it would.



Lanturn (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Special sweeper, obviously. I haven't changed it since my previous rate request. The same someone sold my Rest TM. I'd hate to have to breed it again... It's the only memeber of my team so far that's already lv.100.



This was the best I could do with my limited Sapphire-only range. It's lacking something that I can't seem to detect... It FEELS versatile and effective, but I'm not sure of it. Help. Please. Thanks in advance to everyone.



P.S. Where I live, Pokemon players aren't exactly link-happy. So if anyone's going to suggest outside the Sapphire cart, let's just say that it might be a while before I start asking for rates again. Another thing: I've got EQ on my Aggron, and I'm wondering, onto what Pokemon can I breed it? I think that's what my team lacks... and EQer. Any info on this would be great. Thanks... again... in advance.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

I am going to move this to where it really belongs.

MOVED

 

[[Phantom Upheaval]]

This will be the team in my Sapphire version. All those who have read my posts before already know that I am not (yet) able to trade to other versions. So, here's what I've planned so far. All 6.



Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Rock Slide
- Dragon Dance
- Fire Blast
- Earthquake

Physical sweeper. I would've gone for Adamant, but that would have cut the power of both FT and DC. I settled for Brave since DD helps the speed easily.

IMO, Salamence is better off with Adamant, and you don't really need Dragon Claw.
Fire Blast to get rid of Skarmory, he should do fine with Rock Slide.

Xatu (M) @ BrightPowder
Trait: Synchronize
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Confuse Ray
- Night Shade
- Psychic
- Wish

I hate this. But it's the best wishmaker I can use. I thought about Girafarig, but its base stats were all lower than Xatu's, save for attack and defense. [sigh...]

You probably won't be using Psychic much, go for speed so it can confuse enemy first.

Chimecho (M) @ BrightPowder
Trait: Levitate
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Dream Eater
- Heal Bell
- Yawn

Cleric. Bad moves. Nothing much I can do about it now, though. I'll change the Yawn + CM + Dream Eater thing if someone can suggest something better.

If you're playing against human, replace Dream Eater with Psychic.
More speed is better, btw.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Spikes
- Steel Wing
- Toxic

SpikeSkarm. But I don't have my Roar TM anymore (because... SOMEONE sold it without my permission), and I can only breed for Whirlwind with the Pidgey chain, which I cannot obtain without trading. I'm basically trying to make my IRL opponent switch out to reset the Toxic damage. It's a bad strategy, but I'm not really battling pros here.

It's good, too bad you don't have TM05 anymore.

Breloom (M) @ Shell Bell
Trait: Effect Spore
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Giga Drain
- Leech Seed
- Spore

The usual. Spore, Seed, Punch. I went for Brave so that Spore can go second, which I intend. I hate it when my opponent's sleep count is only one turn, which seems to happen more than I thought it would.

If you can get Substitute somehow, replace Giga Drain with it.
Adamant, less speed will really screw you up in battle.

Lanturn (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Special sweeper, obviously. I haven't changed it since my previous rate request. The same someone sold my Rest TM. I'd hate to have to breed it again... It's the only memeber of my team so far that's already lv.100.

Good.

This was the best I could do with my limited Sapphire-only range. It's lacking something that I can't seem to detect... It FEELS versatile and effective, but I'm not sure of it. Help. Please. Thanks in advance to everyone.



P.S. Where I live, Pokemon players aren't exactly link-happy. So if anyone's going to suggest outside the Sapphire cart, let's just say that it might be a while before I start asking for rates again. Another thing: I've got EQ on my Aggron, and I'm wondering, onto what Pokemon can I breed it? I think that's what my team lacks... and EQer. Any info on this would be great. Thanks... again... in advance.

I don't know if I help you much, but yeah.
Use TM26 on Salamence if you haven't already, it's great as EQer.

 

[shanecdavis]

This will be the team in my Sapphire version. All those who have read my posts before already know that I am not (yet) able to trade to other versions. So, here's what I've planned so far. All 6.



Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Dragon Claw
- Flamethrower
- Crunch
- Hydro Pump

Physical sweeper. I would've gone for Adamant, but that would have cut the power of both FT and DC. I settled for Brave since DD helps the speed easily.

This isn't a physical sweeper when its only physical move is Return. Since you cannot give it Earthquake (a sad shame) and don't have access to Emerald, you are better off going with Elemence. DC and FT do at least neutral damage on all Pokes, HP and Crunch are just because they do good damage. BTW - Dragon Dance only increases Atk and Spd, not SAtk.

Xatu (M) @ BrightPowder
Trait: Synchronize
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Confuse Ray
- Night Shade
- Psychic
- Wish

I hate this. But it's the best wishmaker I can use. I thought about Girafarig, but its base stats were all lower than Xatu's, save for attack and defense. [sigh...]

Vaporeon is a great Wishpasser. You have two options with it. You can either make it into a wall, or you can abuse Baton Pass. Either way, you will like this Poke much more than Xatu.

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Baton Pass/Ice Beam
- Substitute/Protect
- Surf
- Wish

Chimecho (M) @ BrightPowder
Trait: Levitate
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Dream Eater
- Heal Bell
- Yawn

Cleric. Bad moves. Nothing much I can do about it now, though. I'll change the Yawn + CM + Dream Eater thing if someone can suggest something better.

I would suggest Vileplume over Chimecho, if your interest is only in a decent cleric. It has good defenses and a good SAtk too.

Vileplume @ Leftovers
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) / Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Moonlight
- Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb/Razor Leaf

The nature depends on the last slot, whether you want a special or physical attack.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Spikes
- Rest
- Toxic/Sleep Talk

SpikeSkarm. But I don't have my Roar TM anymore (because... SOMEONE sold it without my permission), and I can only breed for Whirlwind with the Pidgey chain, which I cannot obtain without trading. I'm basically trying to make my IRL opponent switch out to reset the Toxic damage. It's a bad strategy, but I'm not really battling pros here.

Ouch. Sorry to hear about your Roar. I would suggest at least giving Skarm Rest to give it better staying power. Substitute is preferable, but due to your limitations, unobtainable. BTW, you can breed Rest to Skarmory through Spheal (Lv37) then Wingull.

Breloom (M) @ Shell Bell
Trait: Effect Spore
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Giga Drain
- Leech Seed
- Spore

The usual. Spore, Seed, Punch. I went for Brave so that Spore can go second, which I intend. I hate it when my opponent's sleep count is only one turn, which seems to happen more than I thought it would.

That is still not worth it. Having that extra speed is more valuable. Against the Early Birders (how many are you seriously coming up against?), you Spore/Seed/Spore/Punch. Substitute fixes your problem, but alas it is still unobtainable.

Lanturn (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Special sweeper, obviously. I haven't changed it since my previous rate request. The same someone sold my Rest TM. I'd hate to have to breed it again... It's the only memeber of my team so far that's already lv.100.

Underrated Poke.

This was the best I could do with my limited Sapphire-only range. It's lacking something that I can't seem to detect... It FEELS versatile and effective, but I'm not sure of it. Help. Please. Thanks in advance to everyone.



P.S. Where I live, Pokemon players aren't exactly link-happy. So if anyone's going to suggest outside the Sapphire cart, let's just say that it might be a while before I start asking for rates again. Another thing: I've got EQ on my Aggron, and I'm wondering, onto what Pokemon can I breed it? I think that's what my team lacks... and EQer. Any info on this would be great. Thanks... again... in advance.

Since Salamence is relegated to special sweeper duty, your team is missing a quality physical sweeper. I would switch out Breloom for Heracross. While you cannot make Stalkercross (the greatest Heracross set), you can still make a terror.

Heracross @ Leftovers
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Endure/Facade
- Megahorn
- Reversal/Bulk Up

Reversal set is probably your best bet, but you could make a psuedo-Swords Dance set with Bulk Up. Either way, this thing can cause a lot of pain.

 

[m3t41]

IMO stalkercross is the best set. I <3 stalkercross.

Heracross @ lefties
Adamant Nature (idk either adamant or jolly)
- Sleep Talk
- Rest
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

 

[shanecdavis]

This will be the team in my Sapphire version. All those who have read my posts before already know that I am not (yet) able to trade to other versions. So, here's what I've planned so far. All 6.

Special sweeper, obviously. I haven't changed it since my previous rate request. The same someone sold my Rest TM. I'd hate to have to breed it again... It's the only memeber of my team so far that's already lv.100.

This was the best I could do with my limited Sapphire-only range. It's lacking something that I can't seem to detect... It FEELS versatile and effective, but I'm not sure of it. Help. Please. Thanks in advance to everyone.

TG cannot get Stalkercross, which is why I suggested an alternative.

Where I live, Pokemon players aren't exactly link-happy. So if anyone's going to suggest outside the Sapphire cart, let's just say that it might be a while before I start asking for rates again. Another thing: I've got EQ on my Aggron, and I'm wondering, onto what Pokemon can I breed it? I think that's what my team lacks... and EQer. Any info on this would be great. Thanks... again... in advance.

As for breeding your Earthquake through Aggron, it belongs to the Monster Egg group. Here is a list of Pokes that you can breed EQ to:

Cubone
Kangaskhan
Lickitung
Pupitar
Rhyhorn (Ground)
Slowpoke (Water 1)
Snorlax
Tropius (Plant)

Now, while these Pokes all belong to the Monster Egg group, there are a couple that belong to another group. Rhyhorn, Slowpoke, and Tropius.

Tropius cannot breed EQ to anything else though, so it is out.

Slowpoke, belonging to the Water 1 Egg group, can breed Earthquake to the following Pokes:

Corsola (Water 3)
Mantine
Relicanth (Water 2)
Spheal
Wooper (Ground)

Rhyhorn, belonging to the Ground Egg group, can breed Earthquake to the following Pokes:

Diglett
Dunsparce
Ekans (Dragon)
Girafarig
Miltank
Numel
Phanpy
Sandshrew
Seviper (Dragon)
Smeargle
Snubbull (Fairy)
Spheal
Stantler
Swinub
Tauros
Teddiursa
Wailmer (Water 2)
Wooper (Water 1)

Corsola cannot breed Earthquake to any Poke in the Water 3 Egg group.

Relicanth, who belongs to the Water 2 Egg group, can only breed Earthquake to Barboach and Wailmer.

Ekans and Seviper cannot breed Earthquake to any Poke in the Dragon Egg group.

Snubbull can only breed Earthquake to Chansey, who also belongs to the Fairy Egg group.

So there you have it. Those are all the Pokes that can learn Earthquake (some in breeding chains) from Aggron.

What I should also mention are the Pokes that learn Earthquake naturally. There are a few, but all belong in one of the aforementioned Egg groups withe the following exception:

Geodude (Mineral)

Since Geodude belongs to the Mineral group, it can breed Earthquake to the following Pokes:

Nosepass
Onix
Sudowoodo

Hope that helps.

 

[m3t41]

Whoops didn't see that part.

 

[Arsibiyez]

Yeah, I know that DD doesn't raise SAtk. I really just bred it on Mence since I didn't go for Adamant. With Brave, the speed shouldn't suffer so much in-battle because of it. Besides, it doesn't take too much buffing to outspeed the opponent. And Return causes OHKO once I reach that certain amount of buffs. (About 2 or 3 buffs does the trick, provided Mence survives those turns long enough, which it does, except in rare occassions when he faces an Ice Beaming foe first. I've experimented in Battle Tower.) But if ever I make an Elemence, I'll be sure to keep that moveset in mind.



Breloom's not so bad. Early Birds aren't my problem. It's just that sometimes, when Spore goes first, one turn of sleep is wasted before he can focus for the Punch. Then, after the focusing, the opponent wakes up, hurts Breloom, and breaks his focus. It really happens more often than it should...



Chimecho is my cleric right now. If I'll breed for a new Oddish for Vileplume, I guess I'll go with the Calm nature. Since I can't get Sludge Bomb without trading to Emerald, I'll settle for Razor Leaf. Dream Eater does nice damage, coupled with Chimecho's good SAtk and an extra CM, but I guess it is too conditional. I'm definitely trying that Vileplume.



I'd love to have that Vappy. But that means I have to trade for it. I have a Latias, but I don't want to use her because she has a Docile nature. So I have the choice of using Wigglytuff, Girafarig, and Spinda as an alternate wishmaker. But with all of them having lower base stats than Xatu's (except for Girafarig's Attack, Defense, and HP and Wiglytuff's HP), I'll stick to Xatu until I'm able to trade. (Unless someone can make a point that convinces me to use a different wishmaker within Sapphire, that is.)



And yes, shane. That extensive breeding list help a lot. I'll probably work on getting an EQing Girafarig so if I ever use it as a Wishmaker, I can give it a dual purpose.

Thanks a bil for that.



Thanks, too, Uberness and [Phantom Upheaval]. You're all helping me become a better player.



*Baton Passes Tail Glow to them all. SAtk is now maximized.*

 

[shanecdavis]

Yeah, I know that DD doesn't raise SAtk. I really just bred it on Mence since I didn't go for Adamant. With Brave, the speed shouldn't suffer so much in-battle because of it. Besides, it doesn't take too much buffing to outspeed the opponent. And Return causes OHKO once I reach that certain amount of buffs. (About 2 or 3 buffs does the trick, provided Mence survives those turns long enough, which it does, except in rare occassions when he faces an Ice Beaming foe first. I've experimented in Battle Tower.) But if ever I make an Elemence, I'll be sure to keep that moveset in mind.

If you are serious about a physical Salamence, you REALLY need to give it more than one physical move. Otherwise you are better off without it. Only having one attack, and a Normal move at that, doesn't help. What about Aerial Ace, Brick Break, or even Rock Tomb? That would at least make it worthwhile.

Breloom's not so bad. Early Birds aren't my problem. It's just that sometimes, when Spore goes first, one turn of sleep is wasted before he can focus for the Punch. Then, after the focusing, the opponent wakes up, hurts Breloom, and breaks his focus. It really happens more often than it should...

You must have some bad luck then. Regardless if Spore goes first or last, it is one turn. Typically you should get two rounds of sleep. One to Spore and then either Punch if you are confident for a OHKO, or Seed, so that you can set up again.

Chimecho is my cleric right now. If I'll breed for a new Oddish for Vileplume, I guess I'll go with the Calm nature. Since I can't get Sludge Bomb without trading to Emerald, I'll settle for Razor Leaf. Dream Eater does nice damage, coupled with Chimecho's good SAtk and an extra CM, but I guess it is too conditional. I'm definitely trying that Vileplume.

Breed Oddish with Tropius. It gets Razor Leaf at Lv11.

I'd love to have that Vappy. But that means I have to trade for it. I have a Latias, but I don't want to use her because she has a Docile nature. So I have the choice of using Wigglytuff, Girafarig, and Spinda as an alternate wishmaker. But with all of them having lower base stats than Xatu's (except for Girafarig's Attack, Defense, and HP and Wiglytuff's HP), I'll stick to Xatu until I'm able to trade. (Unless someone can make a point that convinces me to use a different wishmaker within Sapphire, that is.)

DOH! My apologies. I guess I should have figured you would be using it if you could. In lieu of Vaporeon, I would DEFINITELY use Wigglytuff or Girafarig, depending on if you want the BP element. If you don't Wigglytuff is what I suggest. High HP helps its mediocre defenses and allows it to Wish quite a few times.

And yes, shane. That extensive breeding list help a lot. I'll probably work on getting an EQing Girafarig so if I ever use it as a Wishmaker, I can give it a dual purpose.

Thanks a bil for that.



Thanks, too, Uberness and [Phantom Upheaval]. You're all helping me become a better player.



*Baton Passes Tail Glow to them all. SAtk is now maximized.*

I would save up a few bucks here and there until you are able to get Emerald. That Sapphire limitation is KILLING you.

 

[Dragon Tamer Ed]

This will be the team in my Sapphire version. All those who have read my posts before already know that I am not (yet) able to trade to other versions. So, here's what I've planned so far. All 6.


Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- EQ
- Dragon Dance
- Aerial Ace/HP Flying
- Return

Physical sweeper. I would've gone for Adamant, but that would have cut the power of both FT and DC. I settled for Brave since DD helps the speed easily.

No physical sweeper has only 1 physical attack. This here set is pure physical destruction. Aerial Ace is the primary Flying move to use here unless Hidden Power Flying would be stronger.

Xatu (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Synchronize
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Confuse Ray
- Night Shade
- Substitute
- Wish

I hate this. But it's the best wishmaker I can use. I thought about Girafarig, but its base stats were all lower than Xatu's, save for attack and defense. [sigh...]

Yeah, I think Speed is more what you need here. Also I think a good plan here would be Wish one turn and Substitute next turn. Maybe even down to salac level before wish kicks in...

Chimecho (M) @ BrightPowder
Trait: Levitate
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Dream Eater
- Heal Bell
- Yawn

Cleric. Bad moves. Nothing much I can do about it now, though. I'll change the Yawn + CM + Dream Eater thing if someone can suggest something better.

That is OK, but this would be better:

Vileplume@Brightpowder
Calm (+SDef, -Atk) or Careful (+SDef, -Satk)

- Aromatherapy
- Sludge Bomb or HP Grass/Razor Leaf
- Sleep Powder
- Moonlight

This would be a better cleric. As for the 2nd slot, whichever move you wanna put there depends on nature.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Spikes
- Steel Wing
- Toxic

SpikeSkarm. But I don't have my Roar TM anymore (because... SOMEONE sold it without my permission), and I can only breed for Whirlwind with the Pidgey chain, which I cannot obtain without trading. I'm basically trying to make my IRL opponent switch out to reset the Toxic damage. It's a bad strategy, but I'm not really battling pros here.

Skarmory has no real weaknesses to Physical attacks, so Def isn't that big an issue. He needs SDef to protect him against the likes of Fire and Electricity.

Breloom (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Spore

The usual. Spore, Seed, Punch. I went for Brave so that Spore can go second, which I intend. I hate it when my opponent's sleep count is only one turn, which seems to happen more than I thought it would.

Shell Bell recovers 1/8th of the damage its attack does that turn. It'd be a little better on Lanturn, as he looks like he'll do a bit more damage. Other than that, exchange GD for Substitute, then FP has a better chance of working.

Lanturn (M) @ Shell Bell
Trait: Volt Absorb
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Special sweeper, obviously. I haven't changed it since my previous rate request. The same someone sold my Rest TM. I'd hate to have to breed it again... It's the only memeber of my team so far that's already lv.100.

See above. Leftovers recover 1/16th of your pokemon's HP per turn, but Shell Bell would be much better on a sweeper like this.

 

[shanecdavis]

Keep in mind that TG doesn't have access to Substitute and has already used Earthquake.

BTW - Careful nature on Skarmory is pointless as it won't prevent it from being KO'd. Natures should be used to accentuate a Poke's strengths, not try to cover their weaknesses.

 

[m3t41]

Keep in mind that TG doesn't have access to Substitute and has already used Earthquake.

BTW - Careful nature on Skarmory is pointless as it won't prevent it from being KO'd. Natures should be used to accentuate a Poke's strengths, not try to cover their weaknesses.

shane is right. The best nature for skarm would probably be impish or relaxed.

 

[n3croart]

shane is right. The best nature for skarm would probably be impish or relaxed.

I'd go with Impish. Yea, go with Impish for skarm

 

[Lord Mike]

Um, if you want to get a +Defense Nature for Skarm, try lowering Special Attack maybe.</duh>

 

[n3croart]

Um, if you want to get a +Defense Nature for Skarm, try lowering Special Attack maybe.</duh>

Spikes
Roar
Earthquake
Aerial Ace / Steel Wing

 

[m3t41]

Um, if you want to get a +Defense Nature for Skarm, try lowering Special Attack maybe.</duh>

In case you haven't noticed, I suggested Impish nature which is a +Def, -SAtk. </duh>

 

[shanecdavis]

Spikes
Roar
Earthquake
Aerial Ace / Steel Wing

Skarmory cannot even learn Earthquake!

Please stop spamming up Tail_Glow's thread.

 

[Arsibiyez]

Okay, okay, okay... So maybe my Mence ISN'T a physical sweeper, but it still has sweeping potential. I see shane suggested Rock Tomb... I've actually thought about using that TM, but I hesitated due to its not-so-great power and unreliable accuracy. I've got a few TMs to spare.... The only ones I can imagine my good Physical Mence using are Rock Tomb, Iron Tail, and Facade. None of which helps my cause that effectively. Ouch. I never realized how actually near-hopeless I am before I looked through all that. ._.


So, who's got thoughts about GIrafarig vs. Wigglytuff as wishmakers? If I go for Girafarig, it would probably look like this:

Girafarig @ (I'm not sure. Probably Brightpowder or Leftovers, yet again.)
Calm/Mild Nature
- Earthquake
- Agility / Amnesia
- Baton Pass
- Wish

I've got no faith in this build. BP an Agi or Amnesia and Wish -- that's all I can imagine this Girafarig doing. What's better, Agility or Amnesia?


And if I go for Wigglytuff, it would probably look something like this:

Wigglytuff @ Leftovers
Probably Adamant Nature
- Body Slam / Hyper Voice
- Wish
- Light Screen
- Sing

This build gets me worried. I've never used a Wigglytuff since R/B/Y, so I don't know what moves to let it learn.

So... Girafarig, Wigglytuff, or the original Xatu?



And is the Chimecho really OK enough on its own? That is, if in case I decide to keep it. I'll probably have a cleric Vileplume stowed away. I didn't think anyone would see the Yawn + DE combo as "OK". Lol.

 

[Arsibiyez]

Uh-oh... I found a flaw in those two wishmaker options...

Girafarig can only learn Wish from breeding with a Skitty, Eevee, and Spinda, who can only learn it through a breeding chain that starts with Togetic -- a Pokemon I need to trade to obtain. [Sigh...]

I'm going to buy that Emerald cart someday...
Anyway...

So, my only actual options now are:
Xatu
Illumise
Latias


Illumise is much too weak, and I don't want to use any legendaries so Latias is out of the question (also since it has a lame Docile nature). Unless I can somehow make my Latias powerful enough to compensate for the bad nature, I'll be using Xatu for now.


If ever I use Latias, should it be like this?:

Latias @ (I really don't know)
Docile Nature (Ick...)
- Wish
- Psychic / Mist Ball
- Dragonbreath
- Light Screen


I've started saving up for that Emerald, just so y'all know... Phew..

 

[n3croart]

Please don't double post. Use the edit button.