What nature/Move set for Starmie and Salamance

[Shinji_]

I know for sure i'm going to have Rapid spin on Starmie becuase im thinking of replacing my Gyrados with Starmie and my Garchomp with Salamance.

 

[sims796]

Aw, no Gyarados? Well, I hear a good things on this Starmie:

Starmie:???
Nature:Timid
Surf
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Rapid Spin

I don't know much on Starmie, but it seems nice to me. Correct me if I'm wrong.

EDIT: Whoops, forgot the Nature!

 

[Persona]

If you're using Starmie as your rapid spinner, it'd be best to give it more HP EVs.

Starmie @ Leftovers
Timid Nature
EVs: 180 HP/112 Sp.Atk / 216 Spd
- Surf
- Recover
- Ice Beam / T-Bolt
- Rapid Spin

216 EVs in speed will grant you enough to outspeed things like Gengar who tries to throw in a Thunderbolt or an Infernape that may be using Thunderpunch or Grass Knot.

sims796 has the right moveset, but I really think that Recover needs to be in there.

 

[Shinji_]

I like the idea of having Recover considering the fact that I also have a leftover equipped which would buy me some time.

 

[sims796]

IMO, I wouldn't recommend both Recover AND Leftovers, because she is a famous and effective Bolt-Beamer.

 

[Persona]

It's true that Starmie makes an effective BoltBeamer, but if you're going to use a Rapidspinning set, Leftovers is still required, even with Recover included. Starmie will turn out lucky if it faces an opponent without a Weavile included in their team. This is no Choice Specs Starmie, otherwise, I would have completely agree with both Thunderbolt and Ice Beam in that moveset.

 

[sims796]

I see. I'm no Starmie expert.

 

[Waffle-San]

Are you looking for a physical sweeping Salamence, Specsmence, or Mixedmence. There all over he place these days. Maybe not so much specsmence but the other two are.

 

[Shinji_]

Im looking for a sp mance

 

[Persona]

Im looking for a Sp mance

Salamence @ Choice Specs
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Pulse
- Draco Meteor
- Hydro Pump

Standard SpecsMence. :x

 

[Shinji_]

Sorry I actually meant a Mix I currently have a Naughy Bagon thats why <.<

 

[Persona]

Sorry I actually meant a Mix I currently have a Naughy Bagon thats why <.<

Salamence @ Life Orb
Naughty Nature
EVs: 252 Atk / 116 HP / 140 Spd
- Fire Blast / Flamethrower
- Dragon Claw
- Brick Break
- Stone Edge / Rock Slide

Last option is really up to you. Stone Edge for more power, or Rock Slide for accuracy. If you prefer neither, Earthquake is another option.

 

[sims796]

I would advise Stonr Edge + PP Max. Rock Slide just didn't do it for me.

 

[Waffle-San]

I personally like DD to trick the opponent into trowing something like a Skarmory at you.

DD
Dragon Claw
Flamethrower
EQ/Stone Edge/Rock Slide

 

[Shinji_]

I might consider dragon dance anymore suggestions?

 

[Punishment]

People are often tricked into making Starmie a special sweeper because of it's base 100 SAtk and wide movepool.

Go with Shirosaki's set. But I highly recommend Tbolt over Ice Beam. Without it a bulky water such as Milotic walls it easily.

The general rule is not to force Starmie into two roles. If it is going to be a Rapid Spinner make it bulky.