Why doesn't Nameless have fun with UU Pokemon? WHY???

[Faceless*]

Hi, I've been using this team for several weeks on Shoddy and it has done a magnificant job. The only losses in this team were particularly because of the big blue blob of crap and the mindless DNA thing.

Gengar@Focus Sash
Trait - Levitate
EV's - 252 SPATK / 252 SPD
Nature - Timid
Moves -
- Hypnosis
- Thunderbolt
- HP (Ice)
- Focus Blast

Anti, please don't shoot me for Focus Sash =P

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Donphan@Leftovers
Trait - Sturdy
EV's - 252 HP / 100 ATK / 152 DEF
Nature - Impish
Moves -
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake

I love this guy, the only thing I found about this guy is his hate for Gyarados.

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Blissey@CHOICE BAND Leftovers
Trait - Natural Cure
EV's - 252 HP / 252 DEF
Nature - Bold
Moves -
- Softboiled
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Double-Edge err.. Sunny Day

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Skarmory@Leftovers
Trait - Keen Eye
EV's - 252 HP / 152 ATK / 100 DEF
Nature - Impish
Moves -
- Roost
- Brave Bird
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

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Garchomp@Leftovers
Trait - Sand Veil
EV's - 252 HP / 4 ATK / 252 SPD
Nature - hmm.. depends on Fire Blast or Fire Fang
Moves -
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast/Fire Fang
- Dragon Claw

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Infernape@Focus Sash
Trait - Blaze
EV's - 152 ATK / 100 SPATK / 252 SPD
Nature - Hasty/Naive
Moves -
- Fire Blast
- Close Combat
- Grass Knot
- Stone Edge

Yeah, hits everything at COMPLETE full power once it's Blaze ability activates with Sunny Day boost.


- Yes, I'm sorry, another boring OU rate... I'll make a UU team one day but not at the moment

 

[Sora_8920]

CHOICE BAND BLISS!

Okay...

Fire Fang.

And... You didn't say anything about me... =P *Grabs gun and shoots* Gengar's fine.

You will not wall anything with just 100 Defense EVs.

Blissey wants her Special Defense EVs this gen. = The sex. Lol.

 

[Cloud_85]

Only one thing, Why have a Skarmory in a "Sunny Day Team" ? I guess you should try another wall... Swampert is also a good PHazer, but he will fail doing Hydro Pump/Waterfall...

 

[Sora_8920]

Only one thing, Why have a Skarmory in a "Sunny Day Team" ? I guess you should try another wall... Swampert is also a good PHazer, but he will fail doing Hydro Pump/Waterfall...

1.) If you're referring to "Fire Types," then nobody keeps him on those. Especially special ones. 2.) And that's just completely wrong, Waterfall for physical variants, Mixpert and all special variants love Hydro Pump. EDIT: Forgetting Heatran in a Sunny Day Team is just... no.

 

[Cloud_85]

1.) If you're referring to "Fire Types," then nobody keeps him on those. Especially special ones. 2.) And that's just completely wrong, Waterfall for physical variants, Mixpert and all special variants love Hydro Pump. EDIT: Forgetting Heatran in a Sunny Day Team is just... no.

Well actually I don't like have Skarm on Sunny Day, but I'm a total noob on Sunny Day Teams anyways XD. And with Swam, what I was saying is that his water attacks will decrease by 50% if my mind don't fail me...
And I agree with Heat, he will do just awesome, Scarftran will be great here...

 

[Sora_8920]

Well actually I don't like have Skarm on Sunny Day, but I'm a total noob on Sunny Day Teams anyways XD. And with Swam, what I was saying is that his water attacks will decrease by 50% if my mind don't fail me...
And I agree with Heat, he will do just awesome, Scarftran will be great here...

Took me just now to realize what you meant by what you meant before. >.<

 

[Anti]

EDIT: Forgetting Heatran in a Sunny Day Team is just... no.

??? Also no offense, but everything not dead about the term "the sex" was killed in your first post.

Anyways, Gengar as this team's only fighting resist is begging for trouble my good sir. As Itachi said, donphan and skarmory both need way more Def than what they have.

I'm sorry but Gyarados in a Sandstorm with 1 DD (as in, Hippowdon starts and Gyarados switches into Blissey...very possible) will 6-0 this team. also, Nasty Plot Fire Blast does a ton more than sunny Day Fire Blast with a lot less EVs and no Life Orb. Honestly, the Sunny Day thing only hinders this team.

And really, I know it has its uses and blah blah blah, but Focus Sash is a terrible item and there's no guarantee Hippowdon won't Roar in Nape or Gengar and take away their item. High risk...not so great reward.

 

[Sora_8920]

??? Also no offense, but everything not dead about the term "the sex" was killed in your first post.

Anyways, Gengar as this team's only fighting resist is begging for trouble my good sir. As Itachi said, donphan and skarmory both need way more Def than what they have.

I'm sorry but Gyarados in a Sandstorm with 1 DD (as in, Hippowdon starts and Gyarados switches into Blissey...very possible) will 6-0 this team. also, Nasty Plot Fire Blast does a ton more than sunny Day Fire Blast with a lot less EVs and no Life Orb. Honestly, the Sunny Day thing only hinders this team.

And really, I know it has its uses and blah blah blah, but Focus Sash is a terrible item and there's no guarantee Hippowdon won't Roar in Nape or Gengar and take away their item. High risk...not so great reward.

None taken. Also, Heatran is great in a Sunny Day Team. FB just smokes everything.

 

[Faceless*]

??? Also no offense, but everything not dead about the term "the sex" was killed in your first post.

Anyways, Gengar as this team's only fighting resist is begging for trouble my good sir. As Itachi said, donphan and skarmory both need way more Def than what they have.

I'm sorry but Gyarados in a Sandstorm with 1 DD (as in, Hippowdon starts and Gyarados switches into Blissey...very possible) will 6-0 this team. also, Nasty Plot Fire Blast does a ton more than sunny Day Fire Blast with a lot less EVs and no Life Orb. Honestly, the Sunny Day thing only hinders this team.

And really, I know it has its uses and blah blah blah, but Focus Sash is a terrible item and there's no guarantee Hippowdon won't Roar in Nape or Gengar and take away their item. High risk...not so great reward.

Usually, people think when I send out a Skarmory, I use Roar/Whirlwind... but this is WHY Skarmory actually has it's attack EV's, see it?

Gengar is the teams huge backbone, but add in Gliscor instead of Donphan? Then the Rapid Spinner is gone, but I do really need suggestions on how to solve these problems. I really don't see how Sunny Day does hinder this team though, is Skarmory actually the reason..?

sims had his Gyarados stopped some while ago by my Skarmory after Stealth Rock was deployed. The Focus Sashes were used for sweeping, you really think Sandstorm is.. well.. that common? Well, playing mind games with Gyardos on SkarmBliss is also an option. If Gyarados uses Taunt on Blissey, I use Seismic Toss and weaken it for Skarmory. If it uses Waterfall, then I use Sunny Day for Focus Sash abuse. However, in all, good look of the team, but I'd really like some suggestions :)

 

[sims796]

More common then it used to be. I was just a gimmick team. Now it's everywhere. But
i still use Sash with a great deal of sucess.

 

[Anti]

I would let you off the hook with Infernape, but does it REALLY make sense to have a focus sasher who is also your fighting resist? When Our friend Machamp comes in, SR may be up and you might not have time to spin it away. Sash gone. You might be outpredicted and could get hit with another move. sash gone. And then there's weather...keep Infernape if you must, but Focus sash Gengar as it relates to this team just makes no sense to thee.

Also, when did I say anything about Gliscor? Personally I think Spiritomb would be looking really good on this team over Gengar.

 

[sims796]

Those are an awful lot of "mights", which is more then less situational. Those sure are some bais opinions of Sash, but backed up, so, you know, can't really argue back too much. The only thing I agree with is the weather thing, which is everywhere. It used to be a gimmick, but morons love their Ttar leads. And then there's Dark Azelf and his jerk of a Life Orb Ttar.

 

[Faceless*]

I would let you off the hook with Infernape, but does it REALLY make sense to have a focus sasher who is also your fighting resist? When Our friend Machamp comes in, SR may be up and you might not have time to spin it away. Sash gone. You might be outpredicted and could get hit with another move. sash gone. And then there's weather...keep Infernape if you must, but Focus sash Gengar as it relates to this team just makes no sense to thee.

Also, when did I say anything about Gliscor? Personally I think Spiritomb would be looking really good on this team over Gengar.

Well sir, adding Spiritomb in place of Gliscor will also get rid of the team's Rapid Spin :o

Rapid Spin helps my Focus Sashes stay in, they are used primarily for sweeping or stop sweeping. Life Orb Infernape will have to switch out after I get a taste of something switching in much faster than itself, some goes for Gengar.

 

[Ársa]

But sash has become less useful the with influx of weather. You need a rapid spinner, but I don't like your use of sash. :(

~T_S

 

[Faceless*]

But sash has become less useful the with influx of weather. You need a rapid spinner, but I don't like your use of sash. :(

~T_S

That is shot down with the word of Blissey having Sunny Day

 

[Dark Azelf]

Those are an awful lot of "mights", which is more then less situational. Those sure are some bais opinions of Sash, but backed up, so, you know, can't really argue back too much. The only thing I agree with is the weather thing, which is everywhere. It used to be a gimmick, but morons love their Ttar leads. And then there's Dark Azelf and his jerk of a Life Orb Ttar.

OLOL

Tyranitar@Life Orb
216 ATT / 96 SP.ATT / 196 SPEED
Naughty Nature
- ice Beam
- Fire Blast
- Crunch
- Earthquake

This is commonly used with speed passed to it from a Rock polish Taunt Gliscor or Zapdos =p <<The latter sims knows all about.

But seriously, it will "Ouch" this team.


Swampert would be nice


Honestly, Focus Sash is ok, but SS and Hail teams are everywhere on shoddy. I really hate that item otherwise..... >=(


Sunny Day on Blissey, just.....makes you heatran weak.... It 2hko's Blissey with the sun up with Life Orb'd or SPecs Fire Blast..So, 40 HP / 252 DEF / 216 SP.DEF@Calm on bliss would suffice...



I also suggest you watch out for CM n Sub mismagius, its really nasty and uses Blissey as set up fodder, and is everywhere on shoddy.



Oh, and CB Gallade, but almost every team is weak to that, so meh...i suppose you can go to skam or Gengar depending on what you predict, Psycho Cut/Night Slash or Close Combat....






Edit : I personally like Toxic or Even knock off on Donaphan, it really cannot do ASS to spin blockers leaving your Focus sashes maimed, putting a major flaw in most your focus sash abusing strategy. And then any stat upper be it Gyarados or w/e, is free to dominate.

 

[Anti]

This team doesn't have Gliscor. also I said spiritomb over the (let's face it) useless Gengar. It doesn't even have a STAB and that set is walled by everything in existence, you should really get rid of it or make it of use to this team.

All the sun does for this team is make you Heatran and Moltres weak as Azelf said and stops the sashes from going away. Still, even if you take EVERY necessary precation, Sashers are very easily thrown off, and it is no smarter to have a Focus Sash on a pokemon you're relying on for resistances.

SR will beat your sashers, and what happens when it's empoleon (basically something that mashes donphan) setting up SR? You can't really do anything. Now you can't switch in Donphan, not to mention your sashers, and walls like that can dominate the match.

Hippowdon could also switch in on Gengar and disable its Sash, as can Tar and Aboma (though the switch in is risky, if they get in the sash iws history).

And really, the pokemon you put sashes on NEED the items they normally have. Without a life Orb, Mixape gets easily walled by Bulky waters everywhere, besides maybe Swampert. Gengar just...isn't helped at all.

I'm fine with pokemon who can make at least some use of it, but Infernape is only hindered by it and you rely on Gengar for defensive purposes, which is just...really odd and makes no sense >.>

As I mentioned above and in my previous post, Spiritomb would help A LOT against your weaknesses over Gengar. It is MUCH more solid defensively and also handles the special attackers that own your Blissey, barring Heatran (and that is easily solved - remove Sunny Day)

If you keep your Focus sashes than fine, but I'd like a justification as it just doesn't make sense.

 

[Dark Azelf]

I didnt notice that Anti.


Shadow Ball on gengar Noaw !!!!! Or your team is kinda completely walled by sturdy psychics n ghosts, especially Rest Cresselia. Also no T-Wave on bliss and no shadow ball on gengar = 110% pure Azelf rape, <<i can finally say that.....

 

[sims796]

Still, even if you take EVERY necessary precation, Sashers are very easily thrown off, and it is no smarter to have a Focus Sash on a pokemon you're relying on for resistances.

This is the only thing out of that rather longwinded post I will pay attention too. How easily? I've never had any problems with it at all, and it enabled me to revenge kill threats that would have otherwise opened my team to new weaknesses (Gya for example). Stealth Rock? Well duh. Which is why I made absolute sure they were never there. Point is, I don't like such broad definitions such as this, as if they are horrible for all teams. For this team, I see better items than that. But I dislike sweeping generalizations. I find that a tad rude, but not in this particular case.

 

[Anti]

Well, I am speaking in both contexts (for this team and in general). You can't just be sure SR doesn't enter the field, that is impossible from preventing in certain situations, and this team is not prepared to stop SRers quickly. Focus Sash in general I don't like, but for this team and this instance I actually think it's worse than I usually think it is. I think it has its uses, but Infernape and Gengar certainly aren't two of them...both need to be doing other things.

It isn't a broad definition at all (I don't even know what I was "defining"). Simply put, Focus Sash is a subpar item in most cases and it especially doesn't fit into this team. It's the only point I'm trying to make.