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Suggestion for banned members

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    Well, as you already might know, whenever someone gets banned, there are people (like me) who want to know the reason why someone is banned.
    Many people seem to feel pissed off by that...

    Now I've got a suggestion: Why don't you put the reason for a ban in the member's signature or in a new profile field?
    People would stop asking for reasons and there wouldn't be a whole thread about abnned member.
    Only the people who'd care would look at the member's profile and find the reason.

    So, what do you think?
    Comments are welcome a lot.
     
    I agree 100% with -pika2000-'s post. People should have the option to know why they are banned. When I was banned, I had no idea WHY, so I had to hunt down steve XD
     
    I don't think that's a bad idea, really. Members are naturally curious on why one person is banned, and I don't think they mean to be inquisitive or just plain nosy..'Sides, half the time I miss out on why someone was banned. o_O;
     
    When I was banned they won't tell me the reason so I find the reason why by logging myself out
     
    I don't particularly think it's the members' business why somebody was banned, because that's just stickybeaking. e_e; But it -would- be nice if you guys could at least e-mail a member when you ban them explaining what they did and what they can do to resolve it. o.o;
     
    As long as it didn't go into too much detail, I don't think it's an invasion of privacy ^^;

    I like the idea :D
     
    Hey thats a beautiful Idea =D I'm still wondering of what happen to Jkaizer and if I can contact that guy and it would be a sinch to see him and why he was banned o.o For ether way I dont think he deserved anything at this moment cause I was never given a answer T_T. i'b be happy to have such a format idea =D Very nice suggestion and it's one I vote for !
     
    Perhaps, but you don't tell people what members have done wrong before they were banned... see what I mean? If they're a friend of yours and they're a member, they obviously have an e-mail address that you can keep in touch with them over, so you could ask for yourself, which is why I asked that the staff start sending e-mails when they ban, so that member knows why they've been banned and can tell their curious friends. ^^; And if you aren't a friend, then you needn't be worrying about other people's business~
     
    We already had a discussion about this in Tyler's thread. The staff said:
    Jorge said:
    All bannings are private matters between the member and staff, that's it, there was never a "policy" there was never any "right" the members had to know about other's private matters.
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    ...And then there's that. Even though I don't fully agree with that, but that's another matter.

    Fact is, either you're the person's friend, in which case you should have their contact info to ask them yourself, or you aren't, in which case it's none of your business. <3
     
    There's an upside and downside to this. The upside is that people will know what the member did to warrant a ban or suspension, or what rule did they breach. But if the reasons are controversial, they will then start demanding the "truth", and there's going to be serious problems. However, keeping tight-lipped when someone (especially the popular members) gets banned or suspended is not going to work either.
     
    eX.A.K.R. said:
    There's an upside and downside to this. The upside is that people will know what the member did to warrant a ban or suspension, or what rule did they breach. But if the reasons are controversial, they will then start demanding the "truth", and there's going to be serious problems. However, keeping tight-lipped when someone (especially the popular members) gets banned or suspended is not going to work either.
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    They'll just have to learn to live with it. The reason as to why some person you don't even know was banned isn't something that you should be causing controversy over~
     
    Listen, the staff will proably never change thier rules about this, but the best way to find out the REAL truth, is the ask the banned member in question. That is basically the bottom line. Any higher up that posts in the thread is probably going to say that.

    And if they don't know why they are banned maybe then is the time to ask questions...
     
    Who knows. If members know, then maybe they'll actually learn from what the banned person did wrong.
     
    LilyPichu said:
    Who knows. If members know, then maybe they'll actually learn from what the banned person did wrong.
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    That's all but the case. I'm not going to insist that there was a 'members have the right to know' policy, but for many months before information on bans stopped being shared around, there existed a routine of member asks why another member was banned, and somebody answers that member. Didn't do anything in the way of stopping such acts. Plus, a banned member's username doesn't show up on the member list, and I doubt many people would think of searching for posts made by that member just to reach their profile. So, um, yeah.

    Thomas: *blinks* I had to make a post on my LJ before Erica replied explaining why~
     
    Wait, what did I explain? o_O *can't even remember now* Hn. Anyway, here's hoping it's basically the same as what I'm saying now. edit: Nevermind. I get it. *idiot*

    Not telling why someone was banned simply protects their privacy and dignity, to put it bluntly. I know if I were banned, I likely wouldn't want it broadcasted to the entire board; I'd want to keep it quiet until the ban expired or else...just not known if that weren't the case. Anyway, fact is, we don't tell why people were banned. If it's not obvious from their posts, the posts were either deleted or edited for content, or perhaps it was another form of abuse. Regardless, we do not ban for every little offense; when we do ban, we have good reason to, rest assured.

    Now...if someone has absolutely no idea why they were banned, that's probably not a good thing for either side--the staff as a team and the individual member. o_o It means a lack of communication because members SHOULD be getting warnings for their offenses leading up to the ban. But then, if you don't even know you're doing something so wrong it merits a ban, well, the rules page would be a good place to start for that.

    Anyway, we don't feel it necessary to let everyone's ban history be shown. Most people would rather keep it under wraps, I would assume. Though, if you have a friend who was banned, I don't really see any problem with PMing a higher staff member to ask for ways to get in touch with that member if for some reason they don't have their e-mail displayed, etc. o_o

    I suppose sending e-mails wouldn't be too hard to add to the policy...I'll bring that up. ^^; It's a good idea. Probably much better than simply...arriving at the forums to find yourself banned without prior knowledge.
     
    Lightning said:


    Not telling why someone was banned simply protects their privacy and dignity, to put it bluntly. I know if I were banned, I likely wouldn't want it broadcasted to the entire board; I'd want to keep it quiet until the ban expired or else...just not known if that weren't the case.
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    So what is better: People making a thread about some members ban, or just a little notice in the member's sig?
    Which of these things is attractiong more attention?
    Lightning said:
    Anyway, fact is, we don't tell why people were banned.
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    I've noticed that too...


    The reason for someone's ban wouldn't be broadcasted to the entire forum, if it would be in somebody's sig/profile field.
    People who'd care about the person or were curious, could just look it up and the others wouldn't see it at all.
    What would be wrong with that?
     
    i agree. it seems like a good idea to put a short memo on what rules they broke like "harassed people via PM" or "posted images of nudity." i'm still unsure why scyther5 was banned. i'm pretty sure he thinks he was banned just because he was disaproving of current moderators (which shouldn't merrit a ban). i'd be interested in finding out exactly what rule he broke... (if any)
     
    Hmm. This is a touchy subject. Being banned should be somewhat shameful on the person receiving the ban. They should know why they were banned, and possibly made an example of. Now, one could argue that "that's not nice." Well, tough love isn't going to hurt anyone. Clearly, if they are made an example of infront of all of PC, more often then not, they will either apologise and not make the same mistake again, or do it again and be banned permanently.

    Yes, if I were banned (which I don't think will happen) I would like to know why. However, it would benefit other members if they knew why I was banned, and I probably would not repeat the same mistake.

    That is my two cents.

    AbareMax
     
    If a member is banned and they don't know why they're banned they can just e-mail one of the higher staff and ask. If any of their friends want to know why they were banned...then they can just ask them over IM or e-mail. There isn't any reason to put why a member was banned. Chances are, if it's bad enough the post were deleted or sigs were edited, and that won't be reposted for members. It's between the banned member and the one who banned him/her.
     
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