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Unlimited NiGHTS

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    Gyarados @ Leftovers; Intimidate
    Adamant; 212 HP, 16 Attack, 180 Defense, 100 Speed
    Waterfall
    Stone Edge
    Dragon Dance
    Taunt

    Tyranitar @ Life Orb; Sand Stream
    Naughty; 216 Attack, 96 Special Attack, 196 Speed
    Crunch
    Fire Blast
    Earthquake
    Ice Beam

    Uxie @ Leftovers; Levitate
    Bold; 252 HP, 128 Defense, 72 Special Attack, 56 Special Defense
    Psychic
    Thunderbolt
    Toxic
    Stealth Rock

    Snorlax @ Leftovers; Thick Fat
    Careful; 252 HP, 252 Special Defense, 4 Attack
    Body Slam
    Crunch
    Sleep Talk
    Rest

    Porygon-Z @ Choice Specs; Adaptability
    Modest; 4 HP, 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed
    Tri Attack
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt
    Dark Pulse

    Gliscor @ Leftovers; Sand Veil
    Impish; 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Attack
    Earthquake
    Aerial Ace
    Knock Off
    Roost

    This is a team I came up with on my own, following Anti-Pop's advice to start with a core and build up from there. I hope I did OK.
     
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    Unlimited NiGHTS said:
    Gyarados @ Leftovers; Intimidate
    Adamant; 212 HP, 16 Attack, 180 Defense, 100 Speed
    Waterfall
    Earthquake
    Dragon Dance
    Taunt

    Fine

    Vespiquen @ Leftovers; Pressure
    Impish; 252 HP, 100 Defense, 156 Special Defense
    Attack Order
    Defend Order
    Heal Order
    Toxic

    Eww, w/e floats your boat...

    Donphan @ Leftovers; Sturdy
    Impish; 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Attack
    Earthquake
    Stealth Rock
    Ice Shard /Toxic
    Rapid Spin


    Ive found Toxic more useful on this dude, it helps with spin blockers.

    Regice @ Leftovers; Clear Body
    Calm; 252 HP / 252 def / 6 sp.def
    Ice Beam
    Seismic Toss
    Sleep Talk
    Rest

    Change the ev spread

    Porygon-Z @ Life Orb; Adaptability
    Modest; 4 HP, 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed
    Tri Attack
    Ice Beam/ Hidden power Fighting
    Dark Pulse
    Nasty Plot

    Good

    Gliscor @ Leftovers; Hyper Cutter
    Jolly; 252 HP, 252 Speed, 4 Attack
    Earthquake
    Rock Polish
    Roost
    Baton Pass

    Id use this to Pass Rock Polish, it'll help P-Z more And the rest of your team.
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    Well get rid of Vespiquen, its not doing anything in OU....

    Try this >> it


    Tyranitar@Life Orb
    Naught Nature
    216 ATT / 96 SP.ATT /196 SPEED
    - ice beam / Hidden power Grass
    - Fire Blast
    - Earthquake
    - Crunch

    With a Rock Polish passed to it from Gliscor, this dude rapes ALL..


    HP Grass for swampy, otherwise Ice Beam is more useful.
     
    Dark_Azelf said:
    Well get rid of Vespiquen, its not doing anything in OU....

    Try this >> it


    Tyranitar@Life Orb
    Naught Nature
    216 ATT / 96 SP.ATT /196 SPEED
    - ice beam / Hidden power Grass
    - Fire Blast
    - Earthquake
    - Crunch

    With a Rock Polish passed to it from Gliscor, this dude rapes ALL..


    HP Grass for swampy, otherwise Ice Beam is more useful.
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    Ew, Hidden Power. I hate having to breed for that, especially since I'm a perfectionist. I'd easily take Ice Beam there.

    Still, I wanted to use Vespiquen on a team. I thought maybe after a Defend Order or two, I could just use Attack Order and Heal Order to take care of whatever. Ah well.

    All right, I'll change the team.
     
    If you were a perfectionist, then you would go for Hidden Power...:P

    Azelf pretty much pointed most of the stuff out.

    ScarfGengar can tear through this team really. At least Blissey is able to T-Wave it. May I suggest Scarfing your P-Z or removing Regice for Blissey. (No matter how boring it is, it works...;))

    ~T_S
     
    Tortured_Soul said:
    If you were a perfectionist, then you would go for Hidden Power...:P

    Azelf pretty much pointed most of the stuff out.

    ScarfGengar can tear through this team really. At least Blissey is able to T-Wave it. May I suggest Scarfing your P-Z or removing Regice for Blissey. (No matter how boring it is, it works...;))

    ~T_S
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    Done.

    And no, I wouldn't. Hidden Power is too difficult to breed for, because I'd go for the 70 maximum base power and the right type. That's far too difficult.
     
    Unlimited NiGHTS said:
    Gyarados @ Leftovers; Intimidate
    Adamant; 212 HP, 16 Attack, 136 Defense, 144 Speed
    Waterfall
    Stone Edge
    Dragon Dance
    Taunt

    Stone Edge over Earthquake please. 144 speed means you can outrun many major threats including Adamant Weavile and Timid Gengar after 1DD.

    Tyranitar @ Life Orb; Sand Stream
    Naughty; 216 Attack, 96 Special Attack, 196 Speed
    Crunch
    Fire Blast
    Earthquake
    Ice Beam

    Fine

    Donphan @ Leftovers; Sturdy
    Impish; 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Attack
    Earthquake
    Rapid Spin
    Toxic/Ice Shard
    Stealth Rock

    Ice Shard is an option, even though Azelf says otherwise. :P

    Regice @ Leftovers; Clear Body
    Calm; 252 HP, 4 Special Defense, 252 Defense
    Ice Beam
    Seismic Toss
    Sleep Talk
    Rest

    Doesn't really do much for you. Could be replaced by Blissey or perhaps Cressy/Snorlax.

    Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf; Adaptability
    Modest; 4 HP, 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed

    Tri Attack
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt
    Dark Pulse / HP FIGHT

    Fine, but maybe HP FIGHT. (Cause you hate breeding for it. :P)

    Gliscor @ Leftovers; Sand Veil
    Jolly; 252 HP, 184 Def, 72 Spd
    Earthquake / Aerial Ace
    Rock Polish
    Roost
    Baton Pass

    Aerial Ace because this is your Hera Counter. You need Def to be able to switch in on a CB hit. I changed your EV's a tad.

    This is a team I came up with on my own, following Anti-Pop's advice to start with a core and build up from there. I hope I did OK.
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    Ok, looks ok, but I'm not in the mood to think of any more problems. I will have a look sometime later.

    Regards,

    ~T_S
     
    ScarfGar doesn't tear through this team, especially considering it sucks. Snorlax Crunches it and will take unboosted Focus Blast, not to mention Gyarados can come in on that if that's what it's using.

    As for everything else, solid physical resistances, really there aren't any physical sweepers that break this team. At least I thought that until I saw BP Gliscor. Ew. Nothing really receives its pass and really uses it well, so I would just run a standard wall. I would watch out for Weavile as well, which pretty much ends you. Gyarados can kind-sorta take it, but really it can only take so many hits.

    Also Scarf Porygon-Z is the worst of its 3 most used sets. Specs and Nasty Plot are both a lot better. Also, the Nasty Plot set would make BP Gliscor viable on this team again if you have your heart set on using it. Very interesting build for a team, I will say that. Also you might as well run max HP and SDef on Snorlax, I've found the 28 Def EVs to not really help.
     
    Anti-Pop said:
    ScarfGar doesn't tear through this team, especially considering it sucks. Snorlax Crunches it and will take unboosted Focus Blast, not to mention Gyarados can come in on that if that's what it's using.

    As for everything else, solid physical resistances, really there aren't any physical sweepers that break this team. At least I thought that until I saw BP Gliscor. Ew. Nothing really receives its pass and really uses it well, so I would just run a standard wall. I would watch out for Weavile as well, which pretty much ends you. Gyarados can kind-sorta take it, but really it can only take so many hits.

    Also Scarf Porygon-Z is the worst of its 3 most used sets. Specs and Nasty Plot are both a lot better. Also, the Nasty Plot set would make BP Gliscor viable on this team again if you have your heart set on using it. Very interesting build for a team, I will say that. Also you might as well run max HP and SDef on Snorlax, I've found the 28 Def EVs to not really help.
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    All right, I changed a few things. How does it look now?
     
    drop one of your physical walls for something that isn't water weak. ttar can't do crap to bulky waters, and gyarados is your only counter for him, while many bulky waters have their own ways of taking care of gyarados. so i suggest you drop donphan for something that can handle bulky waters, set stealth rock, and defensively tank. you don't really need a spinner since your team isn't all that weak to it and gyarados prevents srock anyway.

    i suggest you try uxie or mesprit. you definitely need some additional sp attacking power, so it's something to consider. plus, you need a gyara counter as well, and both have access to thunderbolt.
     
    Samson said:
    drop one of your physical walls for something that isn't water weak. ttar can't do crap to bulky waters, and gyarados is your only counter for him, while many bulky waters have their own ways of taking care of gyarados. so i suggest you drop donphan for something that can handle bulky waters, set stealth rock, and defensively tank. you don't really need a spinner since your team isn't all that weak to it and gyarados prevents srock anyway.

    i suggest you try uxie or mesprit. you definitely need some additional sp attacking power, so it's something to consider. plus, you need a gyara counter as well, and both have access to thunderbolt.
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    Hmm... Uxie is the more defensive one, right? I'll try that. Thanks.

    EDIT: Will that Uxie's EVs work?
     
    Tortured_Soul said:
    Mesprit is arguably the best Gyara counter in the game. It has quickly become one of my favourite pokemon. Try it.

    ~T_S
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    Mesprit is really awesome, i had a battle with it the other day and a DD Waterfall it a 3hko =o, Uxie is pretty sweet aswell.


    Mesprit@Leftovers
    252 HP / 176 DEF / 80 SP.ATT
    Bold Nature
    - Thunderwave / U-Turn
    - psychic / Hidden power [Ground]/Stealth Rock
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunderbolt

    U-Turn for scouting and for Pursuit users, t-wave for team support, Psychic for STAB, Hidden power Ground hits E-Vire, magnezone and other steels such as metagross harder than anything else on the set. Stealth Rock for team support aswell.

    Uxie@Leftovers
    252 HP / 200 def / 40 sp.def / 16 sp.att
    Relaxed Nature
    - U-Turn
    - Thunderbolt
    - Stealth Rock
    - Yawn / Psychic / Reflect


    EDIT : Damn, you already got the set, change those evs if your wanting it to take on Gyarados
     
    Dark_Azelf said:
    Mesprit is really awesome, i had a battle with it the other day and a DD Waterfall it a 3hko =o, Uxie is pretty sweet aswell.


    Mesprit@Leftovers
    252 HP / 176 DEF / 80 SP.ATT
    Bold Nature
    - Thunderwave / U-Turn
    - psychic / Hidden power [Ground]/Stealth Rock
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunderbolt

    U-Turn for scouting and for Pursuit users, t-wave for team support, Psychic for STAB, Hidden power Ground hits E-Vire, magnezone and other steels such as metagross harder than anything else on the set. Stealth Rock for team support aswell.

    Uxie@Leftovers
    252 HP / 200 def / 40 sp.def / 16 sp.att
    Relaxed Nature
    - U-Turn
    - Thunderbolt
    - Stealth Rock
    - Yawn / Psychic / Reflect


    EDIT : Damn, you already got the set, change those evs if your wanting it to take on Gyarados
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    I guess it's just a choice between balance or defense... I think I'll take that Mesprit.
     
    Uxie is a much cooler Gyarados counter and a much cooler pokemon too >:0

    I'd really recommend it, I ran it on my older stall team and lol, it will counter MixApe, Gyarados, you name it. It's also really fast for a wall and can SR. Honestly I'd say that over Mesprit, but you really can't go wrong either way.
     
    Anti-Pop said:
    Uxie is a much cooler Gyarados counter and a much cooler pokemon too >:0

    I'd really recommend it, I ran it on my older stall team and lol, it will counter MixApe, Gyarados, you name it. It's also really fast for a wall and can SR. Honestly I'd say that over Mesprit, but you really can't go wrong either way.
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    You're better at this than I am, so I'll take your word for it. Since I lost the Uxie set, do you mind posting some ideas?
     
    Ah ha! Found my old stall team thread where I had this:

    Uxie @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 72 SAtk / 56 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Psychic
    - Toxic
    - U-Turn / Thunderbolt
    - Stealth Rock / Yawn

    Really win set, U-Turn more for escaping Pursuit. Uxie is pretty cool, so yeah. Either way, you can't go wrong, so feel free to overrule me lol
     
    Anti-Pop said:
    Ah ha! Found my old stall team thread where I had this:

    Uxie @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 72 SAtk / 56 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Psychic
    - Toxic
    - U-Turn / Thunderbolt
    - Stealth Rock / Yawn

    Really win set, U-Turn more for escaping Pursuit. Uxie is pretty cool, so yeah. Either way, you can't go wrong, so feel free to overrule me lol
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    Okay, so how does it look now?
     
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