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Chairman Kaga
August 16th, 2005, 07:53 PM
This topic has none of those. Basically, it seems that versus topics are popular here now so I'm giving you one that will actually make you THINK.

If a Kakuna and a Metapod were to battle, which one would defeat the other?

kohei
August 17th, 2005, 01:30 AM
I say Metapod, since I flipped a coin and it was tails.
No good reason, isn't it?

Cybex Mewtwo
August 17th, 2005, 05:12 AM
I'd go for Metapod. I'd throe them like boomerangs, and Metapod will return!

Act
August 17th, 2005, 05:27 AM
Logically, kakuna would. It could poison metapod easily, and metapod (supposedly) can't move.

Charizard_Fire_God
August 17th, 2005, 05:34 AM
*cough*
*clicks the 3rd option*
Hmm... I wonder why I did that...? XD

[Technya]
August 17th, 2005, 05:52 AM
I went for Kakuna.
Why? Don't ask me 'cause I myself don't know o.o

Iveechan
August 17th, 2005, 02:19 PM
Kakuna could poison Metapod, and gets STAB from its move.

Chiru
August 17th, 2005, 02:32 PM
Hm, depends. If they both knew only Harden it would be like that boring Metapod vs Metapod pokemon episode. If they were raised from caterpies/weedles and knew their attacks, Kakuna would win because I'm pretty sure poison sting is supereffective against bug types. Of course, you all know Rayquaza could pwn both of them so hard it isn't even funny.

Random Plushie
August 17th, 2005, 10:10 PM
Technically Kakuna would win with it's Poison Sting. Would take a while if Metapod only used Harden (duh), but resistence would be futile. It would merely be delaying the inevitable. XD

jynx
August 18th, 2005, 12:01 AM
I think its depends on the trainer and the tools used.

Bliksem
August 18th, 2005, 01:42 AM
...No, not really...well, sorta... but not really. A level 100 Metapod would lose to a level seven Kakuna raised from a Weedle due to poison, while a level 7 Metapod would've long struggled itself to death against a level 100 Kakuna. And back in RBY, Poison was supereffective against Bug.

Houndour2005
August 18th, 2005, 02:52 AM
I have voted for Kakuna too.

Missie
August 18th, 2005, 06:49 AM
I voted for Metapod. If you raised a Caterpie from a baby it knows tackle but Weedle only knows posion sting. Posion sting does very little to a shell. Plus now with Ruby and Sapphire Metapod could easily shed it's posion state. But because Metapod has tackle instead Kakuna could not shed that off. Therefore I think Metapod would win.

(this is going by the two being equal levels)

Alter Ego
August 18th, 2005, 08:03 AM
Assuming they both know all moves available to them and are of equal level then I'd say Kakuna due to the poisoning bonus. Although Metapod's 'Shed Skin' trait and, I think, higher attack stat would make it a pretty even match.

Fury of Ninetales
August 18th, 2005, 09:24 AM
i have to go with metapod and missie. metapod's shed skin could get rid of the poison quickly. also, even if kakuna has STAB, poison sting does only 22.5 damage while metapod's tackle does 35 base damage. metapod's base stat HP (50) and defense (55) are higher than kakuna's but kakuna's attack is just 5 higher at 25

Trikip
August 18th, 2005, 09:41 AM
Neither would win. Don't they both just have harden? That's just for defense, so they wouldn't be able to fight.

Alter Ego
August 18th, 2005, 10:04 AM
i have to go with metapod and missie. metapod's shed skin could get rid of the poison quickly. also, even if kakuna has STAB, poison sting does only 22.5 damage while metapod's tackle does 35 base damage. metapod's base stat HP (50) and defense (55) are higher than kakuna's but kakuna's attack is just 5 higher at 25

However, Tackle has 95 accuracy where as Poison Sting has 100. So Metapod could miss. Besides, it wouldn't take many successfull turns of poison to make the necessary difference. Also, ingame stats aren't an accurate measure since pokmon have different DVs, EVs, and natures which affect them.

Fury of Ninetales
August 18th, 2005, 10:18 AM
Neither would win. Don't they both just have harden? That's just for defense, so they wouldn't be able to fight. this thread is talking about a kakuna raised from a weedle and a metapod raised from a caterpie. weedle and caterpie have attacks and since they can learn no TMs or HMs, they are guaranteed an attack that deals damage.
i forgot about the EV, IV, and DV situation. just to sum the battle up so there are no arguments: Rayquaza would win!!! *votes for rayquaza in the poll*

jc_rcw
August 18th, 2005, 01:30 PM
metapod has always been my favorite between metapod and kakuna :) so metapod.

The Fallen
August 19th, 2005, 07:04 AM
Well when I used to face off with them for training my Metapod would always win, but maybe cause he had tackle XD. I still say Metapod though. He's just cooler! XD

ryan
August 19th, 2005, 07:10 AM
ya.. um... to be honest, i didn't think about that whole poison attack thing =/
so i said metapod, mostly just because metapod is waaaayyy cooler in my opinion. i'm still in love with my blue version in which i had issues capturing a kakuna and therefore hate the stupid bug... so, metapod would win because i say it's cooler and if kakuna tried to mess with metapod, i'd freakin' stomp on it's stupid yellow face!

Timbjerr
August 19th, 2005, 12:13 PM
Kakuna for the poison sting arguement...

However throw in the possibility of a couple of String Shots for a more interesting battle...

Imite
August 19th, 2005, 12:41 PM
Win...what?

A Battle in the Game(s) - Eh, probably Kakuna with it's Poison Sting and all that. Assuming they both were raised versus caught. If they were caught, then they'd just harden over and over and struggle themselves to death. Cookies for everyone.

A Beauty Contest in the Game(s) - I gotta say Metapod here, especially if it was raised. String Shot gets more points in contests. Not like either of them would really win a contest, though...

A Battle in the Anime - No one. Team Rocket would attack and steal both of them.

A Beauty Contest in the Anime - Metapod. String shot would win major points for looking pretty, then it would evolve into Butterfree and be loved by all. Even if Kakuna evolved into Beedrill, it'd still lose.

So Metapod wins.

Alter Ego
August 19th, 2005, 01:02 PM
Umm...Kakuna, gets String Shot too you know. The only difference between them, moveset wise, is that Metapod gets Tackle and Kakuna get Poison Sting.

Imite
August 19th, 2005, 02:02 PM
Umm...Kakuna, gets String Shot too you know. The only difference between them, moveset wise, is that Metapod gets Tackle and Kakuna get Poison Sting.
Oro. That's what I get for not playing the game in ages. ^_^;;

::goes to rethink strategy::

Wolf_Goddess
August 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM
Ehehehe, the answer to that question: It depends. If They were like the game and you raised a Caterpie/Weedle and it turned into a Metapod/Kakuna, knowing the moves AND harden, then Kakuna would probably win, due to the fact it knows something that could poison the Metapod and the damage would decrease every turn.

However, if both of them only knew Harden, you would have to wait until they ran out of PP (going by the game) and use Struggle. So that's why...I clicked the third option.
1. For fun
2. Just because.

I think too logically for my own good. Besides, it IS true. He would win if he was somehow brought into this battle.

.::Tsunami::.
August 19th, 2005, 08:18 PM
i'd go for metapod it's evoled and most likely stronger

Chairman Kaga
August 20th, 2005, 09:17 AM
I voted for Metapod simply because of what I've witnessed in the anime. When in mortal danger, a Metapod can summon the strength to fling itself with deadly force at its target, but a Kakuna has yet to prove that it can move any of its appendages at all. Therefore, Metapod lunges at Kakuna, punctures a hole in it, and a gelatinous, half-formed beedrill oozes out of it.

Shame on all of you who chose Rayquaza! That option was obviously a n00b trap >O

dqle
August 21st, 2005, 11:07 AM
Man, all this time and you guys forgot one of the most important factors for extremely weak Pokmon?

Well, I'll get to that in a moment. There are many factors that would determine that battle. As people have said before, it depends on level, nature, and stats. Nowadays, since Poison type moves are now not considered super-effective against Bug type Pokmon, I'd say that Metapod would win. Assuming that both Pokmon have identical stats and/or levels, Metapod's Tackle has a power of 40, whereas Kakuna's Poison Sting has a total power of 22.5 because of it's type combatabilities. Overall, Metapod should do more damage considering that it can outdo Kakuna's attack, even if it misses once or twice. Poison probably wouldn't too much damage to Metapod because of it's Shed Skin ability. Of course, that depends on its level.

Well, besides these two cacoon Pokmon who can't move around much until they evolve, what about Silcoon and Cascoon? Shouldn't they be a part of this?

And why in the world would Team Rocket steal any of them? I'm pretty sure they're not all too interested in Butterfree, had quite enough of Beedril, despise Beautifly because of May's, and they already have a Dustox.

Of course, Metapod's, Kakuna's, Silcoon's, and Cascoon's attacks really, REALLY stink! If you want to quickly determine the winnner of any of those battles, make sure none of them have any PP left in their moves. And when you do battle, then they become quite the battler with Struggle! It's the stongest move any of them can get while in their hardened state! The battle should go rather quickly, so it's very easy to determine who'd win! (I wouldn't know...)

Miss Reyna
August 21st, 2005, 02:00 PM
Kakuna

It will poison Metapod with Poison Sting which will slowly kill him. Causeing Death, Destruction and Mayham!