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Straw Hat Crew v3

charizard_maa

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    For anybody who cares. I like to nickname my WiFi Pokemon after the Straw Hat Pirates from One Piece. Still to the team that I have plan to make.



    Lopunny AKA Nami @ Lagging Tail/Toxic Orb
    Klutz
    Jolly, 252 HP/26 SpD/232 Speed
    Switcheroo
    Mirror Coat
    Toxic/Return/Sky Uppercut
    Heal Wish


    Opener, switch items. Annoy...eye candy. Fun of all fun. Still the idea is to use Switcheroo to give them Lagging Tail so it would slow down any pokemon since openers are usually fast. Maybe subbed for a Choice Item or Sticky Barb. To make this Lopunny support a team more, Heal Wish. Not sure if I want to go with Toxic stall, Return for STAB or Sky Uppercut for attacking. Mirror Coat could be use since it will get so much HP and could be use with good prediction.

    Cresselia AKA Robin @ Leftovers
    Levitate
    Modest, 20 HP / 252 Def / 236 SpA
    Ice Beam
    Charge Beam/Thunder Wave
    Moonlight
    Reflect/Psychic

    Need spread and moveset. I heard this thing can go Physical and SPeacil as in attacking. The physical one I heard uses a FlameOrb and Psyhco Cutter but not sure if that is a good idea.

    Seem to be a better use then Dusknoir. Heavy in defense and Ice Beam kills dragons. I think I will use Psychic since it is another attacking move and it gets STAB too. Moonlight to heal. Thunder Wave to use when I can predict a switch since I can't really switch into a Garchomp because there is a strong chase there will be a switch since it common sense that a Ice Beam is to follow.

    Electivire AKA Ussop @ Expert Belt
    Motor Drive
    Mild, 76 Atk/252 SpA/180 Speed
    Thunderbolt
    Flamethrower
    HP Ice
    Cross Chop

    Aww, good old wire. I kind of like this pokemon since it kind of covers a lot of different types. I find it handy to use.

    Gyarados AKA Merry Go @leftovers
    Intimidate
    Adamant 212 HP, 16 Att, 180 Def, 100 Spd
    Dragon Dance/Ice Fang
    Taunt/Ice Fang
    Waterfall
    Earthquake/Stone Edge

    I want to use Ice Fang over one of them since I am thinking that I will be unable to pull off the Dragon Dance or Taunt to where it be of use. Well I think I may have battle against a few in the past but I never seen on Taunt on me before. Still I know how all Gyradoses are things you don't want to face in a corner.

    Snorlax AKA CHopper @ Leftovers
    Thick Fat
    Careful, 252 HP/28 Def/236 SpD
    Body Slam
    Rest
    Sleep Talk
    Crunch/Fire Punch

    I used another kind of snorlax and I know how defense these guys can be. So it more for trust.

    Infernape AKA Luffy @ Life ORb
    Blaze
    Naive, 24 Att / 252 SpA / 232 Spd
    Fire Blitz
    Close Combat
    Grass Knot
    Stone Edge/Mach Punch

    Need a replacement for Infernape. Still is this set seems better since it kind of covers ground.

    That is all I have so far for a team. ANy suggestions for the last two? ANything that could make what I have so far better?
     
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    Pokemondude23 said:
    How about a:

    Rhyperior@Focus Band Haxx item
    Trait:Solid Rock
    Evs:252 HP, 220 Speed, 159 Attack Lol, what? 220 Speed?
    Rock Wrecker 2 Turn moves stink
    MegaHorn
    Swords Dance
    Fireblast/Earthquake Fire Blast with Base 55 Sp.Attk=Fail
    Click to expand...

    I'm not an expert, but that's horrible advice.
     
    Shame on you, Bobbery Joe. You don't have to be an expert to know that's horrible advice :laugh:
     
    You really need some walls. Dusknoir can't take everything your opponent throws at you. You should probably ditch Lopunny since it really isn't helping out your team much. Simply passing on a Sticky Barb to a pokemon isn't going to win you a match and Lopunny is very predictable. DD Gyarados gives you a hard time if Breloom doesn't have SE and so does physical Infernape, sort of. Until you add in some walls, it is very hard to rate your side.
     
    Dusknoir has no feet, so it can't qualify as Sanji..

    Sticky Barb is largely inferior to other items that you could put on Lopunny, mainly Choice Band and Lagging Tail. Lopunny isn't going to hurt the opponent's team substantially with Sticky Barb, and still leaves you vulnerable to a sweep.
    If you're running it as a lead, CB.

    Lopunny @ Choice Band
    Cute Charm
    Jolly, 26 HP, 252 Attack, 232 Speed
    Switcheroo
    Return
    Ice Punch
    Sky Uppercut/Focus Punch

    Lopunny @ Lagging Tail
    Klutz
    252 HP/26 SpD/232 Speed
    Switcheroo
    Mirror Coat
    Toxic/Charm
    Charm/Healing Wish

    Noir wants Thunderpunch to stop your team from getting raped by Gyarados. Noir wouldn't enjoy switching into STAB Draco Meteors or Outrages, so the usefulness of Ice Punch is lessened.

    Electivire wants the Mixed attacking set as it gets walled by any decent physical wall if you're using the standard.

    Electivire @ Expert Belt/Life Orb
    Mild, 76 Atk/252 SpA/180 Speed
    Thunderbolt
    Flamethrower
    HP Ice
    Cross Chop

    If HP Ice is unobtainable, I suggest ditching Electivire since none of your pokemon really attract Electric attacks.

    As much as I like Breloom, it can't perform well in a speed based metagame as this, and most teams pack a status absorber so its Sporing advantages are lessened.

    Either use Sub/FP/Seed Bomb/Spore or Sub/FP/Leech Seed/Spore
    Breloom only needs 229 speed (actual stat), Jolly really hurts it as it really likes the attack boost from Adamant.

    I would reserve the last two slots for physical/special walls, since your walling is especially lacking.
    Skarmory/Hippowdon for a physical wall, since Fighters are mainly dealt with by Dusknoir. Gliscor is a superior choice, if you switch Noir out for Bronzong which takes care of Mamoswine and Weavile.
    I would recommend Rest/Talk Snorlax for a special wall due to the ability to absorb status and paralyse with Body Slam.

    Snorlax @ Leftovers
    Thick Fat
    Careful, 252 HP/28 Def/236 SpD
    Body Slam
    Rest
    Sleep Talk
    Crunch/Fire Punch

    Overall, your team's offense and defense are lacking, Lopunny serving almost no use on your team and is pretty much a one trick pony. I really would suggest a complete revamp of this team.

    Pokemondude23 said:
    How about a:

    Rhyperior@Focus Band
    Trait:Solid Rock
    Evs:252 HP, 220 Speed, 159 Attack
    Rock Wrecker
    MegaHorn
    Swords Dance
    Fireblast/Earthquake
    Click to expand...

    No, don't recommend crap like that. Focus Band is banned because it is a hax item, Rock Wrecker is an inferior move to Stone Edge due to recharge time, and Rhyperior WANTS NEEDS Earthquake. It isn't going to sweep anything with base 40 speed and no para support/ speed passes or boosts, and 252 HP isn't going to help it survive its many weaknesses.
    In this instance, Rhyperior gets delegated to the position of RhyInferior trying to sweep with base 40 speed and its six common weaknesses.
    Outrunning base 67s and above (base 79s with +speed) isn't a priority with SD.

    Edit: 3 posts before I posted mine =(
     
    Yeah, I relize this morning that Dusknoir has no feet. I think since he was black that is why. Still yeah. His name my be change later depending on what the last two pokemon would be.

    I was thinking about Lagging Tail as a replacement or a switch on the Sticky Barb for some battles so it won't always be the same for Lopunny. Choice Band was another item I was thinking about but I think eventually I would steal a choice item then use Switchroo again on something like a Blissey. Still I think I may just go with Lagging Tail so that would make the other pokemon as the same speed as Lopunny.

    SpeacilWire. Never tried that before. Still, this is only my idea, would it be a good idea to make Electivire into a mix? Instead of HP Ice could Ice Punch be subbed for it? Or would that be too weak? Or could there be somebody that else that could do Electivire job better?

    ALso I admit that I am no expert but I do know Rock Wreaker is not that great compare to StoneEdge.

    As of walls that what the last two spots are for. I have no idea what to do as in pokemon for them. Still I guess I am up for a revamping of this team but I do want to keep Lopunny.

    I added the snorlax. I used a CurseLax (horrible but it worked) so I know how much damage they can take and I been thinking about a SleepTalk Snorlax for awhile.
     
    I'm actually one of the few fans of Lopunny in existence, so I'll just throw in my two bits for that. Lopunny can't get both Sky Uppercut AND Switcheroo. The only pokemon that get Switcheroo naturally are Hypno and Linoone, and Lopunny is the only thing you can breed it with, so you can't get both moves on it.

    Also, if you're using the Klutz/Switcheroo thing, you can always go with a Flame Orb or Toxic Orb. If they switch and get it stuck on, say... Guts anything, then it sucks, as you'll probably just be trading the same item, but it can cripple a few Sweepers and Walls, respectively.
     
    Lopunny can get both through Smeargle.

    For Electivire, HP Ice is preferable due to the need to hit Gliscor. I would suggest not going with Vire if you cannot obtain HP Ice, and substitute it with another sweeper around the ~100 speed range.
     
    That is a good point about the Toxic Orb and Flame ORb. I guess I can sub them for some battles too if I don't want to go with the Lagging Tail or something like it. As of the Sky Uppercut and Switcheroo I may just drop Sky Uppercut if it can't be done or replace it with Toxic/Return or an Ice/Thunder Punch.

    Ok. I guess I think about it. HP Ice does sound a bit hard to get though.

    Also I need one more pokemon and maybe some more clean up/switch-out on the pokemon I have here. ANy suggestions for the last one? Everybody seems to be suggesting a wall and I am thinking Bronszong because I been playing with the idea of Stealth ROck. Would that work or are there any other pokemon can can wall and attack or be better choices?
     
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    Zolo? :D Dub Piece = Fail.

    I like the team, but I think Infernape would fit well. I reccomend Infernape since it covers up your fire slot. Stone Edge/Swords Dance/Flare Blitz/Close Comat or just rid Swords Dance for Grass Knot.
     
    Watch FUni dub. It is better.

    Well I was thinking INfernape and playing with the idea but I don't see if Grass Knot is worth it since people know that he may be carrying it. Also don't I need to devote some EV into SpA if I want to use it so it can KO.

    Also I am thinking about dropping Electivire and since I am adding an attacker I am thinking a good defender like Gliscor could be used here. Still I am lacking a SpA and really I have no idea about what could fill that spot. I think I run a spa ELectivire but really it doesn't sounds as good as something else that can be fast and take a hit better. Suggestions?
     
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    I read through the revision, and I'm seeing holes in your team.

    Firstly, Dusknoir is not a physical wall, and never will be even with Will-O-Wisp. Dusknoir succumbs easily to powerful moves and has an annoying Dark weakness.
    While Cresselia also has it, it has access to Reflect (more reliable than WoW) and vastly superior stats (120/120/130) to Dusknoir (45/135/135). Dusknoir is best as an Rapid Spin blocker.
    I would recommend Cresselia over Dusknoir as a physical wall and to deal with Garchomp and Salamence. If you desire, you could drop a sweeper and use Gliscor and Skarmory/Bronzong in conjunction, covering almost all of the dangerous physical threats in D/P.
    Alternatively, you could put Gliscor over Dusknoir and use a Gyarados over Breloom. BulkyGyara gives your team more offense and is a better fit over Breloom. GyaraVire is not spammed like it was in the early D/P, so its safe to run both Gyarados and Electivire on the same team.

    Infernape should not run Grass Knot on an all-physical set and a -SpA nature. It does not seem a good fit on this team. Judging by your needs, I would recommend a Weavile or Garchomp in the place of Infernape for revenge-killing.

    Really, if you want to fit another special sweeper I would recommend ditching Lopunny. It does not contribute to the team synergy and you arguably would not benefit from slowing down another pokemon through Switcheroo.
     
    Yeah you right. I guess Dusknoir needs to get out. The Cresselia looks better but I am not sure about it's moveset or spread. Kind of just got it from that Smogon site but I am not sure if that is a good spread or set.

    The Gryrados looks better too since I am worry about the predictablity of Breloom. Still I don't know the set for a BulkyDos and I am not up for a Dragon Dance one either since it takes time to use and a bit risky. Can somebody provide the set for a Bulkydos. I would look it up but a bit short of time right now. The set there is just something I pulled out.

    Weavile I am more inclide to use. It has Ice Shard to pick off those with only small ammont of HP and Brick Break. THen it is faster then anything. I post a set that I know and see if that is ok. Still it looks like I can be walled by Swampert. Still if I change the set for infernape then would that work better?
     
    BulkyDos is


    Gyarados@leftovers
    212 HP / 16 ATT / 180 DEF / 100 SPEED
    Adamant Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Taunt
    - Waterfall
    - Earthquake / Stone Edge / Ice Fang
     
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