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school *sigh* well at least i got that off my chest. i just found out that i have to take the AMC (american math challenge) wed. jan. 25. last year it was optional but this year my teacher is being mean and making us take it. it's pointless anyway but it was really hard last year.
man is school a pain!
man is school a pain!
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*of course... all those school talk in DCC certainly indicates we need one of these again ;p *c* *
*so 22sa... what poems are you doing right now anyway?*
*so 22sa... what poems are you doing right now anyway?*
I've already done a poem called "Only Child". It was like 12 stanzas and we had to do all this analyzing which I basically just drifted through. :\frostweaver said:
Now, as a group project, I'm doing "Before two Portraits of my Mother" which is really short, 4 stanzas! And these stanzs are short too! ^_^;;;
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*hmm...
I love the beautiful young girl of this portrait, my mother, painted years ago when her forehead was white, and there were no shadows in the dazzling Venetian glass of her gaze. But this other likeness shows the deep trenches across her forehead's white marble. The rose poem of her youth that marriage sang is far behind. Here is my sadness. I compare these portraits, one of a joy radiant brow, the other careheavy; sunrise and the thick coming on of night. And yet how strange my ways appear, for when I look at these faded lips my heart smiles, but at the smiling girl my tears start.
This one? Hmm... looks... difficult =/ . The only version on the internet is one without line breaks (which can matter a lot) so can't really help you... but perhaps after he gets his physics done he can look into it and perhaps try his best to help?*
I love the beautiful young girl of this portrait, my mother, painted years ago when her forehead was white, and there were no shadows in the dazzling Venetian glass of her gaze. But this other likeness shows the deep trenches across her forehead's white marble. The rose poem of her youth that marriage sang is far behind. Here is my sadness. I compare these portraits, one of a joy radiant brow, the other careheavy; sunrise and the thick coming on of night. And yet how strange my ways appear, for when I look at these faded lips my heart smiles, but at the smiling girl my tears start.
This one? Hmm... looks... difficult =/ . The only version on the internet is one without line breaks (which can matter a lot) so can't really help you... but perhaps after he gets his physics done he can look into it and perhaps try his best to help?*
Lol, you actually found it? I tried to find it at school but failed...:P
Diffcult? Man, you should've seen the other poems. The teacher picked over groups and gave us all a booklet of poems. Then we were, one member from each group to go up and draw a poem from the bag without looking. And of all the super long poems in that booklet we got a short one. ^_^;;; So I think my group's pretty lucky. And one of the members of our group is gone all of next week so we don't have to present when everyone else has too either!! XD;;
Yah, I think I understand the poem, sort of. I already analyzed and paraphrased it with a partner but it's probably not very well done. Do you know why she is sad when she looks at the younger girl in the end. I know it's her reaction but I'm still kind of unclear at how to explain it. And more importantly, what is the author suggesting :laugh:!?
Diffcult? Man, you should've seen the other poems. The teacher picked over groups and gave us all a booklet of poems. Then we were, one member from each group to go up and draw a poem from the bag without looking. And of all the super long poems in that booklet we got a short one. ^_^;;; So I think my group's pretty lucky. And one of the members of our group is gone all of next week so we don't have to present when everyone else has too either!! XD;;
Yah, I think I understand the poem, sort of. I already analyzed and paraphrased it with a partner but it's probably not very well done. Do you know why she is sad when she looks at the younger girl in the end. I know it's her reaction but I'm still kind of unclear at how to explain it. And more importantly, what is the author suggesting :laugh:!?
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*I love the beautiful young girl of this portrait, my mother, painted years ago when her forehead was white, and there were no shadows in the dazzling Venetian glass of her gaze. But this other likeness shows the deep trenches across her forehead's white marble. The rose poem of her youth that marriage sang is far behind. Here is my sadness. I compare these portraits, one of a joy radiant brow, the other careheavy; sunrise and the thick coming on of night. And yet how strange my ways appear, for when I look at these faded lips my heart smiles, but at the smiling girl my tears start.*
*hmm... i'll try to do a mini dialogue journal perhaps? It's the OSA method of analyzing... perhaps you won't get it but maybe it'll still help a slightly bit?*
*first of all, the "I" (speaker) is not known... no clue who the speaker is*
*portrait- artistical, picture, face, description, drawing, record*
*the portrait is painted years ago... this means that the mother in the drawing is very old or even died now. Also the portrait may not have colors, and perhaps decayed and deformed a bit now*
*when her forehead was white... as if either describing she's still very young, or she's feeling bad and her face is pale/white*
*shadows- whenever someone's eyes is related to being black, it usually suggests it to be evil/dark, mysterious. Whatever the mother is feeling at that time perhaps maybe clouded up*
*Venetian Glass- tells us the setting is in Venice, or that's where the portrait is drawn*
*a change in portrait, now it's the 2nd one*
*the trenches indicate that she's frowning in the picture... seems like she lived her whole life in saddness as the frowning actually brings the speaker to a feeling of the familiar*
*marble- cold register*
*white- contrast to the dark eyes, and somewhat ironic for the frowning and the saddness*
*seems like the mother's marriage is one of complete dissatisfactory. rose poem which gives you such a romantic feeling is so far behind... as in time. Perhaps she regarded marriage as happiness back then but now she frowns most likely because of her marriage.*
*rose- beautiful but "even a rose has its thorns". It's already indicated that the mother's perception of marriage is too naive and too beautiful*
*here is my saddness- first thing/detail about the speaker...*
*the portrait when the mother is young is happy (sunrise). the other portrait of her after marriage is of complete saddness (night)... yet the speaker though fully aware of the situation of the 2 portraits smiles at the sad portrait while the speaker cries for the happier portrait. Knowing this, the speaker considers him/herself to be kind of wrong or strange (saddness)*
*looking back, there is a contradiction... the speaker cries for the happy portrait, which s/he "loves" according to the beginning of the poem. *
*the happy portrait is always referred to as "girl" pretty much... girl suggests youth, and fresh in terms of time... also younger in age suggests ignorance. Perhaps this is why she's smiling and is so happy. Yet in the portrait after marriage, the "mother" (not "girl") is sad and smiles no more. Mother's register gives us a more formal, older register... as a mother she knows more than a "girl". Perhaps whatever knowledge the mother gained as a mother in comparison to a "girl" made her sad*
*perhaps (a guess) the speaker feels reliefed and is happy for his/her mother's realization of the grielf in the world. While the ignorant, naive girl in the happier portrait is living a sheltered life being mocked and fooled by the world, still thinking that the world is all great and joyful. The fact that she's such a fool maybe the reason why the speaker starts weeping- for her ignorance.*
*Possible theme/human condition: When we're young, we merely know a portion of what's there in the world. We imagine this world to be of complete happiness. Yet when time passes by and we become an adult, we start to witness the pain within this world and what great responsibility we must carry out. Then we'll come to a sudden realization that we were simply ignorant all our lives to think that this world is something to be happy for.*
*note: who's the author of it? If you know, check the poet's biography... poet's past always affect what s/he writes*
*of course the above is only my version of the interpretation... it's probably way off and is very shallow...*
*hmm... i'll try to do a mini dialogue journal perhaps? It's the OSA method of analyzing... perhaps you won't get it but maybe it'll still help a slightly bit?*
*first of all, the "I" (speaker) is not known... no clue who the speaker is*
*portrait- artistical, picture, face, description, drawing, record*
*the portrait is painted years ago... this means that the mother in the drawing is very old or even died now. Also the portrait may not have colors, and perhaps decayed and deformed a bit now*
*when her forehead was white... as if either describing she's still very young, or she's feeling bad and her face is pale/white*
*shadows- whenever someone's eyes is related to being black, it usually suggests it to be evil/dark, mysterious. Whatever the mother is feeling at that time perhaps maybe clouded up*
*Venetian Glass- tells us the setting is in Venice, or that's where the portrait is drawn*
*a change in portrait, now it's the 2nd one*
*the trenches indicate that she's frowning in the picture... seems like she lived her whole life in saddness as the frowning actually brings the speaker to a feeling of the familiar*
*marble- cold register*
*white- contrast to the dark eyes, and somewhat ironic for the frowning and the saddness*
*seems like the mother's marriage is one of complete dissatisfactory. rose poem which gives you such a romantic feeling is so far behind... as in time. Perhaps she regarded marriage as happiness back then but now she frowns most likely because of her marriage.*
*rose- beautiful but "even a rose has its thorns". It's already indicated that the mother's perception of marriage is too naive and too beautiful*
*here is my saddness- first thing/detail about the speaker...*
*the portrait when the mother is young is happy (sunrise). the other portrait of her after marriage is of complete saddness (night)... yet the speaker though fully aware of the situation of the 2 portraits smiles at the sad portrait while the speaker cries for the happier portrait. Knowing this, the speaker considers him/herself to be kind of wrong or strange (saddness)*
*looking back, there is a contradiction... the speaker cries for the happy portrait, which s/he "loves" according to the beginning of the poem. *
*the happy portrait is always referred to as "girl" pretty much... girl suggests youth, and fresh in terms of time... also younger in age suggests ignorance. Perhaps this is why she's smiling and is so happy. Yet in the portrait after marriage, the "mother" (not "girl") is sad and smiles no more. Mother's register gives us a more formal, older register... as a mother she knows more than a "girl". Perhaps whatever knowledge the mother gained as a mother in comparison to a "girl" made her sad*
*perhaps (a guess) the speaker feels reliefed and is happy for his/her mother's realization of the grielf in the world. While the ignorant, naive girl in the happier portrait is living a sheltered life being mocked and fooled by the world, still thinking that the world is all great and joyful. The fact that she's such a fool maybe the reason why the speaker starts weeping- for her ignorance.*
*Possible theme/human condition: When we're young, we merely know a portion of what's there in the world. We imagine this world to be of complete happiness. Yet when time passes by and we become an adult, we start to witness the pain within this world and what great responsibility we must carry out. Then we'll come to a sudden realization that we were simply ignorant all our lives to think that this world is something to be happy for.*
*note: who's the author of it? If you know, check the poet's biography... poet's past always affect what s/he writes*
*of course the above is only my version of the interpretation... it's probably way off and is very shallow...*
[insert hundred shocked faces here]
Well you did lots and you did it fast!!!! I would've been head on the desk after my first sentence of analysis if it weren't a partner project lol.
The speaker is the a daughter of the mother mentioned there btw. It all depends the gender of the author who's name isn't spelt in English. =/
Well you did lots and you did it fast!!!! I would've been head on the desk after my first sentence of analysis if it weren't a partner project lol.
The speaker is the a daughter of the mother mentioned there btw. It all depends the gender of the author who's name isn't spelt in English. =/
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*nah... just because the speaker is "I" that doesn't automatically mean it's the poet... possibly but not a must.*
*err... not english? Wonder if this is an translated poem then...*
*short poems are actually harder to do... the same amount of ideas are in both long and short poems. However in the more condensed poems the same amount of ideas are squished into very precise choice of diction so each word means more and is a lot deeper... it's actually harder = /*
*err... not english? Wonder if this is an translated poem then...*
*short poems are actually harder to do... the same amount of ideas are in both long and short poems. However in the more condensed poems the same amount of ideas are squished into very precise choice of diction so each word means more and is a lot deeper... it's actually harder = /*
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*lol... with your intelligence you'll be just fine 22sa... Frosty did all that he can with this... hopefully he can be of some minor form of help to you? Best of luck with your analysis 22sa!*
Thanks... I think I'll do write some things about connotations and attitude over the weekend. The analysis is at school, but I guess I can try to take it home tommorrow if I meet my project partner, a specific one because it's on his computer account, tommorrow. I don't have English tommorrow but I know where his locker is. Thanks a lot frostweaver! :P
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English is definitely my least favorite subject.
I know how to analyze stories and I know grammar what more do they need to teach us?!?
anyways...my school is called Eisenhower High School. If you live in norhtern Houston, you've probably heard of its reputation as a ghetto thugland. I am one of the about 130 honors students out of 2017 total students and my strongest subjects are math science and art. My weakest subject is English and History. My GPA is about 2.7 on the four-point scale and 6.3 on the ranking scale.
what else should I tell you?
I know how to analyze stories and I know grammar what more do they need to teach us?!?
anyways...my school is called Eisenhower High School. If you live in norhtern Houston, you've probably heard of its reputation as a ghetto thugland. I am one of the about 130 honors students out of 2017 total students and my strongest subjects are math science and art. My weakest subject is English and History. My GPA is about 2.7 on the four-point scale and 6.3 on the ranking scale.
what else should I tell you?
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*the point is that regardless of how much you *think* you know how to analyze stories... it's still "not enough" "expand here" "<insert other reasons of messing up here?" and so on... it's never enough to be of satisfactory -_-*
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I hate Biology, It's boring, Id rather have Chemistry... ;) I love any Foreign Language Class..
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I was swimming in gym class today. I did 180's and 270's into the pool.
Try solving this: 4x?+9=73
Try solving this: 4x?+9=73
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x=4Gold Raikou said:
Teara
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My school is full of phyco teachers. Our science teacher hears voices in his head and yells at them out loud. Stink bombs are also a comstant problem, oh well, off to high school next year.
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I think Biology is Stupid, We cut and Color Chromosomes all day, I want Chemistry... Or Physics.. or whichever comes first :).
Theres like 5,000 Kids at my school so theres lots of mess ups in schedules/
Theres like 5,000 Kids at my school so theres lots of mess ups in schedules/