Immigration

[Walrein]

I don't, or is it me too much into white nationalism?

 

[Merzbau]

More people: okay.

Why is it I should care? They're people too.

 

[latioslegends]

I enjoy having are nation very diverse so I would never oppose it.

 

[Twinx]

More people: okay.
Why is it I should care?

The other point of view would be:
more people = less job opportunities.
foreign people get payed less, that's why they are wanted so much.

Personally, I'm sort of against it because I'm sick of people complaining how they can't find jobs and I just hope in the future I don't suffer from the same problem.

 

[Gerri Shin]

I'm ok with it as long as its done properly, not illegally.
I don't mind diversity, it brings new and interesting things into our lives.

 

[Warheart]

"NO, GIT THEYUM GAWDDAMN MEXICCAN OUT MAH COUNTRY!! THIS IS 'AMERICA FOR AMERICANS!!"

I don't have a problem with immigration. I mean, the people immigrating are..people too. You can't help where you're born, and I don't believe that that a country's government should be able to shut off land to people who don't already belong to a country. If they're looking to better their lives by moving to another country, good for them! i don't mind it..I mean, it has little/no impact on my life whatsoever either way.

..And most immigrants in the US are hired illegally anyways, making much lower than minimum wage, so don't pull out that "THEY'RE TAKIN' URR JOBS!!"

 

[Wish]

Well, I can't oppose it, seeing as my parents are immigrants themselves.

As long as it is done legally, I'm fine with it. I do believe we need a diversity of people in any country. If there was all white people, it would get pretty boring. Same goes with all Asians, or Mexicans, etc. You need a diversity to make life more interesting. My parents have good paying jobs and I'm happy with all the $$$ I have now. ^^

 

[Gummy]

I'm ok with it as long as its done properly, not illegally.
I don't mind diversity, it brings new and interesting things into our lives.

I agree. Diversity is nice but when it starts screwing up my future because it was done illegally, then we have a problem.

 

[~Swish~]

Legal Immigrants I have no problem with at all.

Illegal Immigrants, I do have a problem with. Unfortunately our government is too frightened to upset other nations by kicking these people out, and are instead giving them accomodation, and are taking away jobs from people who need them, such as disabled people who are originally from the country. There are other people affected as well of course.

Some immigrants though do get on my nerves. They come in and expect/demand buildings, religious temples, free or cheap accomodation, translators, special schools, jobs on a plate etc, and make an uproar when these things don't happen. It's like when going on holiday to a foreign country. Once you enter a different country or cross a border, it is the law, your obligation and your duty to learn, accept and obey certain law's and rule's laid down by that country, whether you like them or not. Why should this be any different for someone moving to the country instead? Instead of learning to speak english, they demand translators who cost a lot of money. Now to me that is a sign of laziness. If they decided to come to the country, the least they can do is adapt to the culture. Now of course this is only a select few immigrants, but it's happening way too often now. If a country has been courteous enough to let you come and stay there, the least you should do is show the common decency and show respect by obeying the laws and adapting to the culture.

Forgot to add, I'm from England, so my views reflect how I feel about the state of my country, not America ^^ I'll leave that to Americans for obvious reasons XD

 

[Virtual Chatot]

Its not that people are against Immigration, people are mad at the fact that people are coming into this country illegally. While at the same time people are patiently waiting for their chance to become citizens. It is not fair to the people who are being patient that people aren't taking America's laws into consideration.

 

[PokeCosmo]

This isn't Socialism, let them come and help stimulate our economy. This is America, chances are given to everyone, those who are strong and perceiving will be rewarded in America.

Just imagine our country if we didn't have Albert Einstein, he was an immigrant.

 

[Legobricks]

Britain really needs to boot a lot of people out...
If you're English, you know why. =_=

I mean, immigration is fine, just once you start to let everyone in it becomes a problem.

 

[Gooberdued]

I am for it, 100%. If an "illegal" immigrant "took" your job, then they must be more qualified then you, and that is your problem, not theirs. :)

Although, some people may offer to do your job for less money, and yeah that sucks, but it that only means that your job isn't worth much in the first place.

 

[Virtual Chatot]

I am for it, 100%. If an "illegal" immigrant "took" your job, then they must be more qualified then you, and that is your problem, not theirs. :)

Although, some people may offer to do your job for less money, and yeah that sucks, but it that only means that your job isn't worth much in the first place.

The problem is that they aren't respecting the system that was set in place. People who legally immigrate have to learn the country's common language, and learn other basic things such as the national anthem.

 

[Gooberdued]

You're funny. What common language are you talking about? Sure, most people speak English, but I don't recall there ever being a law forcing people to learn English, let alone the national anthem. I don't even know the national anthem... doo do-do do do dooo...

You sound like my uncle who gets pissed off when the people start speaking Spanish around him.

"Dey terk er jerbz!"

The US Declaration of Independence states: "We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among them are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"

This applies to all men(people), not just citizens of the US, and nothing may take these rights away. Not even law.

 

[*LuckyStarIsLucky*]

most of our grandparents/great grandparents/great great granparents so on or even our parents or ourselfs immigrated. think about that. even native americans immigrated from russia a long time ago. how can you not like immigration?

 

[Virtual Chatot]

You're funny. What common language are you talking about? Sure, most people speak English, but I don't recall there ever being a law forcing people to learn English, let alone the national anthem. I don't even know the national anthem... doo do-do do do dooo...

You sound like my uncle who gets pissed off when the people start speaking Spanish around him.

"Dey terk er jerbz!"

The US Declaration of Independence states: "We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among them are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"

This applies to all men(people), not just citizens of the US, and nothing may take these rights away. Not even law.

I wasn't trying to centralize my post on just the United States/Mexican Border, I was trying to talk about all Countries with Immigration laws. There is a law set in place for people who want to become legal citizens of the United States, they have to learn English and other things like the National Anthem, like I previously said. This is not debate over human rights, this is a debate about people not respecting the laws set in place. It is also not fair to the people who wait years to become legal citizens that some people are going to come into my country illegally.

most of our grandparents/great grandparents/great great granparents so on or even our parents or ourselfs immigrated. think about that. even native americans immigrated from russia a long time ago. how can you not like immigration?

I am not against immigration, I am against illegal immigration. We live in a almost completely different time than one hundred years ago, there are laws in place now that restrict the amount of people that the United States can support with things like Food, water, and gas.

Certain areas can only provide so much for a certain amount of people, and the United States is already overpopulated as is. The last thing the US needs is millions of people flocking into the country that cannot provide for them. When there is not enough supply for the demand, people will turn to crime to get what they want, and the Government will probably go overboard with Social Programs which will kill the economy even more.

 

[Gooberdued]

I wasn't trying to centralize my post on just the United States/Mexican Border, I was trying to talk about all Countries with Immigration laws. There is a law set in place for people who want to become legal citizens of the United States, they have to learn English and other things like the National Anthem, like I previously said. This is not debate over human rights, this is a debate about people not respecting the laws set in place. It is also not fair to the people who wait years to become legal citizens that some people are going to come into my country illegally.

Yes, I looked it over and it is required to be able to understand "simple words and phrases" in English to become an American citizen.

I wasn't centralizing my post on the Mexican/American border either.

Okay, so what if your country was poor, and you did not have any money to feed your family and a country who's border is only a short distance from yours is one of the richest in the world. But, you want to do the "honorable" thing and apply for citizenship. And in this scenario there are already

people who wait years to become legal citizens

And you are applying now only to find yourself at the bottom of the list. Are you going to wait for years to become a "legal citizen" while your family is struggling to survive or are you going to "hop the fence" and create a better life for your family?

It is not a person's fault that they are born into a poor family/country. Nor is it a persons own doing to be born in a prosperous country. If a person needs help, why not help them? "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you," or so the saying goes.

This is not debate over human rights, this is a debate about people not respecting the laws set in place.

I disagree, this is a debate over whether the laws are respecting human rights. And like my first post said, all humans have the unalienable right to the pursuit of happiness, and if a law is preventing this, that is a violation of their natural rights, isn't it? People who immigrate are obviously trying to make a better life for themselves and/or family.

 

[Virtual Chatot]

Well, then maybe the United States should have more support programs going over to third world Countries. But then again, It's not completely the United States responsibility to have those sort of programs.

If the United States tries to help people's governments with Democracy, which theoretically works the best. People get angry and say that the US is trying to force its views down their throats. If this US does nothing, people will blame the the United States for not fulfilling their roll as the World's Security guard. In all instances, its a catch 22.

 

[Enperuto]

Immigration is fine... Illegal immigration? The only reason it's illegal is because most think that if everyone could come most would and our economy would be screwed (more so than now). And that might be true...

@Heatran: That's why we go isolationist and help nobody, resign as world guardian, and let China (or the EU) take over. And that's why you vote for Ron Paul.