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~NeOn~
September 23rd, 2009, 11:43 AM
Hello guys!
I'm trying to make a hack but I'm not sure on what rom base I use. Ruby or Fire Red?
I wanted to know their opinions. And the advantage of each rom.

I hope you all give opinions!

*If this topic is not here please move to the right place.

The Prince of Sweet Sorrow
September 24th, 2009, 08:53 AM
This is the right section for this topic.
I'll tell you the advatages of each rom base, so you can use whichever you want, i won't push you.
Ruby's easier to hack, it has more features like better HMs, desert tiles, etc.

Fire Red has better graphics, its more stable, and it has better pallets. >> This is just my opinion, maybe other people dont agree.

NarutoActor
September 24th, 2009, 02:58 PM
ehh no rom is unstable

ruby
more overworld sprites
HM dive
dive tiles animation sprite
contests

firered
more tool compatiblitys
better tiles
more maps
more worldmaps
better intro sprites
better credits

Ninja Caterpie
September 24th, 2009, 11:50 PM
its more stable,

lololol more stable.

No Advance Gen Pokemon ROM is stable or unstable, it's the tools that are stable and/or unstable. And the only ones you really need are AdvanceMap (which is perfect), XSE (which is perfect) and universal tools like graphic editors.

OT: Why not Emerald, ah?

maybe i shouldn't give myself too much competition with this...

colcolstyles
September 25th, 2009, 03:54 PM
Ruby's easier to hackWhy? How is it any easier to hack then any other advance generation ROM?
it has more features like better HMs
That's subjective.
desert tiles
Tiles can be changed adequately and equally in all 3rd generation Pokémon ROMs.
Fire Red has better graphics
Again, these can be changed.
it has better pallets.
Changeable.
its more stable
Rage.....building....

Argument = bwoken :(

Banjora Marxvile
September 26th, 2009, 05:00 AM
Both have strengths and weaknesses. Ruby has Day and Night, Firered has... I think Level Scripts, not sure.

Either way, it is up to you, as both are nearly identical, and can be hacked to look similar.

mervyn797
September 26th, 2009, 05:19 AM
its just the "tool factor" some tools mess up R/S/E terribly.

NatureKeeper
September 26th, 2009, 11:28 AM
Why? How is it any easier to hack then any other advance generation ROM?

That's subjective.

Tiles can be changed adequately and equally in all 3rd generation Pokémon ROMs.

Again, these can be changed.

Changeable.

Rage.....building....

Argument = bwoken :(

Agreement. :)

Both have strengths and weaknesses. Ruby has Day and Night, Firered has... I think Level Scripts, not sure.

Either way, it is up to you, as both are nearly identical, and can be hacked to look similar.

Level Scripts are also in ruby. FireRed has a major weakness.

lololol more stable.

No Advance Gen Pokemon ROM is stable or unstable, it's the tools that are stable and/or unstable. And the only ones you really need are AdvanceMap (which is perfect), XSE (which is perfect) and universal tools like graphic editors.

OT: Why not Emerald, ah?

maybe i shouldn't give myself too much competition with this...
I agree with that point. And nothing's perfect. Advance Map destroys my ROM sometimes. So does XSE.

ehh no rom is unstable

ruby
more overworld sprites
HM dive
dive tiles animation sprite
contests

firered
more tool compatiblitys
better tiles
more maps
more worldmaps
better intro sprites
better credits

You do recognize that in firered if to much events in a map are stuck near to each other the game overloads and restarts...

Satoshi Ookami
September 26th, 2009, 10:44 PM
Ruby... more OWs, imo better tiles and possibility to include contest in game...
(ironical since I'm hacking Fire Red xD)

Zeffy
September 27th, 2009, 04:30 AM
Eh, its up to you. Me personally I'm thinking of Ruby, since it has more OWs than FR.

Spherical Ice
September 27th, 2009, 04:35 AM
Eh, its up to you. Me personally I'm thinking of Ruby, since it has more OWs than FR.

Yeah, but JPAN's engine-hack patch allows 60,000+ (or something like that), so that post is invalid.

Anyway, I think that Ruby has Contests, PokéNav, etc. which are all great, but I'm used to FireRed so I'm stayin' FR... for now, at least.

If we're talking the actual game, which we arent', but still, I prefer Ruby by miles. I've played it so many times the internal battery's run dry. =P

Zeffy
September 27th, 2009, 05:17 AM
Yeah, but JPAN's engine-hack patch allows 60,000+ (or something like that), so that post is invalid.

Anyway, I think that Ruby has Contests, PokéNav, etc. which are all great, but I'm used to FireRed so I'm stayin' FR... for now, at least.

If we're talking the actual game, which we arent', but still, I prefer Ruby by miles. I've played it so many times the internal battery's run dry. =P

Well, I also prefer FR but I want to use Ruby to have some change.

Vrai
September 27th, 2009, 05:38 AM
You do recognize that in firered if to much events in a map are stuck near to each other the game overloads and restarts...

I've never heard of that happening. Aaaaaand I'm pretty sure the cause of that (if it indeed happened to you) is the result of a faulty movement type, namely one of the "Hidden" ones.

NatureKeeper
September 28th, 2009, 07:58 AM
I've never heard of that happening. Aaaaaand I'm pretty sure the cause of that (if it indeed happened to you) is the result of a faulty movement type, namely one of the "Hidden" ones.

Is hidden the cause? Gosh... Never using it again. :)

Too Bad I stopped my FireRed Project.

dragonarche
September 29th, 2009, 04:56 AM
Hello guys!
I'm trying to make a hack but I'm not sure on what rom base I use. Ruby or Fire Red?
I wanted to know their opinions. And the advantage of each rom.

I hope you all give opinions!

*If this topic is not here please move to the right place.
Pokemon Fire Red cause you can get the hacked engline patch
its in Tool box section :)

Masterge77
September 29th, 2009, 11:16 AM
Ruby, too many people hack FireRed, and it is very much over-hacked

Tropical Sunlight
September 29th, 2009, 10:45 PM
Ruby, too many people hack FireRed, and it is very much over-hacked
Yeah, but if you look in Whack-a-hack (Spanish & Mexican), you'll see everybody there hacks Ruby. Not to mention graphics and tiles are the first thing they change...

NiKaNoRoU
September 29th, 2009, 10:54 PM
Fire Red. I'm just used to it, it has more maps to work on and alter, and the best argument I include is the "tool factor", as mentioned above.

I wanted to know their opinions. And the advantage of each rom.There are no advantages/disadvantages that distinct them. Both FR and Ruby have the same adv/disadv (to my point of view, at least).

All in all, I think that you should work on both ROMs and choose yourself. I think that when you try and work on Ruby and FR afterwards (or the opposite, anyway) you might just like only one of the two. It's a matter of personal taste, really.

Wolfhead
September 30th, 2009, 03:35 AM
I wanted to know their opinions. And the advantage of each rom.
I don't think either of the rom has an advantage over the other but if you are a beginner, I'd suggest you start with FR.
The reason is simple too: Most of the hacks are based on FR. Therefore, it is easier to find support/information if you should require it.
Other than that, you can hack both of the roms to look pretty much identically. (given you know what you're doing, of course)

Regigiygas
October 4th, 2009, 03:49 PM
I don't think either of the rom has an advantage over the other but if you are a beginner, I'd suggest you start with FR.
The reason is simple too: Most of the hacks are based on FR. Therefore, it is easier to find support/information if you should require it.
Other than that, you can hack both of the roms to look pretty much identically. (given you know what you're doing, of course)

It really boils down to that. If you take the road less traveled by, you'll get lost, be afflicted by poison ivy, and trip over tree roots into bogs, et cetera.

ULTRA!£PIC!
December 23rd, 2010, 10:18 AM
why not Leaf Green or Sapphire? let alone Emerald?

SwirlyBirds
December 23rd, 2010, 10:23 AM
why not Leaf Green or Sapphire? let alone Emerald?
For some unknown reason, ruby is more popular than sapphire, and leaf green is considered less stable than fire red.

r0bert
December 23rd, 2010, 10:42 AM
I'm hacking firered now.just because of the help system and teachy TV.
but if I would have the knowledge,I would move to Emerald.

colcolstyles
December 23rd, 2010, 11:10 AM
ULTRA!£PIC!, please don't revive threads that have been dead for over a month.

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