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A Pixy
December 10th, 2008, 09:21 AM
We know, Sega's screwed up the hedgehog's name pretty bad. Mostly with 06 and a lot of people were mad with the were-hog. This is what SEGA should do to make a half-decent Sonic game. We need an 8 at least if the hedghog wants to live on. This is," How SEGA can make a GOOD Sonic the Hedgehog game!"

1- Get Rid of the Humans

Not the supporting cast, I like every character there is just get rid of the humans. The only humans that belong in the Sonic universe are Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik, Dr. Gerald "Robutnik" Robotnik and maybe Maria. Elise and all those random people need to pick their buts and head back to Final Fantasy where they belong! If you want Sonic to have a romantic relasion ship could you at least make it with Amy? She's been trying to get Sonic for what, Fifteen Years? She deserves him more than some girl Sonic just met.

2- Stop Adding Members to the Cast (unless they are only for one or two games)

We have more than enough characters. I'm not saying we need to ditch them, I'm just saying we have enough. Silver himself was kinda pushing it already and they Chaotix could be brought back for another game if they need more characters. Just recycle some characters we don't need or want anymore

3- Take a the GOOD Things from Sonic Adventure, Adventure 2 and Heroes

Adventure was great, Adventure 2 was great, Heroes was kinda weird but still great. Sonic just screwed up in 06 (my opinion, I hated that game). Take the good controls and the dazzle of Sonic atmosphere from Adventure. Bring that pure speed and story from Adventure 2 and that non stop and humanless action from Heroes. That's all I truly ask.

4- Sonic Needs to go FAST!!

That's it. He just needs to go fast. He needs to use that Hedgehog engine to go FAST!! We want him to go FAST!! That's what made him unique!!

5- Quit expairementing SEGA, it's ruining him!

Every single character expairement SEGA has ever had (except Shadow and Rouge) has failed EPICLY!! Elise was an expairement and she failed. The were-hog was an expairement and it failed. What are they gonna do next? I don't even want to think about it! The FLUDD in Mario Sunshine was an expairement and it passed with flying colours and right into Brawl! Because it never defeated the whole purpose of Mario. It made him jump higher and therefore it passed. The Ring Boost was also an expairement in Sonic Rush and it passed because it made Sonic go faster. If your going to expairement, don't make it defeat the whole purpose of Sonic.

6- Perfect and Stick with Sonic's Design

Sonic has only had his design perfected in the Adventure series, Sonic Chronicles and Sonic X. Round belly is all we ask and make him 3 feet Tall. We Sonic short (or at least I do) and his limbs fairly long. Not human-like in the least.

7 (just something I'd like)- Chao Garden
CHAO'S ARE SO CUTE!! They're the cutest things ever and truly belong in the Sonic universe. So just throw in a Chao garden, I wanna breed, raise and show off my Chao!


This is my opinion. Five ways SEGA can pull Sonic out the mud puddle he's in right now. Don't agree, tell me what I did wrong. Did I miss something? Tell me in the comments. I want the Hedgehog to live on. I grew up on blue Hedgehog. And he deserves to be up there right next to Mario! SEGA, QUIT SCREWING UP SONIC'S NAME!!

wakachamo
December 10th, 2008, 12:56 PM
The Sonic franchise just needs to die, IMO. :[

I'm not trolling or anything, I'm being honest. It's gone way too far.

TRIFORCE89
December 10th, 2008, 05:32 PM
There was more to Sonic than speed. Those old games are platformers - the speed required you to think on your feet and stay alert. Its more than a run-fest

Gumball Watterson
December 10th, 2008, 07:01 PM
I have no comment. I am neutral in where the Sega franchise is.

I mean, it's not bad, but not good either. I thought Sonic was about speed. But the werehog simply ruined it in SU.

If they make a decent game were Rose finally harrases and maybe does on Sonic I'd be a happy man.

Jone_Smith
December 10th, 2008, 07:44 PM
How about

Stop adding stupid things?
Werehog was good for me, but i was like "this is going to suck, just because of him, right!?" but no.. he just got past. i found it fun. that is all i have to say.

POKEARC3NCIEL
December 10th, 2008, 09:29 PM
Im sure Sonic has lost against Mario in their pwnage fight of mascottish brawlness.
Sonic.... die.

.:Kanto:.
December 10th, 2008, 09:56 PM
I just wish they would bring back classic characters like Mighty and Ray. They were awsome.

Jayster23
December 10th, 2008, 10:06 PM
in my opinion.

Destroy characters that sucked.

no more adding characters and forms unless they know that they will sell big.

Bring back the classics like Chao Garden and stuff like that

spike6958
December 11th, 2008, 04:52 PM
They also need to go back to calling Eggman, Robotnik, because Eggman is a stupid name and ruins the charater, they also need to remove charaters that where not in the original games (Sonic,Sonic2,Sonic3,Sonic and Knuckels), maybe keep Shadow as a boss though not a playable charater, the games should be like New Super Mario Bros, 3D-ish 2D.

CP3
December 11th, 2008, 06:00 PM
Hmph, I saw a VERY similar list like this on ign.

TRIFORCE89
December 11th, 2008, 06:51 PM
They also need to go back to calling Eggman, Robotnik, because Eggman is a stupid name and ruins the charater, they also need to remove charaters that where not in the original games (Sonic,Sonic2,Sonic3,Sonic and Knuckels), maybe keep Shadow as a boss though not a playable charater, the games should be like New Super Mario Bros, 3D-ish 2D.
But....his name is Eggman. Robotnik was something Sega of America came up with, but he was always Eggman in Japan. The just randomly decided to start calling him by his actual name here one day.

Just like how Princess Peach has always been Princess Peach in Japan. But Nintendo of America called her Princess Toadstool and then one day they started calling Peach, like Japan.

spike6958
December 12th, 2008, 12:11 PM
But....his name is Eggman. Robotnik was something Sega of America came up with, but he was always Eggman in Japan. The just randomly decided to start calling him by his actual name here one day.

Just like how Princess Peach has always been Princess Peach in Japan. But Nintendo of America called her Princess Toadstool and then one day they started calling Peach, like Japan.

Not true, Ivo Robotnik is his Real name, Eggman is a nickname given to him by Sonic and Tails because of his shape, which ended up sticking with him in later games, but his real name is still Ivo Robotnik.

シーツー
December 12th, 2008, 12:37 PM
Cadet Falcon, I absolutely agree with you!

Especially with the character and chao thing! They really should bring back Team Chaotix. They were awesome and I was so happy when they appeared in Sonic Heroes again. We don't need Silver, Jet and whatever the stupid chars are called.

I dunno how many hours I spent in the Chao Garden on Sonic Adventure 2. (Also on SA)
Such a great idea and I dont understand Sega why they didnt bring them back. I know almost everyone loved them.

I actually got back into Sonic just a few months ago. I had been a Sonic fan since Sonic 2 on Genesis but Shadow the Hedgehog put me off.
I think that was the very first game they really screwed up. I couldnt believe how much Shadow had changed from SA2 til StH.
I havent played Sonic Unleashed yet but the werehog thing doesnt appeal to me.

Sonic Chronicles was kinda good though. But it wasnt created by Sega lol

In the end all I can say is that Sega fairly did anything wrong.

Cheesymitten
December 12th, 2008, 12:50 PM
Get the old guy who did sonic's voice back, also tails needs to grow up a bit, and yes PLEASE SEGA bring back the chao garden.....and the prinipale with the fake tash

sonicisrad
December 12th, 2008, 05:09 PM
Sonic will never die!!!

Anyway, I reckon Sonic should take a page out of New Super Mario Bros, and revisit the old, and good, Sonic games, mainly Sonic 2 as it was the best, or even Sonic and Knux but add a few new faces, Shadow, Tails, Amy, Chaotix, Blaze, but not Silver.

Sonic was saved because of SSBB i reckon, that is the only reason he is staying put on Nintendo's turf I believe, hopefully Sonic can recover from SU and make an impact for the 2nd Coming, and Hopefully the new Sonic, Sonic and the Black Knight.

Crimson Arcanine
December 12th, 2008, 07:32 PM
Sonic won't die, being Sega's "mascot" character they'll go to a lot to keep the blue hedgehog running.

Sounds like they're getting desperate however. But I wouldn't know either.

Eternal Nightmare
December 15th, 2008, 07:09 AM
Yeah, Sonic is not going to be going anywhere, well at least untill Mario dies XD.

Anyway, I think sonic needs to go back to his days as a platformer, like Mario. However, I like the ideas of "Adventure," but wheres all the jumping and such.

Sonics design - i think they should continue using his Unleashed design because it gives him that anime edge as opposed to 06 where he looked to real.

Keep it cartoony - Many of the past Sonic games were way to serious and then unleashed reintroduced us back to the cartoony style of Sonic and thats all I want.

Well I want some of the humans to go, but then again they are on Earth so there has to be humans present. I just dont like how they introduce humans into the main cast
e.g Elise and Prof Pickle.
The only real human in the cast should be Eggman.

BakingBluePotatoe
December 15th, 2008, 08:11 AM
Squirtle;4185621']I just wish they would bring back classic characters like Mighty and Ray. They were awsome.

Hell yeah.

Stop introducing new characters. It's stupid.
Bring back oldies!

Now, if you guys insist on making new characters, make it good! (Blaze. That was actually a somewhat decent character!)




And as everyone said, BRING BACK THE CHAO GARDEN!
Okay, at least you can collect, trade, and use Chao in Chronicles......... but it's not the same >.>
I want the Chao Gardens back! >.<

Nuke
December 15th, 2008, 08:18 AM
We know, Sega's screwed up the hedgehog's name pretty bad. Mostly with 06 and a lot of people were mad with the were-hog. This is what SEGA should do to make a half-decent Sonic game. We need an 8 at least if the hedghog wants to live on. This is," How SEGA can make a GOOD Sonic the Hedgehog game!"

1- Get Rid of the Humans


*Stops reading and kills self*

You said get rid of the humans, right?

Anyway,
I say only use original characters and Shadow from now on unless they have some bizarre party game.

They should include Super Sonic less and find a new enemy for Sonic.

Gunn
December 15th, 2008, 08:48 AM
Wow, I agree with everything you said.

But.

It sounds to me that you want another SA2:B, which was probably the best Sonic game in the 3D generation.

Pillage
December 15th, 2008, 11:35 AM
Sonic + Dr. Robotnik + Speed = Great Sonic game

When will Sega realize this?

Banjora Marxvile
December 15th, 2008, 11:46 AM
My opinion to add. Less using Eggman for comedy and being betrayed. It seems Eggman isn't the main villain anymore... He should be Final Boss and every boss on his own again, or at least sometimes. Not replaced by Metal Sonic, or betrayed by Chaos, BioLizard (didn't betray, but counts), Gemerl I think...

Jeremy
December 15th, 2008, 12:43 PM
Well sweeties, in my personal opinion the only way Sonic the Hedgehog's home console games can surpass his levels of mediocre adequacy is to get back to the basics.

Focus on gameplay and the level design.

That's the most important factor to save Sonic. The misconception of Sonic is all about speed is one of things hindering new Sonic games to reach their full potential.

Now for my personal things they need to do:

Get rid of all the "other characters".
Back in my day, it was just Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, and Dr. Robotnik/Eggman. (Yes I'm ignoring everybody from Knuckles Chaotic.)

Keep the story to the point; defeat Dr. Robotnik.
I don't need to know, or care what happens in between.

No voice acting.
Pretty please? =D

Fix the camera in 3D Sonic games.
Nuff said, sweeties.

Dillman
December 15th, 2008, 12:51 PM
in simple words why not just make a sonic adventure 3. And yes! bring the chao garden back, for me that was the best bit!

Pillage
December 15th, 2008, 08:13 PM
No voice acting.
Pretty please? =D
Oh god yes, Sonic sounds like a lame sitcom skater kid from the 90's.

I won't mind Dr. Robotnik talking but just let it be just him and nobody else.

Gunn
December 15th, 2008, 10:52 PM
Oh god yes, Sonic sounds like a lame sitcom skater kid from the 90's.

That is so true that its pretty annoying. I didn't mind it in SA because well, I guess it didn't bother me. Then all of a sudden his VA was changed and he sounded like he was being sarcastic all the time. Take the game Shadow the Hedgehog for example; it's one of the reasons I quit playing that one. Everyone is better off with some duct tape slapped across their mouths.

A Pixy
December 16th, 2008, 09:12 AM
Wow, I agree with everything you said.

But.

It sounds to me that you want another SA2:B, which was probably the best Sonic game in the 3D generation.

I must admit, SA2 was incredible but to be honest, Heroes was my favorite Sonic game. It got back to the basics and added a twist. The music was great (Seaside Hill, especially) and it had a format similiar to the genesis games.

Genesis Games:
Zone 1, Act 1, Act 2, Boss, Zone 2, Act 1, Act 2, Boss...
Heroes
Zone 1, Act 1, Act 2, Boss, Cutscene, Zone 2, Act 1, Act 2, Boss, Cutscene...

Do you catch my drift. The first 3 Sonic 3D games were great like I said, but Heroes will always stand out in my mind (plus it had a moral!)!

El Gofre
December 17th, 2008, 02:52 PM
Sonic will only be good again when he goes back to being a good ol'fashioned 2D platformer, I've found most of the 3D ones abysmal because sega think we want things like random charctors and god-aweful plot lines, which we don't. Give me sonic advance and the like and I'm happy, I'll play sonic heroes at a push.

Jayster23
December 26th, 2008, 02:27 AM
Sonic unleashed is awesome! i have no problems with it but the werehog is really slow Sonic is surposed to be about speed. Sonic= Super sonic speed=speed of light

Fox♠
December 26th, 2008, 04:51 PM
Im sure Sonic has lost against Mario in their pwnage fight of mascottish brawlness.
Sonic.... die.

Mario is really appalling too. Best case scenario is both die and never, ever come back.

I have a few tips on how to make a good sonic game.

1) Sonic 3 on Megadrive
2) Never make another sonic
3) pretend anything after adventure never, ever happened.
4)????
5)Profit!!

Jayster23
December 26th, 2008, 08:23 PM
Your an A*** what does everyone have against Sonic if your not a fan of it why even play it. i'm sure Sega are doing there best and it's not only my opinion but most Sonic games are great except 06' thats the only one that they stuffed up

Fox♠
December 27th, 2008, 04:05 PM
Please do not flame me like the over obsessed fanboy you are.

Sonic Adventure 2, SHadow the Hedgehog, Sonic Heroes, Sonic 06, sonic and the rings, sonic unleahed, Sonic DS (the name escapes me) and Sonic Chronicles are all god awful games that have destroyed a firm childhood favorite of mine.

Now run along, I am sure another poor cross over is being released and I know you are absolutely dying to buy it.

Jayster23
December 27th, 2008, 11:22 PM
Sonic Adventure 2 was the best Game ever created in the sonic series. The secret rings is also another one i forgot about which they stuffed up.

Yes i am a fan boy and i'm proud to be one.

all they need to do is bring back the chao garden and make Sonic stick with speed and there you go the perfect Sonic game

Fox♠
December 28th, 2008, 03:00 PM
Sonic Adventure 2 was the best Game ever created in the sonic series. The secret rings is also another one i forgot about which they stuffed up.

Yes i am a fan boy and i'm proud to be one.

all they need to do is bring back the chao garden and make Sonic stick with speed and there you go the perfect Sonic game

No, what you have there is a half cooked probably going to be bad Sonic game.

I have being playing Sonic games since I was 7. That's 11 years, and I can easily say it;s time to let the franchise die.

Ausaudriel
December 29th, 2008, 12:03 AM
Your an A*** what does everyone have against Sonic if your not a fan of it why even play it. i'm sure Sega are doing there best and it's not only my opinion but most Sonic games are great except 06' thats the only one that they stuffed up
I know it's a couple of days late, but you really need to be more respectful when you're talking to people here. :/ It's fine to defend your opinion strongly, but name calling isn't going to help anything. Next time it happens you'll get a warning.