Random Sticky Web team (improved, who needs megas when you have SHUCKLE?)

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    I do realize Sticky Web is not a very good strategy to use but oh well. Also, if you use LO Chomp, you can use this team not only in OU, but also in OU (no mega).

    DON'T FUCKLE (Shuckle) (M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 64 Def / 192 SpD
    Sassy Nature
    IVs: 0 Spe
    - Encore
    - Sticky Web
    - Stealth Rock
    - Toxic

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    Serperior (F) @ Miracle Seed
    Ability: Contrary
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Leaf Storm
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Giga Drain

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    Hoopa-Unbound @ Life Orb
    Ability: Magician
    EVs: 192 Atk / 64 SpA / 252 Spe
    Lonely Nature
    - Hyperspace Fury
    - Focus Blast
    - Gunk Shot
    - Substitute


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    Garchomp (M) @ Life Orb / Garchompite
    Ability: Rough Skin
    EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Naive Nature
    - Draco Meteor
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge
    - Fire Blast


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    Azumarill @ Choice Band
    Ability: Huge Power
    EVs: 168 HP / 252 Atk / 88 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Play Rough
    - Aqua Jet
    - Waterfall
    - Superpower

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    Bisharp (M) @ Black Glasses
    Ability: Defiant
    EVs: 252 Atk / 52 SpD / 204 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Sucker Punch
    - Knock Off
    - Iron Head

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    Instead of using Shuckle you might consider Galvantula. Shuckle is offensively pretty useless, and is only usable if you want to keep enduring hits (if you used Toxic on your opponent or burned him and he has no status effect healers or related stuff). Galvantula isn't considered as someone who should just use the Sticky Web, he can also be used for attacking...

    Galvantula @ Life Orb
    Ability: Compound Eyes
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP

    - Bug Buzz
    - Sticky Web
    - Thunder
    - Thunder Wave
     
    Instead of using Shuckle you might consider Galvantula. Shuckle is offensively pretty useless, and is only usable if you want to keep enduring hits (if you used Toxic on your opponent or burned him and he has no status effect healers or related stuff). Galvantula isn't considered as someone who should just use the Sticky Web, he can also be used for attacking...

    Galvantula @ Life Orb
    Ability: Compound Eyes
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP

    - Bug Buzz
    - Sticky Web
    - Thunder
    - Thunder Wave

    Nah, I don't like Galvantula. Failing to outspeed Lati@s and not being THAT powerful sucks, but most of all, it can't survive long enough in battle against defoggers/rapid spinners due to its lack of bulk
     
    i don't get the shuckle set at all. not sure why it's intentionally slow, but chestorest definitely isn't accomplishing anything. webs + rocks + encore are the only things you really need, the last slot can be a filler like knock or infestation or toxic or whatever. mental herb can let you bypass taunt. you don't want to run stealth rock on one of your sweepers when they want to be capitalizing on free turns and not setting up hazards. sub isn't doing anything for serp, run glare or giga drain.

    as for the team overall, it's disappointingly weak to pretty much everything that naturally checks sticky web. stuff like bisharp, sd exca in sand (balloon can bypass webs as well), np thundurus, boosting landorus-t, sd or bu+wisp talon, etc...are just terrible match-ups. a few outright 6-0 if they can squeeze in set-up opportunities (like talon on serp, for example). while sticky web is indeed a pretty iffy style, i would at least try to beat some of these mons lol. i would look to replace the gengar as it is accomplishing very little here and try to make the team a little more defensively sound.

    edit: a mega would be a fantastic choice since it's pretty much a waste not to run one. if not in the gar slot then you might as well run megachomp given that the speed drop is mitigated by webs.
     
    I run ChestoRest + Gar to eventually win matchups vs opposing Exca and Starmie (with help from Bisharp in the case of the latter).

    Yeah in practice Gengar seems the most replaceable member of the team, but it has helped against bulky Exca sets. And Starmie usually anti-leads my own Shuckle, and I have nothing to outspeed it with (bar Bisharp w/ sucker punch lol). ScarfGar could outspeed Starmie but it's just shit otherwise.

    Tbh I'd rather keep MegaChomp, but really I don't know what to replace Gengar with. There's Gourgeist-XL but that thing is a momentum killer, Cofag is too freaking slow, and uhhh that's about it. The point is that Starmie is ridiculously annoying to this team, since Hoopa-U has no reliable recovery, neither does Bisharp, and Serp is still slower.

    GF, MAKE A FUCKING GHOST-TYPE WITH >115 BASE SPEED!!!!!
     
    i don't get how starmie is annoying. what is it spinning against that doesn't immediately ohko it? if it anti-leads, you can encore its scald and go to serperior or just anticipate the anti-lead.

    as for exca, it bulky set isn't enough of a metagame presence to run a gar for, especially when the gengar set you're running doesn't match up very well w/ exca. you're running a very bad shuckle and a strange gengar to help deal with threats, only they don't help that much and aren't adding anything else. this is not efficient team building.
     
    if it spins it did its job. and then i become open to stuff such as mega lop (which can 6-0!!!!) or one of the threats you mentioned. gar + bisharp beats starmie. and btw offensive sets are much more common

    like, do you have any suggestions? btw i don't really feel like using clefable

    i'll change the shuckle set i guess
     
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    the point of the lead scenario i posited is that you only need to beat starmie right away b/c the only thing it can spin on if webs lowers its speed is unboosted garchomp (which it would have to catch on a double switch). everything else straight ohkoes it. offenses keep up hazards by maintaining pressure as much as they do by having a bisharp or gengar in the back anyway.

    i'll pop this into showdown and give it a run myself and then i'll have better suggestions, but i'm guessing you're going to want something that doesn't need webs support to outspeed stuff. something like, say, azumarill--bulky, strong, has priority--will probably be the type of thing i give a run. you don't want all of your eggs, defensively, to be in the webs basket.
     
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