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4th Gen The "Is my Pokémon legit or not?" Thread

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    LUGIA
    LVL CAUGHT arrived from hoenn lvl 100
    BALL pokeball
    LOCATION hoenn
    TRAINER 10ANNI
    MOVESET hydro pump
    aeroblast
    thunderbolt
    psychic
     
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    Well, based on what you describe, it sounds legitimate - do you know its EVs, IVs, or any other statistics?
    What's its ID number?
    Is it holding anything?
    Does it have any ribbons? o.o;
     

    Jumpluff

    I make the Rules, You follow.
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    Yes, That Lugia sounds Legit, That moveset is not fake because I've seen what It can learn and Caught In A Pokeball must be luck because of the HP being caught low.

    So yes, That Lugia sounds Real/Legit enough to me. :)
     

    <(^^)>

    Beginning Breeder
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    Pokemon: Lv.100 Shiny ルギア (Lugia)
    Level caught: Arrived at Lv.83
    Ball caught: PokeBall
    Location caught: Hoenn
    Trainer caught: Something in Japanese (lol)
    Moveset:

    -Ice Beam
    -Surf
    -Aeroblast
    -Earthquake
    Stats:
    380/265/277/207/317/274
    Ribbons:
    Champion Ribbon
    Effort Ribbon
    Sinnoh Champ Ribbon
    Smart Ribbon
     

    Tinhead Bruce

    the Neighbour
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    not sure if its more suited for a breeding bulletin or this one, but say i got a hacked male Espeon, and I bred it with a female Eevee that was not hacked.

    Would the new egg pokemon be considered a legit pokemon?

    Fruit of the Poisonous Tree, my friend. That is a rule in Law that states: Further evidence obtained from the use of illegal evidence may not be used.

    That means: Hacked Espeon (Illegal evidence, Poisonous tree) breeds with Eevee (variable x, let's label it), makes baby egg Eevee (Fruit). Eevee is considered hacked. Hope that helps.
     
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    Fruit of the Poisonous Tree, my friend. That is a rule in Law that states: Further evidence obtained from the use of illegal evidence may not be used.

    That means: Hacked Espeon (Illegal evidence, Poisonous tree) breeds with Eevee (variable x, let's label it), makes baby egg Eevee (Fruit). Eevee is considered hacked. Hope that helps.

    If it's hacked or not is largely up to opinion. Rules of law or philosophy or anything are largely irrelevant because...well, it's Pokemon.

    But here's a fact: It can't be identified as a hack without the breeder admitting to hacking or using hacks for one or both of the parents. The hatched Pokemon, coming from one or both hack parents, doesn't carry any information that it's hacked, from the summary that's visible in the game down to the bits of game data.
     

    Gunners

    wants Arsenal to pwm everyone!
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    is it possible to get a shiny movie shaymin
     
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    Ah :( i have one :(. No fair :(

    Did you get it from TRU itself or via trade? For better or for worse, hacking has become so precise that practically anything can be done and slip by virtually undetected. What likely happened was someone legitimately received it via Wonder Card/Mystery Gift, then loaded it into Pokesav and clicked "shiny".

    (Fake edit: Though you should post a complete summary and stats to see if there's anything else that looks hacked about it)

    (Some might say the "all shiny" Action Replay can do this too, but I tested it out myself, and it doesn't affect stuff from the Delivery Man)

    That being said, you WILL have an opportunity to get a shiny Shaymin once the key item is released. As of now, it's only announced for Pokemon Platinum Japanese version, and has no date to be released.

    https://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/hotnews/17.html
     

    SCV

    DPP Game Researcher
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    Ah :( i have one :(. No fair :(
    There have been reports of someone distributing hacked shiny shaymin wondercards at some TRU locations.

    What is the PID on your shiny?

    As someone said, someone could have simply put shiny in the box.

    But getting a legit shiny TRU Shaymin is 100% impossible.

    (Some might say the "all shiny" Action Replay can do this too, but I tested it out myself, and it doesn't affect stuff from the Delivery Man)
    That's because the MG pokemon use a different PRNG to get the PID ;)
     

    Poke_licious

    Ready to Rise
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    Pokemon: Lv.100 Shiny ルギア (Lugia)
    Level caught: Arrived at Lv.83
    Ball caught: PokeBall
    Location caught: Hoenn
    Trainer caught: Something in Japanese (lol)
    Moveset:

    -Ice Beam
    -Surf
    -Aeroblast
    -Earthquake
    Stats:
    380/265/277/207/317/274
    Ribbons:
    Champion Ribbon
    Effort Ribbon
    Sinnoh Champ Ribbon
    Smart Ribbon

    was it originally gotten in XD Gale of Darkness?? If so, it is 100% legit!
     

    SCV

    DPP Game Researcher
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    How exactly would that happen???? I mean, can someone hack into the TRU wireless?
    Not sure if I should say how. Just know that it can be done. If CME says I can explain how it can be done, I will be glad to do it. Its too easy for people nowadays. But someone has done it even when it wasn't so easy, but that time the Azure Flute was distributed along with the event that was taking place.
     

    SCV

    DPP Game Researcher
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    Ok. Hopefully CME says it's ok. I just wanna make sure I don't get hacked pokes. I wanna protect myself.
    Well the best way to protect yourself is to be informed.

    P.S. BTW, knowing how it can be done will not protect you. For all intents an purposes its the same way that TRU would be distributing. You can only tell the difference by knowing how official events are distributed. (What kind of titles they give to their WCs, etc)
     
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    Ok. Hopefully CME says it's ok. I just wanna make sure I don't get hacked pokes. I wanna protect myself.

    Which location did you get it from, as in TRU location?



    On page 4 of this thread over at Smogon someone posted that they got a (hacked) shiny Shaymin and a picture of the Wonder Card was posted.

    I also saw a post over in Serebii's forums talking about a hacked wonder card distributing an entire party of Pokemon at the NYC Tru location, but I tend to take posts from SPPF with a grain of salt.
     

    Gunners

    wants Arsenal to pwm everyone!
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    uh what? lol it is japanese and stuff. so is it from japanese plat?
     

    fishyfins

    Reality Sculptor
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    hi there, could someone perhaps say if these are hacks for me. i got em off a friend, who traded me them cos he was giving up the game. he gave me the game cartridge, then i traded across to my diamond with pal park.

    Ho-oh
    OT: 10ANNIV (exactly like that, in red writing)
    ID no: 06227
    Naughty nature
    Apr. 18, 2008 (think thats date i transfered from emerald?)
    Hoenn
    Arrived at lvl 70

    moves are Recover, Fire Blase, Sunny Day and Swift

    no ribbons

    Latias
    OT: 10ANNIV (exactly that, in blue writing)
    ID: 06227
    Docile nature
    Apr. 20, 2008
    Hoenn
    Arrived at lvl 70

    moves are Mist Ball, Psychic, Recover, Charm

    no ribbons

    Suicune

    OT: 10ANNIV (in red)
    ID: 06227
    Naive nature
    Apr. 18 2008
    Hoenn
    Arrived at lvl 70

    moves are Gust, Aurora Beam, Mist, Mirror Coat

    no ribbons

    Pikachu (this one is still on the emerald cartridge, ive not transfered it yet)

    OT: 10ANNIV (in red)
    ID: 06227
    Serious nature
    Obtained in fateful encounter at lvl 70 (im assuming the others were also like this before i transfered)

    moves: Thunderbolt, Agility, Thunder, Light Screen

    all the above pokemon are caught in regular pokeballs it would seem

    thanks for your time :)
     
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