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Working on an idea for 2nd team. All input is welcome

plasmapistol

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    Here is an idea on a second team. All input is welcome.

    Espeon Lv. 72 (Special Sweeper)
    Nickname- Retribution
    Ability-Synchronize
    Moves-
    Morning Sun
    Psybeam
    Last Resort
    Shadow Ball

    Kabutops lv. 72 (Physical Sweeper)
    Nickname- Defiance
    Ability-Swift Swim + Battle Armor
    Moves-
    Rock Slide
    X-Scissor
    Aerial Ace
    Waterfall (yes it is a physical attack)

    Gallade Lv. 70 (attacker)
    Nickname- Guardian
    Ability-Steadfast
    Moves-
    Psycho Cut
    Hypnosis
    Leaf Blade
    Close Combat

    Kingler Lv. 71 (beat-down)
    Ability-Hyper Cutter + Shell Armor
    Nickname-
    Moves-
    Crabhammer
    Slam
    ???
    ???

    Crobat Lv. 70 (fast attack)
    Nickname-
    Ability-Inner Focus
    Moves-
    Poison Fang
    Air Slash
    Roost
    ???

    Marowak Lv.70 (Heavy Beat-down) item-Thick Club
    Nickname-
    Ability- Rock Head
    Moves-
    Swords Dance
    Bonemerang
    Double Edge
    Focus Blast
     
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    plasmapistol said:
    Here is an idea on a second team. All input is welcome.

    Espeon Lv. 72 (Special Sweeper) @ Leftovers
    Nickname- Retribution
    Ability-Synchronize
    Moves-
    Morning Sun
    Psychic
    Grass Knot
    Calm Mind

    Kabutops lv. 72 (Physical Sweeper) @ Leftovers
    Nickname- Defiance
    Ability-Swift Swim + Battle Armor
    Moves-
    Stone Edge
    Brick Break
    Aerial Ace
    Waterfall

    Gallade Lv. 70 (attacker) @ Choice Scarf/Band or Life Orb
    Nickname- Guardian
    Ability-Steadfast
    Moves-
    Psycho Cut
    Hypnosis/Will-O-Wisp/Thunderwave
    Leaf Blade/Swords Dance
    Close Combat

    Kingler Lv. 71 (beat-down) @ Leftovers
    Ability-Hyper Cutter
    Nickname-
    Moves-
    Crabhammer
    Brick Break
    Rock Slide
    Swords Dance

    Crobat Lv. 70 (fast attack) @ Black Sludge
    Nickname-
    Ability-Inner Focus
    Moves-
    Hypnosis
    Brave Bird/Aerial Ace
    Whirlwind/U-Turn
    Haze/Cross Poison

    Marowak Lv.70 (Heavy Beat-down) item-Thick Club
    Nickname-
    Ability- Rock Head
    Moves-
    Hi
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    even with thick club boosting its attack, marowak is a big ole stinkahface.

    also, only one of your pokemon can take and give special hits (espeon), and even that pokemon can't take very many. there's no point of having both kabutops and kingler on the same team. i love them both, but they do just about the same thing.
     
    Marowaks attack power has the capability of going over 1000 thanks to Thick Club and Swords Dance. Marrowak will own you. Also, i am using Kabutops and Kingler for 2 different purposes. Kingler is physical anti-rock and anti-fire. While Kabutops uses rock and ground type moves (besides aerial ace). I only put in a water type move just incase I might need it, and pretty much because it can learn a water move. Also Espeon shouldnt have clam mind, it wouldnt have enough time on the battlefield to use it. Also, brick break is a really crap move without STAB.
     
    allright, beleive what you must, but something as common as Gengar will pass right through this team.
     
    Actually with STAB, kinglers superior physical attack power, and Kabutops superior attack power they would own any gengar. Psychics arent the only thing that can combat ghosts you know. Yea they may have a type advantage over them but you dont always need water to fight fire so to speak.
     
    plasmapistol said:
    Actually with STAB, kinglers superior physical attack power, and Kabutops superior attack power they would own any gengar. Psychics arent the only thing that can combat ghosts you know. Yea they may have a type advantage over them but you dont always need water to fight fire so to speak.
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    Gengar is faster than both. gengar has both thunderbolt AND energy ball.

    i would love to battle you one day for the free win.
     
    plasmapistol said:
    Actually with STAB, kinglers superior physical attack power, and Kabutops superior attack power they would own any gengar. Psychics arent the only thing that can combat ghosts you know. Yea they may have a type advantage over them but you dont always need water to fight fire so to speak.
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    Attack doesn't matter at all if you have no speed to back yourself up with. Unless you're running Swords Dance + Salac on at least one of them, you should consider yourself live prey to Gengar, and many other sweepers.
     
    Ok, my Torterra has these moves

    Wood Hammer
    Stone Edge
    Earthuake
    Synthesis

    He alone could wipe out your whole team. Hell, just Wood Hammer could take out just about five of em'.

    Please, for the love of all is good & holy, get some sort of defensive wall or something on your team.


    Angelic Diablo said:
    I like how you say all input is welcome, yet you beat down every suggestion you recieve
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    I kinda agree. If you know so much, why are you asking for help? Don't post if you feel you don't need it.
     
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    Alright hold up, im not beating down his advice. I am just voicing my opinion. I am sry if that seemed offensive. So which Pokemon would you guys recommend I remove? I was really thinking about adding a Dragon type like Flygon. Again any input is welcome. Thank you guys for your opinions.
     
    No problem.

    Now as for Flygon...eh. Sure, why not. He's average, at least in my opinion. How about someone who can take more of a beating? Perhaps Milotic?

    I would suggest trading Kingler in for her. He's strong, has greatt defense, but terrible sp. def, and worse, HP. One Thunderbolt will take it out.
     
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    also add a brozong or a skarmory.
    i think it can help your team.
     
    Okay I replaced Marowak and Kingler for these two:
    Golem Lv. 75 (wall/kamikaze)??
    Ability- Rock Head + Sturdy
    Moves-
    Double Edge
    Rock Blast
    Explosion
    Flamethrower

    Sableye Lv. 75 (special wall?)
    Moves-
    There is no list of moves on Bulbapedia for the 4th generation. so I dont know which moves to choose.


    Thanks for any input!
     
    Thanks dude! That site will help me out a bunch *adds to bookmarks*. I will work on a move list soon.
     
    Sweet merciful heavens, please don't put Flamethrower on Golem. I have a Golem, so I should know. He doesn't have the sp.attack to make a dent on even a grass type. Also, he doesn't have the speed, so he won't be able to launch it. When I had Emerald, I felt the need to teach it Flamethrower. Don't make the same mistake I did.

    Here, take my moveset.
    Adament/Brave
    Rock Blast/Stone Edge
    Eathquake
    Stealth Rock
    Explosion/Rock Polish

    If your goona use Brave, take Rock Polish. Note, that I'm not a pro, so you may wan't to do some research yourself.
     
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    I dont think I am going to use Golem. I just realized that a Grass Type would be super effective against 2 of my pokemon, which is 1 too many. I am going to find a tough fire type. Torkoal perhaps? Also I just realized that Sableye has some really crap stats, so I am going to try to find a different Dark/Ghost Pokemon.
     
    Okay I have just found two other pokemon that might do very nicely. What do you guys think?

    Camerupt LV. 70 (special sweeper)
    Flamethrower
    Rock Slide
    Earthquake
    Hyper Beam

    Dodrio Lv. 70 (Physical sweeper)
    Drill Peck
    Giga Impact
    Tri Attack
    Brave Bird
     
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