Which Gyrados Moveset?

[Jimmyray]

I wanna have a few backups for my team, and I've come up with a few movesets for a Gyrados, could you tell me which one is better in your opinion? I'd rather you pick one of mine than suggest something comletely new, as it may be very awkward for me... Thanks:

Gyrados@Leftovers
252 Attack 252 Defense 6 Speed
Adamant

Dragon Dance
Taunt
Waterfall
Return

Gyarados@Life Orb
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Jolly

Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Earthqake
Ice Fang

Gyarados@Leftovers
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 Defense
Adamant

Dragon Dance
Taunt
Earthquake
Waterfall

Thanks

~Jimmyray

 

[Sora_8920]

I wanna have a few backups for my team, and I've come up with a few movesets for a Gyrados, could you tell me which one is better in your opinion? I'd rather you pick one of mine than suggest something comletely new, as it may be very awkward for me... Thanks:

Gyrados@Leftovers
252 Attack 252 Defense 6 Speed
Adamant

Dragon Dance
Taunt
Waterfall
Return

Gyarados@Life Orb
252 Adamant 252 Speed 6 HP
Jolly

Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Earthqake
Ice Fang

Gyarados@Leftovers
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 Defense
Adamant

Dragon Dance
Taunt
Earthquake
Waterfall

Thanks

~Jimmyray

Tauntdos is easily predicted so, middle one.

 

[Anti]

Gyarados fails w/o taunt and DD IMO, since skarm can roar it away w/o taunt, and it doesn't have potent power w/o DD. Then EQ and waterfall would be good for the last two slots...

You might wanna check those EV spreads a bit though...doesn't need 252 speed.

 

[Sora_8920]

Gyarados fails w/o taunt and DD IMO, since skarm can roar it away w/o taunt, and it doesn't have potent power w/o DD. Then EQ and waterfall would be good for the last two slots...
You might wanna check those EV spreads a bit though...doesn't need 252 speed.

This is easily predictible like I said. He will switch out.

 

[Anti]

This is easily predictible like I said. He will switch out.

who will switch out? The only gyarados set I actually recommend is tauntrados...the others don't work well. And gyara doesn't need all that speed and attack when it already has DD...try making it more bulky.

 

[Sora_8920]

who will switch out? The only gyarados set I actually recommend is tauntrados...the others don't work well. And gyara doesn't need all that speed and attack when it already has DD...try making it more bulky.

Skarm will switch out on Taunt. Because he will predict it before it's even used.

 

[sims796]

This is easily predictible like I said. He will switch out.

Itachi, I use Tauntdos, and I swept MANY teams. If they switch, BAM. I use DD, while they switch. Or Taunt, allowing him to set up a DD.

 

[Anti]

Skarm will switch out on Taunt. Because he will predict it before it's even used.

Wah Wah! Poor skarm need a hug? MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That is why I love tauntrados, to destroy skarm like the ugly iron bird it is. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That pretty much explains why tauntrados is the best...it can sweep teams too, w/o having to worry about PHazers and hazers.

 

[Sora_8920]

Hmm. I guess it works pretty well. But yeah, getting swept away after a DD isn't funny.

 

[sims796]

Hmm. I guess it works pretty well. But yeah, getting swept away after a DD isn't funny.

So you recall our match, eh?

 

[Jimmyray]

But it doesn't really need EQ either because Return has better base power, and Waterfall + Return covers pretty much everything, including annoying levitaters like Bronzong and Weezing XD

sims796 - I beat your Gyarados with my Dragonite, which then carried on to kill the rest of your team, remember?

 

[sims796]

Then Electrivire has a field day, if it catches you before you get DD in. And if your worried bout Zong, Return damn sure won't help.

 

[Sora_8920]

So you recall our match, eh?

We had a match with Tauntdos? I don't remember me or you using Taunt to counter Skarm. Or better yet, having a Skarmory. But what I do remember is you using taunt on one of my pokes. Blissey?

 

[sims796]

No, Spiderpig. Caught it while you were using Reflect.

 

[Anti]

See, return has better base power by 2 I believe, maybe 4. WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!! But no. EQ has far better coverage. Waterfall deals with flyers and levitators. Besides, steel is one of the most common types, and they lol at return, and some even at waterfall. That is where EQ comes in. Bye bye metagross! Bye bye steelix! Get it?

 

[Sora_8920]

No, Spiderpig. Caught it while you were using Reflect.

Ah, Grumpig. I was using a uu then for a change, and i'm using another Uu now. Honchrow with Insomnia. (Sp)? i'm copying you now, except with a different bird. :P

 

[sims796]

But it doesn't really need EQ either because Return has better base power, and Waterfall + Return covers pretty much everything, including annoying levitaters like Bronzong and Weezing XD

sims796 - I beat your Gyarados with my Dragonite, which then carried on to kill the rest of your team, remember?

And that proves?

Fact is, with Return, you won't beat Zong. EQ has greater coverage. If your so scared of Nite, then get Stone Edge.

 

[Anti]

And that proves?

Fact is, with Return, you won't beat Zong. EQ has greater coverage. If your so scared of Nite, then get Stone Edge.

What sims said. Return is only good on normal pokes for the most part. And yeah, Bronzong still laughs at you. Return was used on it in 3rd gen only, and HP flying was better than anyways. Point is, return is more f a novelty on Gyara, since there are far batter options.

 

[Sora_8920]

And that proves?

Fact is, with Return, you won't beat Zong. EQ has greater coverage. If your so scared of Nite, then get Stone Edge.

Any steel type, imo. (With Return). Fortress, would Spike you if you didn't have Taunt.

 

[Dark Azelf]

See, return has better base power by 2 I believe, maybe 4. WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!! But no. EQ has far better coverage. Waterfall deals with flyers and levitators. Besides, steel is one of the most common types, and they lol at return, and some even at waterfall. That is where EQ comes in. Bye bye metagross! Bye bye steelix! Get it?

I had the exact same problem and so did Sims i believe.




I chose Ice Fang and EQ, because other Gyarados, Dragons and Tangrowth lol at you otherwise and the majority of people use Dragons, although it lacks STAB, it has better coverage.


Any ways the EVS for it are 212 HP / 16 ATT / 180 DEF / 100 SPEED.

Does Return work well on it from anyones personal experience ?