JirChamp Reincarnated (R/S/E/FR/LG)

[Mullet]

This might have some huge problems or small kinks. Now I present to you The JirChamp:

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 228 Def / 40 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Roar

Rock resist.

Machamp (M) @ Choice Band ** ...
Trait: Guts
EVs: 116 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Cross Chop
- Sleep Talk
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide

GUTS

Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Rest
- Spikes

Spiker and Spinner and can wall physical attacks.

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 160 HP / 164 Atk / 64 Def / 120 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Return

Standard Curselax lolz.

Jirachi @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 240 HP / 136 Def / 56 Spd / 72 SAtk / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Reflect
- Wish
- Thunder Wave

Support Jir.

Celebi @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 100 Def / 20 Spd / 148 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover

Cleric. This can also handle Bulky Waters and LS stuff that comes out vs it.

I think I see a minor Duggy problem so I might use CM Celebi in favor of Heal Bell. I usually use Heal Bell Celebi to abuse Rest or get rid of status conditions that I don't want to Rest off as to not waste PP. Though I might just be paranoid.

Anyway rate I guess. Definitely not my best team.

 

[Azonic]

This might have some huge problems or small kinks. Now I present to you The JirChamp:

Swampert (M) @ Life Orb ** ...
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 ATK/ 172 HP/ 80 DEF
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Waterfall
- Curse/Rest
- Avalanche

Rock resist.Physical Sweeper ONLY

Machamp (M) @ Burn Orb ** ...
Trait: Guts
EVs: 116 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Cross Chop
- Earthquake
- Facade
- Stone Edge

GUTSI hate this guy, great, fantastic attack but abyssmally low speed, will probably not even last a turn.

Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 ATK
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Waterfall
- Rapid Spin
- Avalanche
- Spikes

Spiker and Spinner and can wall physical attacks.fantastic DEF but horrible HP.

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP/ 172 ATK/ 80 SP.DEF
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Double Edge
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Stone Edge

Standard Curselax lolz.

Jirachi @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 80 ATK/172 SP. ATK/252 SPEED
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Zen Headbutt
- U-turn
- Wish
- Thunder Wave

Support Jir.

Celebi @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 100 Def / 20 Spd / 148 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover

Cleric. This can also handle Bulky Waters and LS stuff that comes out vs it.

I think I see a minor Duggy problem so I might use CM Celebi in favor of Heal Bell. I usually use Heal Bell Celebi to abuse Rest or get rid of status conditions that I don't want to Rest off as to not waste PP. Though I might just be paranoid.

Anyway rate I guess. Definitely not my best team.

I left Celebi as is. It needs work.

 

[sims796]

This is on 3rd gen, I believe.

 

[Sora_8920]

I left Celebi as is. It needs work.

This is R/S/E F/R as it says in the Title. Edit: Too late.

 

[Mullet]

Some people just can't ****ing read.

 

[MegaDitto]

You still keep that same Cloyster using Rest over Explosion. How well does it work?

Interesting Machamp set but is the speed really needed. Who does it outrun?
Some def might help.

Ron! DDD:

 

[Mullet]

Well when it's almost dead you Rest and it gives to more staying power, I just like it better than Explosion.

Umm Machamp can outspeed plenty of things when Jir T-Waves stuff.

 

[MegaDitto]

Jirachi @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 80 ATK/172 SP. ATK/252 SPEED
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Zen Headbutt
- U-turn
- Wish
- Thunder Wave

I just noticed you gave Jirachi that moveset with that nature. =/

 

[c_dog]

ah, i'm not good with 3rd gen anymore because i've been playing D/P. why don't you play 4th gen? i bet you could help me with my team if you play.

 

[Azonic]

I just noticed you gave Jirachi that moveset with that nature. =/

-_-; my bad.

I don't pay attention to everything.

 

[Mullet]

I don't pay attention to everything.

I already knew that consider you gave me D/P fixes for a 3rd Gen team.

ah, i'm not good with 3rd gen anymore because i've been playing D/P. why don't you play 4th gen? i bet you could help me with my team if you play.

I don't play D/P because it's lame and despite how small the learning curve is I don't want to learn. I might learn when Competitor comes out.

 

[ChrisG14]

ah, i'm not good with 3rd gen anymore because i've been playing D/P. why don't you play 4th gen? i bet you could help me with my team if you play.

Some people think tthe metagame sucks, but I think it's helping people understand EVs and IVs and movesets more. But that's just me. :\

Or it could just be that if you don't have a DS or a job, it cost money. $170+ bucks is alot of money.:surprised:

 

[Anti]

Or it could just be that if you don't have a DS or a job, it cost money. $170+ bucks is alot of money.:surprised:[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Thank you! I am in school and I don't have that kind of money. My friend let me create my own file on his D/P for a week and I gave it back in three days. I just don't like D/P, and some people don't have the $$$, like me. As for the team, Curselax looks fine, not sure on the EV spread but the moveset is fine. Use Restalk Machamp because guts will activate. Use Rock Slide/HP Bug and Cross Chop/Brick Break ans your attack moves. You NEED rest. I'd also take out the speed EVs because he is as slow as executtor(sp). Swampert may need a little work with the nature and EVs, but is overall pretty good. Can't help with the legends, but I'd put ALL EVs into D and HP for cloyster. It needs those EVs so it can survive fighting and rock attacks. Switch if you see starmie! Speaking of which this is one of the few teams starmie doesn't rip through. Good job overall.

 

[Mullet]

Ugh that post is a mess dude. Get Netbattle and learn to play...

I can just switch into a a Hypnosis from Gar and have the Guts boost and still get a CB Boost. CB Machamp is wayyyy better than Stalker Champ. A CB'd, Guts Cross Chop can do massive damage to anything except Ghosts. You can't really switch in anything on it. The speed EVs are so it can outspeed stuff after Jir T-Waves stuff.

The sp.def EVs on Cloyster are so it can actually survive some special attacks, and yes those 40 EVs do make a difference, and it has enough Defense EVs. Why would I leave Cloyster out against something that OHKO's it anyway?

Starmie doesn't rip though any well constructed OU team.

I know I said this is an RMT thread but can I get some good players like old vets. Possibly AB please.

 

[Anti]

"Get Netbattle and learn to play." Uh, wasn't that a little uncalled for? I'm no expert, but I know how to play...just suggestions. It was a quick rating...sorry for not being Aragornbird. I understand what you said after that and maybe I was wrong but I know how to play. It's really disheartening to hear that...really, I'm sensitive. You could at least respect my opinion...Thanks for the help on my threads...still kinda sad. Sorry if that was offtopic but I need to go to bed and think about how to play. There isn't a right or wrong way to play pokemon...and if there is my emerald is going on ebay tomorrow. I won't comment on the team since I gave you my best rate...

Now that I've gone on my sorrow rant my only comment on the team is this: How can you expect machamp to take so many hits from switching in after jirachi's TW? I know it has pretty good defenses, but it can't take two hits, assuming machamp doesn't OHKO the opposition. Am I missing something or is that a somewhat flawed strategy? And believe me, I probably am missing something. I'm off to Pokemon General, where hopefully my opinion will be respected...I'm not a victim by any means here, so don't defend or attack me...please (unless I break the rules). Uh, yeah, could you not be so grumpy when I voice my opinion next time? I forgive you and what not, but that was uncalled for. I have definately gone on far too long about something this minor, so I'll shut up now.

 

[Mullet]

If you knew how to play you could answer your own question.

PREDICTION SON!!!

Also don't get sensitive over Pokemon it's idiotic.

 

[Faceless*]

You do realize that Hidden Power is a Special attack right?

 

[Mullet]

You do realize that this is R/S/E/FR/LG right?

Why are there so many illiterate faggots here?

PokeCommunity: Stupidity at it's finest.

 

[Anti]

You do realize that this is R/S/E/FR/LG right?

Why are there so many illiterate faggots here?

PokeCommunity: Stupidity at it's finest.

Then why'd you come here? People always mess up when I post my third generation threads, but I don't call them illiterate faggots. If I don't know how to play, and the rest of us are illiterate faggots, why are you seeking our advice? Or are you too high and mighty for our advice? I don't have the authority to do anything, but I sure wish I did. You may be good at pokemon, but you're a noob at social skills. I won't be giving any more advice on any of your threads, considering my opinion means nothing. Aragorn may be one of the best, but most of us aren't noobs here, so get over yourself. Since we're "stupidity at its finest" and "illiterate faggots," why don't you just beat it? Even when I'm wrong, people who actually know a thing or two about respect are nice enough to respect my opinion. Go take your bad attitude somewhere else. Sorry for existing...I'll be doing my posting at Smogon now until you leave here, so bye everyone.

 

[Mullet]

Well because I was hoping someone good would rate not people who are illiterate and suck at Pokemon. I should have known better. This forum was at it's best when good people were still here. Just so you know I have a lot of friends on the internet and in real life. So **** off idiot. It's not my fualt I'm elitist.