Anime or Classic Animation?

[FoxHound!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYRPvz-LV-k

This video really made me laugh, a brawl between today's mainstream animation and the good ol' classics like Popeye and Tom n Jerry!

So I ask you, what do you prefer, classic or anime?

[Shiraishi]

Anime. Cartoons now are usually mindless skits that try to be funny. Some cartoons can actually make me laugh but most just make me change the channel :/

[FoxHound!]

I don't mean today's western cartoons, I mean the classics from the 30s to the early 80s.

I'd have to go with classic animation, a lot of anime tries to be funny, but fails miserably. I don't see why big heads and small bodies with a rain drop are considered humorous.

[Shiraishi]

Oh, those. I dislike slapstick in most cases so I prefer my big heads and sweatdrops XD

[FoxHound!]

Every man to his own.
There are some animes i do like, but very few. Most have nothing on say, Looney Toons.

[Crystal Clair]

I prefer anime by far. Here are some reasons.
1. Those classics I hate because they're as old as the hills and lately, I just want to try something new and fresh.
2. The characters in anime are usually hot (unless it's like DBZ where the women are drawn kinda.... rough
3. The comedy is less cliche and it's more in depth

As for the art style preference
I must point out, that when I was little, I liked to draw. However, I was mostly exposed (and knew only of) American cartoons. I didn't like to draw them however. It trapped me because I sucked at realism and I wanted to let my creativity out on paper and my current dotty faces could only express so much. I didn't draw stick figures, I drew a regular figure (or tried to) and put a head with two dots for the eyes, a curved line for the mouth and scribbled hair in a way to make it look realistic.
However, come the influence of Zelda and Pokemon's art style, my characters now had triangle eyes (Team Rocket) and also began sporting anime faces (Team Rocket). I kept evolving with the help of many other art styles. The Toshihiro Ono chibi style really influenced my drawing at one point. But it wasn't just his chibi. My anime eyes were heavily influenced from his artstyle. However, the eye style somwhat resembles Pokesho's art style so people think that whenever I draw the eyes in the Ono influenced style, it's actually Pokesho influenced even though I dont mean it.

But overall, anime (and parts of the Japanese culture like it's language) saved my sorry American butt so I vote for anime.

[kohei]

I like both for what they stand for.
Anime, though some being children entertainment, tend to tackle issues that apply to real life, or have more in depth story telling.
Western cartoons, both classic and modern, are more uplifting in a way, and I love comedy (slapstick or otherwise).

[Ryoutarou]

Put against anime of today, older American cartoons win, easily. The anime field is in a slump just catering to whatever the current otaku, moe or tsundere fad is. Most of today's anime tries to look smart with pseudo political commentary, but it just fails almost all of the time, especially the last few Gundam series and almost any mech that tries the real robot thing. It's ironic that the most recent super robot show, Toppa Tengen, was better than the last three Gundam series. As for comedy? Yeah, older American cartoons win that one too. There are a few good anime in that field, but it's usually just going to be really exaggerated (in a bad way) attempts at comedy.

But put against anime of the early new millennium, 90s and 80s, anime would easily win, that's when anime was at its zenith, nowadays its a failing genre that would rather pump out 20 substandard shows for every two or three good shows.

[Harpuia]

excel saga! watch it than maybe your mind will change!

[FoxHound!]

I've watched most of Excel saga and have two volumes of it on DVD, and it isn't a scratch on Popeye.

Anime's anatomy is nearly always rubbish, admittedly Popeye looks like he has tumours for arms, but that is the art of exaggeration. My old art teacher and current Graphics tutor say anime is the worst art style of all.

In all fairness, older animes like Akira and Fist of the North Star are pretty good, but again, they are classics of the genre.

[kohei]

I've watched most of Excel saga and have two volumes of it on DVD, and it isn't a scratch on Popeye.

Anime's anatomy is nearly always rubbish, admittedly Popeye looks like he has tumours for arms, but that is the art of exaggeration. My old art teacher and current Graphics tutor say anime is the worst art style of all.

In all fairness, older animes like Akira and Fist of the North Star are pretty good, but again, they are classics of the genre.
But isn't the "anime style" an art of exaggeration too?

[FoxHound!]

But isn't the "anime style" an art of exaggeration too?

There are a lot of anime styles. Horrible anatomy and strange anatomy are two different things.

[The Infinite Devil Machine]

Gotta love that classic animation. Super Friends FTW, BTW. xD

I prefer Anime by leaps and bounds, however.

[Gumidrop]

I prefer anime because they have really good drawings and intresting stories while cartoons try to be funny.

[FoxHound!]

Anime has some of the worst drawings!
Old cartoons set the grounds for a lot of humor these days, weather you want to admit it or not.

The Humor could be a lot worse, like they could have big heads and sweat drops when something is supposed to make the audience laugh but doesn't.

[Shiraishi]

Anime looks way better than old cartoons :/ I would compare them but I dislike old anime so I'd do a bad job. Slapstick is inexplicable FAIL. I'll stick to my Lucky Star, thanks.

[FoxHound!]

http://anime.mikomi.org/images/sized/400/600/502.jpg
WOAH YEAH I COMPLETELY SEE HOW THAT IS BETTER DRAWN!!!!!!!!!
Srsly older anime is better drawn, look at Fist of North Star and Dragonball. Today has a load of bull, things like Bleach and Cowboy Bebop are drawn well, but a lot of others aren't. So you don't like Tom and Jerry, looney Toons or Popeye at all?

[!gnition]

Anime.

Better animation, and the plots are interesting and usually well thought out :)

[Shiraishi]

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x102/PikoHammer/haruhi.jpg

This is new. Yet still awesome :/ As a little kid, I actually prefered Digimon to Looney Tunes. Digimon had a nice lilttle adventure(even though it sucks..) but that fact that every ep was a continuation got me hooked.

[FoxHound!]

Where are her teeth?
I hardly see how that is better drawn than most Western cartoons to be honest =/

[Te-em]

I like Japanese anime most, but still my favorite movie is Heavy Metal (not Japanese), it's the most well-done animated movie ever. It's sad, I think western cartoons will die out in the future. Anime will remain, though.

[Ryoutarou]

Where are her teeth?
I hardly see how that is better drawn than most Western cartoons to be honest =/


Better coloring, shadowing and light control? I don't really like Haruhi, but I will admit that it had some very impressive animation, most of the time anyway. Just because teeth aren't shown doesn't mean it's drawn any worse, it's just the style that people are used to in Japan.

[Jack O'Neill]

In this day and age, animation in general is a failing medium of expression on both sides of the Pacific. Between the poorly drawn and plotless pablum of the United States and the poorly plotted, style-over-substance visual extravaganzas of Japan, it really is quite easy to be dissatisfied with both industries.

For every Haruhi, Code Geass, or Gurren Lagann, you get a hundred nondescript titles. For every Futurama or Invader Zim, you get most of the detritus that airs on Cartoon Network during daylight hours. Truly disgusting.

[Soma Peries]

For every season of anime, there are two or three good titles, and then like 5-15 pieces of crap that come up along with it. That's how it's been for a while now, anyways. Like Jack said, the same can be said about American animation. In the end, I would still concur that anime is superior, mostly because 90-95% of anime has an actual consistant PLOT, which a lot of American animation, classic or not, seems to lack. How often do you see an American cartoon with good plot, characters, and continuity? Not that often, I can tell you that much.

Anime has some of the worst drawings!
Old cartoons set the grounds for a lot of humor these days, weather you want to admit it or not.

The Humor could be a lot worse, like they could have big heads and sweat drops when something is supposed to make the audience laugh but doesn't.

Have you watched older cartoons lately? Some of the facial expressions and crap they have is a lot worse than the big heads and sweat drops. Most anime rely on PLOT, not HUMOR, so stop trying to compare the plotless trash that is old cartoons to anime.

Also, anyone who thinks "older cartoons set the grounds for humor these days" is pretty naive. Dropping anvils on animals isn't exactly funny anymore. Humor these days seems to rely a lot more on mocking modern society, really. But hey, what you find funny may be different than what I find funny.

Where are her teeth?
I hardly see how that is better drawn than most Western cartoons to be honest =/

Why does Popeye have inhuman arms? Since when do mice and cats walk on two legs? Your logic is once again flawed. Haruhi has some of the best animation out there, much better than even modern American animation.

[Harpuia]

well actually since when did people have eyes the size of base balls!?! (especially Japanese people!)

[Ryoutarou]

In the end, I would still concur that anime is superior, mostly because 90-95% of anime has an actual consistant PLOT, which a lot of American animation, classic or not, seems to lack. How often do you see an American cartoon with good plot, characters, and continuity? Not that often, I can tell you that much.But why does something need an ongoing plot to be enjoyable? Have you ever seen Shin-chan? Or Sazae-san? Or any of the Lupin and Doraemon stuff? They're some of the most popular and long lasting anime in Japan, yet none of them really have a long lasting plot. And comparing all genres as the same is also a mistake. Look at classic American animation, how much of it is serious and how much of it is comedy? The serious stuff was the big budget movies that could afford to be epic. Back when Warner Brothers was in their youth, they couldn't really afford to do much besides shorts of a comedic nature.

Now I'm not saying that plotless fun > plot, but just because something isn't the most life altering dramatic work doesn't mean it's not good. Even GitS didn't have much of a season long plot and it was still an awesome show. A lot of American animation will focus more on character building than season long plots like most anime, doesn't mean one format is better or worse than the other. They're just two different ways of doing things.



Have you watched older cartoons lately? Some of the facial expressions and crap they have is a lot worse than the big heads and sweat drops. Most anime rely on PLOT, not HUMOR, so stop trying to compare the plotless trash that is old cartoons to anime. First, "plotless trash"? Ouch. American animation paved the way for all of the world's animation, many, many, many of the mangaka and directors of the early era in Japan got their inspiration from Disney, Warner Brothers and other American studios. That's something you can't deny. Heck, it's been said Mitsuteru Yokoyama, the father of the freaking magical girl genre was inspired by Snow White. Also, just how many older anime have you seen? Most of them weren't all that great. You had things like Astroboy, yeah, but even that was crudely animated, and I'm not talking about its style, the animation quality just wasn't good.

Most anime rely on PLOT, not HUMOR,Um, so? Most anime is trash. Sure, you have good shows out there, but most of it is cheaply made, wannabe existentialistic NGE-copying crap. The anime that stand out are few and far between. That's why, even in Japan, anime is seen as a medium that's lost its glory in the TV format because of how quickly in can be made. That's why animators get paid jack-squat compared to animators from overseas, their work isn't valued because most of it is rushed. That's why the MBS/TBS 18:00 block isn't the once coveted time slot it used to be for anime.

There are 27 new anime premiering in Japan this season. How many of them are actually going to be good? 10, at the most. Of those ten, how many of them are going to be something you can watch more than once? 2, 3, if that. This also goes back to something you said earlier, how many American cartoons have good plot, characters and continuity compared to anime, not many. But you also have to look at just how much anime is pumped out in Japan. Most of it isn't made for quality, it's made to cater to the otaku who will forgo buying food so they can get the latest anime PVC figure. Japan is a much more commercialized place than people think it is.

Also, anyone who thinks "older cartoons set the grounds for humor these days" is pretty naive. Dropping anvils on animals isn't exactly funny anymore. Humor these days seems to rely a lot more on mocking modern society, really. But hey, what you find funny may be different than what I find funny.Is that why a lot of anime relies on a lot of those wild body movements and jokes that you know 90% of non-Japanese kids watching don't understand? But I guess it's better than the potty humor that a lot of shows in the US rely on, but anime humor is much more closely related to the extravagant movements seen in the older US stuff.

And just in case it's been lost, there's been a lot more anime I've enjoyed than US animation. But that's after the entire history of the genre is complicated, that's thousands and thousands of shows, most of which suck, to put it bluntly.

[FoxHound!]

For every season of anime, there are two or three good titles, and then like 5-15 pieces of crap that come up along with it. That's how it's been for a while now, anyways. Like Jack said, the same can be said about American animation. In the end, I would still concur that anime is superior, mostly because 90-95% of anime has an actual consistant PLOT, which a lot of American animation, classic or not, seems to lack. How often do you see an American cartoon with good plot, characters, and continuity? Not that often, I can tell you that much.



Have you watched older cartoons lately? Some of the facial expressions and crap they have is a lot worse than the big heads and sweat drops. Most anime rely on PLOT, not HUMOR, so stop trying to compare the plotless trash that is old cartoons to anime.

Also, anyone who thinks "older cartoons set the grounds for humor these days" is pretty naive. Dropping anvils on animals isn't exactly funny anymore. Humor these days seems to rely a lot more on mocking modern society, really. But hey, what you find funny may be different than what I find funny.



Why does Popeye have inhuman arms? Since when do mice and cats walk on two legs? Your logic is once again flawed. Haruhi has some of the best animation out there, much better than even modern American animation.

Popeye's big arms are a play on muscles. I watch older cartoons all the time. I fail to see many problems in facial expressions.

Dunlop has just backed one of my points up.
And what good is a continuing plot of it gets boring, is cliche and is generally rubbish? Like i dunno...however many series of Pokemon there are now. Or DragonBall as a whole. I think you'll find that they're now more boring and painful to watch than an episode of Tom and Jerry, a timeless classic.

So punching someone in the back of the head so they get a big bump and a plaster is funnier than a cat getting his tail stuck in his own trap than screaming?

[digi-kun]

the main problem with comedy is that once it's used the first few times, it gets overabused to the max, and once it does, it starts getting old. Once you've watched Tom and Jerry enough, you know pretty much everything that happens in it. It's probably just me, but i really can't watch the same episode of tom and jerry more than once, usually i change channels when that happens. For example as much Popeye as i've seen: Opening Sequence, Popeye, the girl, the muscle man, Popeye stands up against muscle man, Popeye is in a disadvantageous position, Spinach, Obliteration. Rinse and repeat for just about every short, different location. No, wait, i'm not saying anime's different, much anime is the same thing with variation, especially with things like romance genres. But then again, that genre is expanded across a series, while otherwise it's every episode. but ya.
As a small note here, that may be why i find South Park more funny than oldies, since the subject matter changes in every episode.

a secondary thing about anime is the fandom around lots of it. Most of the fans for anime love making parodies of it. Watching anime by itself can be boring, watching anime while people are making fun of it at the same time is another thing. which is why i prefer Nicovideo for raws, because Japanese love making jokes out of the smallest things, and most of the time they do, it's funny.

Maybe it's cuz i'm enjoying light humor more these days. Growing tired of the traditional cat and mouse game of violent comedy that happens all the time in those classics. I favor those more relaxed shows with light comedy or shows where you can do a cheer in your mind when something awesome happens, namely Gurren Lagann, or even Akagi, which doesn't even have an action element to it

Oh ya and there's my preference of music, but ya, i'm too lazy to rant anymore

Am i completely against these, do i say they're pointless, no these are still classics in my books. Most of these shows occupied my childhood.
Oh, and good anime really does come to maybe 15-20 good shows out of the maybe 100 per year, usually not even
now feel free to tear this apart

[kohei]

After reading more of FoxHound!'s posts, it just sounds like he has the case of 'moephobia' (which is seen in some Japanese otakus too, mind you).

[Jack O'Neill]

After reading more of FoxHound!'s posts, it just sounds like he has the case of 'moephobia' (which is seen in some Japanese otakus too, mind you).
The only problem is that his case of "moephobia," if it could be called that, also extends to anime that lacks moe elements.

I still stand by my statement that animation is a dying medium on both sides of the Pacific.

[kohei]

The only problem is that his case of "moephobia," if it could be called that, also extends to anime that lacks moe elements.

I still stand by my statement that animation is a dying medium on both sides of the Pacific.
Good point. Hmm, then I guess that he's comparing two mediums/art styles that cannot be really compared then?
After all, both Western and Asian artists start from practicing the human anatomy.
(I know, this is a discussion about animation, but I guess art styles apply in a way.)

[Kirioroshi]

well actually since when did people have eyes the size of base balls!?! (especially Japanese people!)

Don't Be racist.

Classic animation is Boring. I prefer anime because its more colourful =].
Clasic animation is so muted and has no feel.

[Harpuia]

Don't Be racist.

Classic animation is Boring. I prefer anime because its more colourful =].
Clasic animation is so muted and has no feel.hey man I wasn't being racist! its the truth they have small eyes........

[Te-em]

Wasn't it Disney who started drawing large eyes on their characters?

[kohei]

Wasn't it Disney who started drawing large eyes on their characters?
Yup. Then Tezuka got inspired, and the new era of manga started.

[Kirioroshi]

hey man I wasn't being racist! its the truth they have small eyes........

So your saying that i can call a African American person black and not be racist? (using it as an example, i mean no offensive and sorry if you take offense)

Anyway Asian's don't have small eyes. It's just everyone else has large eyes.

Lets say everyone in the world became abnormal, but 1000 people remained the same. Now everyone is normal but the 1000 people are considered to be abnormal.

so basically the majority group becomes the norm.

So in this world there are 6.6 billion people. 3.7 of which are Asians. being the majority group we are 'considered' to be the norm. So that means everyone else who doesn't have eyes like ours, it means your eyes are abnormally large.

Anyway an adult humans eyes are about the same size eyes. Asian's have a epicanthic eye fold which makes their eyes appear smaller.


Anyway Anime and Manga use Big eyes because it shows expression much more easier than classic animations. But i think someone has mentioned it earlier.

[Virtual Chatot]

So your saying that i can call a African American person black and not be racist? (using it as an example, i mean no offensive and sorry if you take offense)

This generation African Americans want to be called Black now.

Disney started the Large eyes in Retro animations with Steamboat Willy. Before then, all Retro cartoons had small Retro eyes, but large cuddly eyes were more attractive.

Bow to me and my knowledge of Archaic Cartoons!

[Harpuia]

So your saying that i can call a African American person black and not be racist? (using it as an example, i mean no offensive and sorry if you take offense)

Anyway Asian's don't have small eyes. It's just everyone else has large eyes.

Lets say everyone in the world became abnormal, but 1000 people remained the same. Now everyone is normal but the 1000 people are considered to be abnormal.

so basically the majority group becomes the norm.

So in this world there are 6.6 billion people. 3.7 of which are Asians. being the majority group we are 'considered' to be the norm. So that means everyone else who doesn't have eyes like ours, it means your eyes are abnormally large.

Anyway an adult humans eyes are about the same size eyes. Asian's have a epicanthic eye fold which makes their eyes appear smaller.


Anyway Anime and Manga use Big eyes because it shows expression much more easier than classic animations. But i think someone has mentioned it earlier.I never said they were different and I never said that americans are normal stop putting words in my mouth! every race have there own physical features,and yes if you were to call an african american black it wouldn't be racist! its the same thing as calling an American white.

[FoxHound!]

So your saying that i can call a African American person black and not be racist? (using it as an example, i mean no offensive and sorry if you take offense)

Anyway Asian's don't have small eyes. It's just everyone else has large eyes.

Lets say everyone in the world became abnormal, but 1000 people remained the same. Now everyone is normal but the 1000 people are considered to be abnormal.

so basically the majority group becomes the norm.

So in this world there are 6.6 billion people. 3.7 of which are Asians. being the majority group we are 'considered' to be the norm. So that means everyone else who doesn't have eyes like ours, it means your eyes are abnormally large.

Anyway an adult humans eyes are about the same size eyes. Asian's have a epicanthic eye fold which makes their eyes appear smaller.


Anyway Anime and Manga use Big eyes because it shows expression much more easier than classic animations. But i think someone has mentioned it earlier.
Why the hell are you turning this topic into a pile of Political correctness horse crap?

And how does classic animation have no feel to it? So you never sang to the Jungle Book as a child? Or laughed at Tom and Jerry?

And for the record, does me calling Anglo English white make me a racist? Of course not, same goes to the Afro American community being black.

I have a question, what in the name of Jesus is 'Moephobia'?

[digi-kun]

ya, i'll let someone else describe moephobia >>

And how does classic animation have no feel to it? So you never sang to the Jungle Book as a child? Or laughed at Tom and Jerry?
i honestly never did sing to any of the musicals XD laughing to what's meant to be a comedy in the first place is kinda obvious. though I'm pretty sure i've never cried because of any sort of animation until i watched AIR

[Kirioroshi]

Nah i never sang to jungle book. nor laughed at Tom and Jerry, i found it too predictable.

[Harpuia]

tom and jerry was awesome! but I hated all those stupid musicals...........

[kohei]

I have a question, what in the name of Jesus is 'Moephobia'?
Sauce 1 (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%90%8C%E3%81%88%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%93%E3%82%A2) and Sauce 2 (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/keyword/%CB%A8%A4%A8%A5%D5%A5%A9%A5%D3%A5%A2).

Moephobia is a word created by the manga-critic, Itou Go.
People who are moephobic hold strong disgust/dislike towards "moe" and "moe-art" (ie. modern anime style) in general.

1. A dislike towards the notion of the word, "moe" itself. Itou suggests that this occurs, as the "moe" and "moe art" is now abundant in both "art and literature" and "children and adults", two frames that are basis of modern culture.
Hence, this example of moephobia points towards irrational hatred from the general impression of "moe", and the art style.

2. The argument of "moe = pedophilia". As media forms now try to generate "moe" intentionally, because of this there is an impression that moe is lowbrow and sexual.
Common arguments are: "Moe is sexual harassment", "Moe leads to sex crimes".
This argument comes from the fact that most "moe-art" makes the character look young, and have child-like qualities. Outside Japan, some media forms that depict characters in the moe-style are classified as child pornography.

3. Some otakus are not interested in moe. Therefore, hold strong hatred to "moe" that is target by the mass media frequently, as the media looks at otakus as a large demographic instead of small groups of otakus with interests in different things.
This is especially so when the mass media portrays otakus as "potential sexual predators that prey on children".
This has become a frequent problem, especially after the "Miyazaki Otaku Murder" case.

4. The impression that people get from arguments that try to censor "moe", which always includes: "Bad influence on children", "Trigger for sex crimes" and "Moe is a justification of sexual harassment".
Because of this common argument and the fact that the mass media broadcasts this, people that are not exposed to moe and moe-art develop a sense that moe and moe-art is not "serious" and "normal", therefore holding unjustified feelings of hatred toward the notion.


Small edit: As a note, you may have guessed it but I'm Japanese. Because of this I've been exposed to more anime than American animation.
It has sort of changed ever since I've came to Hong Kong and watched some American animation they have on TV here, but the I still lean towards anime.
After all, I cannot argue against a media form I've been exposed so little to.

[FoxHound!]

Nah i never sang to jungle book. nor laughed at Tom and Jerry, i found it too predictable.
You're like 12, so you weren't even born when cartoons were great.
You didn't like it because it was predictable, but anime is generally just as predictable.

[Shiraishi]

It's not that hard to watch old cartoons on Boomerang >_> Death Note is totally predictable <_<

[Ryoutarou]

Not really. It doesn't follow too many well known standards, especially for a shounen product. Considering what happens around the middle and how the series ends, I don't see how it's all that predictable.

[Kirioroshi]

You're like 12, so you weren't even born when cartoons were great.

I could be 12 years old or I could be a 50 year old ped. Its the internet, i can anything i want.

So anyway, tell me why you dislike anime?

Btw would you say The Simpson's falls in the category of classic animation?

[FoxHound!]

The Simpsons never hit our screens to the 80s, and it was a very different show to what it is today. So no, it's not a classic.

Have you not read the past half a page? because it says the numerous reasons why I dislike anime in comparison to Classic animation.

[Kirioroshi]

Well from what i see, you don't seem to like the way its drawn. Its anatomy is rubbish.

So what about the Flintstones Family? its anatomy is rubbish. Fred's only about 3 heads high. ZOMG RUBBISH ANATOMY!!

Leaving out everything apart from the visual, i would say anime is much better than classic animation. Anime is colored much better than classic animation. Classic animations seems to use only single colours to show skin or jeans. Anime however uses different shades of that colour to show form. Heck, it even has better detail than classic animation.

[Pkmn_knight]

Since when has Classic Animation only been from America?
And I like both But if i want comedy i prefer witty jokes and toilet humor instead of hit the guy , hit the other guy.

Though i must say i liked the old betty boop Show.

[Shiraishi]

Not really. It doesn't follow too many well known standards, especially for a shounen product. Considering what happens around the middle and how the series ends, I don't see how it's all that predictable.

That was sarcasm =[ I love Death Note and I'm aware thats it's unique.

[kohei]

Well from what i see, you don't seem to like the way its drawn. Its anatomy is rubbish.

So what about the Flintstones Family? its anatomy is rubbish. Fred's only about 3 heads high. ZOMG RUBBISH ANATOMY!!
He argues that Popeye is the art of exaggeration, while anime has crap anatomy, despite the "anime style" being the fruit of exaggerating desirable bodily features (like large eyes etc).