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iamback
June 19th, 2006, 10:22 AM
I'm really scared about this. Read the news article in the links below:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/16/world/main1723489.shtml - 2 pages
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13361343/ - 2 pages

So, umm, discuss, I guess...

Chikara
June 19th, 2006, 10:54 AM
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well, thats incredibly mean of North Korea...shame on them! *wacks globe with a stick*

Himawarii
June 19th, 2006, 11:01 AM
I can't blame you for being scared..you live in Cali,which is like,bordering the Pacific Ocean!

I'm sure there'll be some solution..hopefully ~_~

DragonMaster Azyo
June 19th, 2006, 11:02 AM
North Korea is soooo uncool. Why are the communist nations always so irrational and crazy! I have family on the west coast!

Rioku_Zanketa
June 19th, 2006, 11:26 AM
.....that makes me wanna join the army,and go all out war on them...I used to live in S.Korea....I'm glad they're totally diffrent...

parallelzero
June 19th, 2006, 11:39 AM
North Korea is soooo uncool. Why are the communist nations always so irrational and crazy! I have family on the west coast!
Them being communist is completely irrelevant to the subject. I am not communist, nor do I follow communism, but I hate it when people use a nation being communist as reasoning for their actions.

DragonMaster Azyo
June 19th, 2006, 12:01 PM
Well, the Nazis kinda built up the reputation for Communist nations being bad and all. The image of communism is all from the actions of the Nazis.

Samurai X
June 19th, 2006, 12:08 PM
The Nazi government was not communist, even though they were a totalitarian government they were not communist, they had capitalism just like us except that they all followed one leader. They were a fascist government with added prejudice.

On the subject though, this doesn't really scare me although now they could reach us.

~Ozy~
June 19th, 2006, 12:39 PM
There are two simple reasons why North Korea won't use it, assuming that development and production continue.

Reason 1: The USA.
Reason 2: China.

Assuming they launch to wipe out the West Coast, America's nuclear stockpile would swing into action. N. Korea gets royally screwed. Also assuming they watch, the Chinese Army at the LEAST would swarm down the Korean penninsula. Although their govenments are moderately similar, China does NOT want to lose the US as a trading partner. So, they'd willingly screw over N. Korea to keep the US as an economic ally. International politics prevent North Korea from using the missles, assuming they continue the project. This is little but worthless fear-based news.

Well, the Nazis kinda built up the reputation for Communist nations being bad and all. The image of communism is all from the actions of the Nazis.

Nazism/Facism=/=Communism. Indeed, if both systems are carried out perfectly, the two are antithetical. The reason your comparison is anywhere near close is because of soviet Russia, a totalitarian system as well. However, Russia sided against Germany in WWII because: Germany was Fascist.

I also dispute your assertation of Communism as irrational and illogical. Again, when carried out in full (which is, I know full well, entirely impractical), a Communist governemnt exists for two purposes: To equitably distribute wealth and to defend the state. There is no mention of a permanant totalitarian state in any of Marx's works.

Dawg 2005
June 19th, 2006, 01:02 PM
Well if they fire at us, we'll fire back.

Don't we have about 2,500 more nuclear bombs than every other country?

But I seriously think they've gone out of their minds, especially now that it's public.

Krafty Quill
June 19th, 2006, 01:03 PM
Nobody aint going to be firing anything >_>

It's just to get people talking man. I agree with what Ozy said. v_v

Karasuma
June 19th, 2006, 01:06 PM
If North Korea starts this nuclear war, then this will clearly state that World War 3 will begin. After all the USA has more firepower because we have the atomic bomb. This Nuclear bomb is said to be even stronger than the last two atomic bombs we used against Nagasaki & Hiroshima; we're talking about such an incredible power that one bomb can clearly destroy an entire country. They have to think because making another mistake.

Kura
June 19th, 2006, 01:20 PM
I think that if they wanted to bomb the US, they would've done it already. They would've done it at a time when the US was weak (such as when those hurricanes hit.)

oni flygon
June 19th, 2006, 01:45 PM
I dislike it when people run their mouths while being ignorant of the matter... I'm looking at the people who started running their mouths about communism and fascism and all that stuff.

As for now, I'm just putting my blame on the government for this since Bush kept antagonizing these nations and calling them "Axis of Evil" and such. Of course you'll get pissed if you get called that while minding your own business.

Lord Mike
June 19th, 2006, 02:32 PM
Communist countries are power crazy as we all know. China, North Korea, and the old Soviet Union are nations people like us don't like danger from.

I agree that George Bush has to approach this without just simply saying "Terrorism will never stop". He's got to take action. I mean, we already got hurriane season coming and soldiers in Iraq and now we got a bunch Koreans threatening us with some stupid missiles. George Bush has helped this country in some ways, but he can't just say "Oh well, its terrorism". I live in Alabama but I care other Amercans' safety and I don't know how George Bush goes to sleep at night knowing that there could be another attack.

This kind of fits in with my "Are we ever safe?" thread that I made. George Bush is right when he says danger will never cease to exist, but he should be investigating this situation and help our country more. We can't stop all threats, but its better stopping some threats then letting us die and not caring at all.

~Ozy~
June 19th, 2006, 02:40 PM
Except for one thing: North Korea isn't threatening us, at least in any overt or even viable fashion. Nor is North Korea a terrorist nation. Rogue perhaps, but not terrorist.

I also ask you to explain how any nation does not wish for more power. Politics, local, national or international are based upon the want of power for self and for nation. Power-hungry policies are not exclusive to Communist governemnts. If you're speaking of expansionism, nor does Communism have an exclusive majority. In fact, the Soviet Union was the only Communist state to ever actively pursue an expansionist foreign policy. The People's Republic did for a breif period of time as well, however that policy was abandoned.

Chikara
June 20th, 2006, 05:10 AM
But I seriously think they've gone out of their minds, especially now that it's public.

No, they think their big 'n Bad for some reason. Its not that their crazy, they just think their big and important.

I think that they just want to get in on the war cause they have an idea that Iraq might have been right in killing thousands of Americans. Its wierd how they make a bomb thret against the Americans, who have the best army in the world by the way, when they are about to settle a war.

This is why I dont like many other countries. They dont like Americans cause we have money, and they dont. Good god, that a sign to move to america so you wont be dirt poor anymore!

Red530
June 20th, 2006, 06:39 PM
That's really pointless...But everybody hates Americans.

Lord Mike
June 21st, 2006, 03:55 AM
I guess they're probably jealous. :\

ArKiVe
June 21st, 2006, 04:29 AM
I think their just acting out. They want to be noticed. I mean they haven't since Vietnam.

Chikara
June 21st, 2006, 04:41 AM
I think their just acting out. They want to be noticed. I mean they haven't since Vietnam.

which is what Im saying. I think they might have done that to be a part of the war, or for the war to continue so more Americans will die.

...thats really messed up if its true, but what am I talking about? Im just a 14 year old with an idea!

~Ozy~
June 21st, 2006, 07:01 AM
I think their just acting out. They want to be noticed. I mean they haven't since Vietnam.

o.O

North Korea=/=Vietnam.

And no, this isn't a bid for attention. It's a power grab and a none-too-subtle (though entirely impractical and everyone, including Kim Jong Il knows it) threat. North Koreas couldn't launch missle one without being turned into a glowing pile of glass by AT LEAST the US and China, very probably a number of other nations as well. What this is to North Korea is a colossal waste of money with the side effect of possibly galvanizing their people and improving morale.

Valewea
June 21st, 2006, 07:11 AM
Omfgosh! I thought that it was a joke, but now I believe everything I read in the paper. :>

This is seriously scary. Does anyone here know when they are going to test it?

Red530
June 21st, 2006, 11:52 AM
The reason why the Americans and North Korea are such enemies, is because Korea is not a part of the group of Nations that agrees, "Okay, we have missles, but we'll use them wisely and nicely." ~.~

LavenderCase
June 23rd, 2006, 08:33 PM
Omfgosh! I thought that it was a joke, but now I believe everything I read in the paper. :>

This is seriously scary. Does anyone here know when they are going to test it?

I may be wrong, but the news has mentioned something about "days". Then again, I could be wrong. I read the news from Yahoo. I'm hoping that they won't go through with the missile, and it is very likely that they won't. Even N. Korea's allies are turning against the decision.

Otter Mii-kun
June 24th, 2006, 02:10 PM
This is what happens when you have politicians preaching globalization and forcing everyone to bow down to it. (of course, those of yous who believe that 9-11-01 was caused by lack of foreign entanglements rather than from too many will probably pitch otherwise.)http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/mad.gif

Pokemon Master 4ever
June 26th, 2006, 03:26 AM
Thank heavens that I like in Alabama not so near to were those Koreans missle(s),might reach me.Why don't we just make a missle that would kill them instead,even though it would be rude of us Americans to kill other people,but how cares anyway.All because we hav Freedom and Religion,and Koreans don't.Instead of killing use why not tell there president that they have the rights to get Freedom and Religion.Problem Solved.

If we ever die we would have haunt them for the rest of there lifes,Then they'll be sorry to ever kill us all

CyrusTarber
June 26th, 2006, 11:51 AM
To be honest, the whole world has a right to be scared of North Korea.

Kim Il Jung is a nutcase! He wears platform shoes and dresses like Elvis, then forbids the country from doing the same! But with his power, it's no wonder the goverment (if any) hasn't declared him insane and removed him from power.

Of course, we're developing a missile to meet the other one and detonate it in mid-air so it never reaches us.
Still, that doesn't mean that this could return us to Cold War mentality - M.A.D. - or Mutually Assurred Destruction - which is that if one of us attacks the other, they'll counter-attack and then both contries will be destroyed in the end.

parallelzero
June 26th, 2006, 01:03 PM
o.O

North Korea=/=Vietnam.

And no, this isn't a bid for attention. It's a power grab and a none-too-subtle (though entirely impractical and everyone, including Kim Jong Il knows it) threat. North Koreas couldn't launch missle one without being turned into a glowing pile of glass by AT LEAST the US and China, very probably a number of other nations as well. What this is to North Korea is a colossal waste of money with the side effect of possibly galvanizing their people and improving morale.
To continue where Ozy left off:

North Korea = Korean War
Vietnam = Vietnam War

I'm honestly baffled as to how you can mix them up, but ah well. XD

Well technically it would be the US OR China, seeing as I doubt China would back the USA up.

I actually find it funny that so many people get worked up over a new bomb. Many countries have the technology, and have had it since the Cold War. My opinion is somewhat bias, being part of a country that doesn't have a bomb (or any other type of military strength. XD) but it's my opinion nonetheless.

And I'm laughing so hard at the person who said N. Korea was just jealous of the USA...

Kalylia
June 27th, 2006, 11:14 AM
Thank heavens that I like in Alabama not so near to were those Koreans missle(s),might reach me.Why don't we just make a missle that would kill them instead,even though it would be rude of us Americans to kill other people,but how cares anyway.All because we hav Freedom and Religion,and Koreans don't.Instead of killing use why not tell there president that they have the rights to get Freedom and Religion.Problem Solved.

If we ever die we would have haunt them for the rest of there lifes,Then they'll be sorry to ever kill us all

First of all, I have difficulty taking an opinion seriously when the opinion is stated in such poor english that it is hard to read. I won't go in to grammar corrections, as the actual content of the post makes me much more angry.

The US should NOT make a missle to just kill of North Korea. Yeah, that's going to solve all the problems. I can see it now...

"Mr. President, the North Koreans are getting closer to creating a nuclear bomb! An H-bomb! What do we do?"

"Call in our technicians! We're going to blow those Koreans out of the water!"

"OUTRAGE! BLASPHEMY!"

"An unprovoked attack on a country with the same technology as them, AND the same technology as pleanty of other countries!"

"GET THE US!"

*explodes*

Also, having the freedom *OF* religion has absolutly nothing to do with why North Korea has started the missle program. Absolutly nothing. Attempting to make that comparison would be like comparing Graham Crakers and Sweedish Fish. It just doesn't work.

That, and I believe that if North Korea or ANY country really actually wanted to nuke the US, Alabama wouldn't be safe. If we were REALLY on a nuke list somewhere, nowhere would be safe. Not even the midwest. (i.e. ND, SD, MN)

There's my two cents. *looks around* Dang... I've only got one... so here's an IOU, too!

~Ozy~
June 27th, 2006, 11:24 AM
Well technically it would be the US OR China, seeing as I doubt China would back the USA up.

China, despite its idealogical ties with North Kora would indeed back the US up if the Koreans provoked the attack. It is because of China's most-favored-nation trading status with America that the Chinese have become so economically powerful of late and they don't want to lose that economic influence if it can be avoided.

However, if the US provoked the attcack, as several have implied (though not directly stated) we might/should, the Chinese would have no qualms about reucing the United States to a small pile of rubble. Nor would much of the rest of the world. Neither the US nor North Korea can do anything, no matter how many missles are in their posession.

And to end on a humorous note: I live in the NORAD state! Motto: "We can't attack, we can't defend, but we can tell you what the hell's coming!" YAY for being a priority target! :P

Pokemon Master 4ever
July 4th, 2006, 01:19 PM
Nagoyaka Aikouka if you don't know this,im part Japanese and French,so i am having difficult time tring to speak Inglish(English),so just try ur best and understand what I am accually saing

Ryoutarou
July 4th, 2006, 01:48 PM
North Korea launches missiles (http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=2153034)

Not sure what to think, North Korea doesn't have too many strong countries backing it at last check. So, I hope no one does anything stupid, otherwise, welcome to the end of the world...or at least a good chunk of Asia and North America.

oni flygon
July 4th, 2006, 01:51 PM
The way I look at this now is that North Korea wants a little bit of attention because the US has been pouring their attention on Iran lately. I just thought of that a while ago... and since North Korea's leader is such an idiot attention seeker, I'm sure he did that just get the US' attention again...

Ichiro Miyamoto
July 4th, 2006, 06:39 PM
I honestly doubt North Korea would actually go to war with the US, with the weapons they have.

mewthree w/armor
July 4th, 2006, 07:26 PM
The ICBM blew up 42 seconds into flight, not great for them but something they can learn from. The US had there Limited ICBM intercept system ready to blow it out of the air as a test. The system prob would not have worked anyway...thank god it didn't have to be tested.

One Charmed Dude
July 5th, 2006, 10:51 AM
you know there may be some truth in this but..... a lot of it is added on by the media, they're like a idiotic circus sometimes, it may be nothing but rumors or there could be truth to it. In my opinion the news media was just looking for something to put in the paper, they probaly added a lot of fluff to the story. Also as some of you have already said, if they do fire anything the U.S. won't be to happy and they WILL no they BETTER do something. But really, logically they probaly won't launch and if they do we WILL jump into action......and all this coming from a 12 year old!!!!!!!! But seriously the media probaly added a lot of nonsense to the story!!!!

Jaguarsfan2004
July 6th, 2006, 02:50 PM
we need to go over there and stop them

~Ozy~
July 6th, 2006, 03:17 PM
*blinks*

N. Korea's ICBM/missle project is nothing but a colossal money sink. It's worthless to spend our money fighting it. Assuming we did start a war, it would be nothing but detrimental to the U.S. Not only would it waste out money and lives, but our military is spread too thin as is AND we would risk straining relations with China at a MINIMUM. That would have a horrific impact on out economy. At worst, we would start a war with China because of some misguided effort to protect our own interests. That is a conflict that would begin as a ground war. When it developed into a war of attirition (something the U.S. has NO chance of winning against China), it turns to nuclear warfare. Then, the principle of mutually-assured destruction takes over. Warfare is not the solution. What is? Simply keeping an eye on the situation. Otherwise, it's a non-issue.

Arcanine
July 6th, 2006, 03:27 PM
If North Korea can send a missile and hit somewhere in the US then I'd have to give them a hand. Not only did their test make them look stupid, sort of like...
"Hey we're going to hit this US Battleship out there! *Fires missile* *Blows up 42 seconds after launch*. Oh crap, can you please move your ship closer? Our missile won't make it all the way out there to where you're at."
(I know that's not what happened, but you get the point)
But now everyone is pissed off at them.
Why would I give them a hand? Well because for right now they could make a car fly farther then what that thing did. And the US has all sorts of stuff to take missiles down (and they track everything). So North Korea would have to go from making a missile last 42 seconds to hitting somewhere in the US. Yea, that's going to happen real soon....
And they wouldn't get anywhere by striking the US. If they happen to hit the US then within a short time North Korea would be a smoking hole in the ground (our Subs have enough nukes on them that they could take out North Korea and nothing would be left).

All I got to say is, goo luck North Korea, maybe this test stuff will help feed your people!

Red1530
July 7th, 2006, 08:51 AM
If North Korea can send a missile and hit somewhere in the US then I'd have to give them a hand. Not only did their test make them look stupid, sort of like...
"Hey we're going to hit this US Battleship out there! *Fires missile* *Blows up 42 seconds after launch*. Oh crap, can you please move your ship closer? Our missile won't make it all the way out there to where you're at."
(I know that's not what happened, but you get the point)
But now everyone is pissed off at them.
Why would I give them a hand? Well because for right now they could make a car fly farther then what that thing did. And the US has all sorts of stuff to take missiles down (and they track everything). So North Korea would have to go from making a missile last 42 seconds to hitting somewhere in the US. Yea, that's going to happen real soon....
And they wouldn't get anywhere by striking the US. If they happen to hit the US then within a short time North Korea would be a smoking hole in the ground (our Subs have enough nukes on them that they could take out North Korea and nothing would be left).

All I got to say is, goo luck North Korea, maybe this test stuff will help feed your people!That battleship would need to be near Hawaii because the missile that blew up was aimed at the waters near Hawaii. Click here (http://in.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-07-07T053653Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-258540-1.xml) for the sourse.

Jaguarsfan2004
July 7th, 2006, 02:11 PM
i was watching CNN the other night on there they had the guy who host 60 min he sayed the people over there teach their children to hate the USA that stupid.

Arcanine
July 7th, 2006, 04:08 PM
That battleship would need to be near Hawaii because the missile that blew up was aimed at the waters near Hawaii. Click here (http://in.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-07-07T053653Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-258540-1.xml) for the sourse.
Ever heard of Pearl Harbor?
Yea I heard it was pointed at Hawaii. But like I said, what good will it do for them to hit the US? "YEAH!!!! We hit Hawaii! We're da bomb. Oh wait, is that a nuke heading our way? Maybe we shouldn't have sent that missile *gets nuked*".

TwinScythe
July 7th, 2006, 08:27 PM
korea isnt dumb enough to come barging against the us, what ever they are praticing for its very assured they want to avoid conflicts with the west

Happy Dude
July 8th, 2006, 03:01 AM
Yup i always New the world would blow itself up GG Korea >.>

One Charmed Dude
July 12th, 2006, 01:32 PM
yeah I still say it's a big pile of lies. they're probably just trying to scare us so I would relax.... no big deal if you ask me so yeah....

Haseo
July 14th, 2006, 11:04 PM
I heard about that.
And it's stupid, plus is more crap we have to worry about. *moves to Japan or something*

But they won't bomb us, and we can't bomb them. The whole world is stupid, because if we were to nuke them, we'd be blown to hell, even though we were defending ourselves(Srsly, what the hell.).

But yeah, I really doubt they'll nuke us.

enyce
July 25th, 2006, 07:59 AM
I really dont care if N.Korea wants to blow us to crap. I mean its not like we cant blow them up either.

Im not scared one bit. Maybe it is because im on the east coast. Then Asian borders the west.

pokemaster7
July 26th, 2006, 05:24 PM
I'm really scared about this. Read the news article in the links below:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/16/world/main1723489.shtml - 2 pages
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13361343/ - 2 pages

So, umm, discuss, I guess...

It could also hit china,japan india,ect dosnt mean it'll hit the us