..::Utter Hatred::..

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    DECK UPDATED 11-14!
    Catchy name I know... I will collect money once I post the deck

    Why such a dramitic title you may ask... well take a look and you tell me.


    Utter Hatred
    Monsters 11
    Des Lacooda
    Des Lacooda
    Des Lacooda
    Swarm of Locusts
    Swarm of Locusts
    Swarm of Locusts
    Stealth Bird
    Stealth Bird
    Stealth Bird
    Swarm of Scarabs
    Swarm of Scarabs

    Spells 9
    Wave Motion Cannon
    Wave Motion Cannon
    Wave Motion Cannon
    Nightmare Steelcage
    Nightmare Steelcage
    Nightmare Steelcage
    Level Limit Area- B
    Graceful Charity
    Swords of Revealing Light

    Traps 20
    Anti-Spell Fragrance
    Anti-Spell Fragrance
    Anti-Spell Fragrance
    Rivarly of Warlords
    Rivarly of Warlords
    Rivarly of Warlords
    Ojama Trio
    Ojama Trio
    Ojama Trio
    Solemn Judgment
    Solemn Judgment
    Solemn Judgment
    Magic Jammer
    Magic Jammer
    Threatening Roar
    Threatening Roar
    Wall of Revealing Light
    Just Desserts
    Mirror Force
    Ring of Destruction

    The Side Deck 15
    Mobius the Frost Monarch
    Mobius the Frost Monarch
    Mobius the Frost Monarch
    Des Koala
    Messenger of Peace
    Messenger of Peace
    Mystical Space Typhoon
    Waboku
    Waboku
    Mask of Restrict
    Mask of Restrict
    Trap Dustshoot
    Trap Dustshoot
    Threatening Roar
    Gravity Bind

    Idea is a mixture of things... in Feb. someone used a deck with Trio.Warlords and took it to and SJC... started 3-0 but fell off the mountain so to say. His deck had a LOT of P.A.C.M.A.N. in it. He also sided into full Reversal Quiz OTK... something that hurt his deck a LOT in my opinion.

    This side deck is perfect. It has pre-set side ins/outs to face curtain decks

    Vs. Cyber Stein OTK Side Deck/Main Deck
    + Waboku
    + Waboku
    + Trap Dustshoot
    + Threatening Roar
    + Des Koala

    - Wall of Revealing Light
    - Swarm of Locusts
    - Des Lacooda
    - Swarm of Scarabs
    - Nightmare Steelcage

    Vs. Soul Control and/or Monarch Control and/or High Tribute Decks
    + Mask of Restrict
    + Mask of Restrict
    + Messenger of Peace

    - Wall of Revealing Light
    - Threatening Roar
    - Nightmare Steelcage

    Vs. Standard Anti-Burn Side (Decree, Dust and Frost Monarch
    + Mobius the Frost Monarch
    + Mobius the Frost Monarch
    + Mobius the Frost Monarch
    + Mystical Space Typhoon
    + Messenger of Peace
    + Mask of Restrict

    - Threatening Roar
    - Rivarly of Warlords
    - Anti-Spell Fragerance
    - Magic Jammer
    - Stealth Bird
    - Just Desserts

    I think the side-deck is this decks strength. It counters of the expected (and quite frankly un-expected) decks fairly well. The only cards in the side deck that doesn't have a designated purpose are Wall of Revealing Light and Gravity Bind. But this is a burn deck all together and those cards are great stall to add if I face an over-extending, over-agressive individual

    As it stands now you are looking at my Boxborough, Mass. December 30th Regionals Deck
     
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    ...As I pointed out in your Goblin deck, the problem with relying on a side deck is that you're basically open the first round, so if you get someone that has a NATURAL Anti-Burn/Monarch/maxed-Decree deck, chances are good that you'll get stuck and lose the first round, leaving you having to play catch-up in the other two. And if you happen to be playing Swiss for some crazy reason...you're out of luck. You might want to stick with that Anti-Burn side for the long run and switch out if it's safe to do so.
     
    Who said I am open for game one? I am 6-1 in indv. games against a 3x Zaobrg 3x Cyber Dragon deck

    This deck is perfect against the meta.. a side deck is a strengh
     
    Who said I am open for game one? I am 6-1 in indv. games against a 3x Zaobrg 3x Cyber Dragon deck

    This deck is perfect against the meta.. a side deck is a strengh

    What I was pointing out is that if you end up getting stuck agianst someone with a normal deck already prepared for a deck like this (3x Decrees, Jinzo, etc), the side deck can't help you out until after the first round, meaning that unless you get lucky you'd have trouble.
     
    This seems better than most of your other decks. It looks to be a good build and it seems that you have had the deck looked at already. I would suggest a Morphing Jar for the deck.
     
    This seems better than most of your other decks. It looks to be a good build and it seems that you have had the deck looked at already. I would suggest a Morphing Jar for the deck.

    No one has looked at it... this is my fix and creation of a few decks... different forms of P.A.C.M.A.N., burn, and the Rivarly.Ojama combo

    Now in regards to "if you play 1 jinzo, 3 decree"

    There were 11 Royal Decrees main decked or side decked in the last 3 Shenon Jumps COMBINED. It is the PERFECT time to play this deck! Chaos Return is DIED so the 3 Decree trap line up is RARELY played!

    I am taking advantage of the sudden Monarch fad! Remember everyone is saying 'Dont play Jinzo no one is running more than 5 traps right now. Dont run Mobuis mained deck everything is chainable'

    I am going to zero in on the popular belief of everyone and expose it as the major weakness in this format right now. Breaker, MST and Heavy Storm are the only main decked S/T destructure right now.

    In each of my matches I either Locusts-Anti Spelled away their Heavy or Solemn/Jammered it

    Once I did that it was over... my opponent looked at me and they knew it was over. Even if they pulled an MST I had 4 traps that were hurting them(or Spells)... Wave Motion, Rivalry and two face downs seemed to be my normal play... with Ojamas on their field.

    They werent ready for my deck. And if they had something sided to counter me all it was was one Dust, one Decree and 1/2 Mobuis

    So once they start that I go fine... side in MST, my Frost Monarchs and Mask of Restrict...

    MST and Frost Monarch to counter the ONE decree and my Mask to counter their Frost Monarch after I already destroyed their Decree

    Again they are in a touch spot and just can't respond.

    Somone said I would loss game one because i rely on the side deck! Actually its the other way around. I DONT rely on the side deck game one. I 90% of the time would WIN game oen since NO ONE MAIN DECKS Frost Monarch or Decree right now.

    They are siding them.. and when they side deck I counter them back...

    the NetDeckers of world of Spicer's deck fall HARD to this one.

    In regardsto M. Jar:
    But I could get burned with Rivarly out =/
     
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    A simple mathematic addition will point out the problem of this deck o.o;

    Stalling monsters: none
    Stalling spells: 5
    Stalling traps: now this one we'll need to do in detail
    -let Rivalry of Warlord count as "0.5" since it doesn't do much without ojama trio at the same time
    -let Ojama Trio count as "0.5" since it doesn't do much without Rivalry of Warlord
    -let Ring of Destruction count as "1" even though technically it only "blocks" one attack and it still deals "damage" to you
    -let Solemn Judgment count as "0.5" because you won't use it against a summon/special summon early on, but you'll reserve it to protect the other stall cards. However, in late game, it can be used to deny the summon because it is critical.
    -let Mirror Force and Threatening Roar both count as "1"

    So, we got how many stall cards? "12.5" stalling cards out of 40... and that's actually higher than in practice. The Rivalry of Warlord can be completely useless for many, many turns of Ojama Trio doesn't seem to show up, and the opponent can easily live with only the Cyber Dragon without the Don Zaloog on the field if he's only up against an empty field anyway. Also, don't forget that the Apprentice Magician toolbox is completely unharmed by Rivalry of Warlords because everything is facedown for it, too.

    The other problem is like all the other burn decks in this meta. Only the LLAB is truly "permanent," while Rivalry doesn't always help (yes, let's see what rivalry can do against Cyber PHoenix and Cyber Dragon together) Let's say that Breaker, Heavy Storm and Mystical Space Typhoon are the bottom 3 cards of your opponent's deck and your opponent won't ever shuffle the deck cause his deck is weird. He also got no other methods to get rid of s/t. This should be heaven for burn decks cause there's no solution to all its stalls, but for this deck, the stall collapses after a few turns just because it's only the cage and the sword... too bad.

    It's not a bad deck. It's just shafted by the banlist just like any other burn decks. To make the most out of it, really try to add Magician of Faith into the deck, or at the very minimum the sidedeck. Getting back Swords is really crucial here, since it forces Rivalry of Warlord's effect and it stalls. As well...

    -2 Magic Jammer
    +1 Gravity Bind (from sidedeck to maindeck)
    +1 Wall of Revealing Light (from sidedeck to maindeck)

    Thus increase overall efficiency of stalls. Isn't 3 anti-spell fragrance with the 2 s/t eating buggies enough against the two evil evil Heavy Storm and Mystical Space Typhoon? This also brings in 2 permanent stalls into the deck too.



    Problem that is really difficult to solve for this deck:
    -the 3 Cyber Phoenix, 3 Cyber Dragon and 3 Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive

    They're all machines, so Rivalry do crap about it. Dekoichi and CPhonenix both slip under Messenger if they come in from the sidedeck. Rivalry can really only stop these two if Ojama got into play before they do (or else Rivalry will blow up the tokens instead of the machines, well guess that's 900 burn... but no stall.) So we're left with... just the Gravity Bind and the LLAB. 2/40... our chances are not doing so well. Also, Dekoichi is basically immune to Rivalry, cause it must flip and draw before Rivalry will ever kill it off.

    As a sidenote, Cyber Stein and Cyber Twin Dragon are also all machines... Rivalry once again become a dead draw in this situation.


    Though I seem to speak really ill of this deck, I don't think it's that bad at all! It's the format's problem, and not this deck's problem. I can never hate a Wave Motion Cannon deck ;o;
     
    Problem that is really difficult to solve for this deck:
    -the 3 Cyber Phoenix, 3 Cyber Dragon and 3 Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive

    They're all machines, so Rivalry do crap about it. Dekoichi and CPhonenix both slip under Messenger if they come in from the sidedeck. Rivalry can really only stop these two if Ojama got into play before they do (or else Rivalry will blow up the tokens instead of the machines, well guess that's 900 burn... but no stall.) So we're left with... just the Gravity Bind and the LLAB. 2/40... our chances are not doing so well. Also, Dekoichi is basically immune to Rivalry, cause it must flip and draw before Rivalry will ever kill it off.

    As a sidenote, Cyber Stein and Cyber Twin Dragon are also all machines... Rivalry once again become a dead draw in this situation.


    Though I seem to speak really ill of this deck, I don't think it's that bad at all! It's the format's problem, and not this deck's problem. I can never hate a Wave Motion Cannon deck ;o;


    As long as "Rivalry of Warlords" is active, you cannot Summon, Flip Summon, or Special Summon an inappropriate Type face-up (including "Jinzo"), but you can Special Summon face-down with "The Shallow Grave", "Morphing Jar #2", etc.

    You didnt know that did you?

    Enjoy SET you Gain Train... I have never once attacked with this deck... set it.. clog the field ENJOY!

    I can just go Ojama-Rivlary... look Gain Train = DONE

    a change I HAVE made

    - Lava Golemns
    + Wall of Reveal.
    + Waboku

    Picked Waboku over Gravity Bind due to

    A. Chainability
    B. Once the "lock" is in place I do NOT want to clog up S/T zones...

    Anti-Spell
    Solemn/Jammer
    Rivalry

    Is already 3.. and if I want to play Graceful I needa set etc.

    To quote a former regionals top 8er
    "think that's a top 8"
     
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