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5th Gen The Generation Five Speculation Thread

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iLaxbe!

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    Ah, if it's Mightyena's evolution, I can't wait see Ruby's Nana (Pokémon Special) evolve. And Ruby has a relationship with Celebi too. It'd be awesome!

    But I think of Guardyena* as a hero, someone who is after Celebi to protect it from an upcoming evil (maybe Z).

    *Hehe, it's never too soon to speculate names, too.
     

    Waffle-San

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    Ah, if it's Mightyena's evolution, I can't wait see Ruby's Nana (Pokémon Special) evolve. And Ruby has a relationship with Celebi too. It'd be awesome!

    But I think of Guardyena* as a hero, someone who is after Celebi to protect it from an upcoming evil (maybe Z).

    *Hehe, it's never too soon to speculate names, too.

    I guess they never have really categorized a pokemon as "bad" just misunderstood or angried. But I'm pretty sure I read a translation of Pokemon Sunday that said Sciercyena (:P) IS Z.
     

    Spikey-Eared Pichu

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    I came up with a theory concerning Z's relationship to Celebi. Bare with me here:

    Z, like Celebi, is able to travel through time. Also, based on the codename 'Z' we can speculate that it may be the opposite Pokemon to Arceus (A to Z, Alpha to Omega). Now, perhaps Z is Arceus's opposite, but at the same time, Z is Celebi's counterpart. Where Celebi travels through time to keep peace and protect the forests, Z travels through time to cause havoc and destruction. So, in the upcoming movie, Z is chasing Celebi through time to eradicate her and have free reign to cause destruction throughout time. Where do Suicune, Raikou, and Entei fit into this? Z is the cause of the destruction of the Brass tower in Ecruteak and also is the one who caused the deathes of Suicune, Raikou, and Entei. So, the three beasts are tailing Z when they sense that there is a disturbance in the balance of nature in order to stop Z from killing Celebi.

    This is a theory based on what I've gathered from this thread, my own imagination, and the thought that Z could be the first 'evil' Pokemon.

    Tell me what you guys think =)
     

    Haza

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    Notice that everyone sees this thing as some kind of canine/dog. And relating to Riolu and Mightyena. Also, its in the same movie as the Legendary beasts/dogs.
     

    Waffle-San

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    I came up with a theory concerning Z's relationship to Celebi. Bare with me here:

    Z, like Celebi, is able to travel through time. Also, based on the codename 'Z' we can speculate that it may be the opposite Pokemon to Arceus (A to Z, Alpha to Omega). Now, perhaps Z is Arceus's opposite, but at the same time, Z is Celebi's counterpart. Where Celebi travels through time to keep peace and protect the forests, Z travels through time to cause havoc and destruction. So, in the upcoming movie, Z is chasing Celebi through time to eradicate her and have free reign to cause destruction throughout time. Where do Suicune, Raikou, and Entei fit into this? Z is the cause of the destruction of the Brass tower in Ecruteak and also is the one who caused the deathes of Suicune, Raikou, and Entei. So, the three beasts are tailing Z when they sense that there is a disturbance in the balance of nature in order to stop Z from killing Celebi.

    This is a theory based on what I've gathered from this thread, my own imagination, and the thought that Z could be the first 'evil' Pokemon.

    Tell me what you guys think =)

    I like it, besides the fact it kind of scares me. :P Though I can't see Z being both the opposite to Arceus and Celebi's opposite just because if I was an all powerful extreme "Satin" pokemon I would send my minions to do the work for me. Kind of like how Cyrus/Giovanni and others send their grunts to do the dirty work. But besides that I really like that idea, I'm going to be kind of surprised at this point if it doesn't trun out to be a bad/evil pokemon.

    Though, just thinking out loud here. Being a ninja pokemon that brings two possibilities to the table. Ninja's in truth were just hired spies and rarely performed assasinations. Yet, ninja's are famous for the stalking and killing of people/things/whatever. That begs the question, who is he working for? Of course he doesn't have to be working for anyone, he could easily have his own motives in mind. Also being a ninja I can see him being a very solitary pokemon which would disprove him havning minions to do his dirty work. There's some really cool possibilities here, man I'm getting excited!! (The hype is going to kill this thing :P)
     

    Spikey-Eared Pichu

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    Well, I came up with the part that it's Arceus's opposite and Celebi's like this:

    -Being Arceus's opposite, it'd have a multitude of powers, time-traveling being a possibility.
    -If it is able to travel through time, then, in a sense, its Celebi's opposite too since its motive are havoc and destruction, countering Celebi's.

    Again, based on my theory. Thanks for the comment, Waffle-san. And, you're on the money with one thing: hype will be the death of this Pokemon.
     

    JP

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    I came up with a theory concerning Z's relationship to Celebi. Bare with me here:

    Z, like Celebi, is able to travel through time. Also, based on the codename 'Z' we can speculate that it may be the opposite Pokemon to Arceus (A to Z, Alpha to Omega). Now, perhaps Z is Arceus's opposite, but at the same time, Z is Celebi's counterpart. Where Celebi travels through time to keep peace and protect the forests, Z travels through time to cause havoc and destruction. So, in the upcoming movie, Z is chasing Celebi through time to eradicate her and have free reign to cause destruction throughout time. Where do Suicune, Raikou, and Entei fit into this? Z is the cause of the destruction of the Brass tower in Ecruteak and also is the one who caused the deathes of Suicune, Raikou, and Entei. So, the three beasts are tailing Z when they sense that there is a disturbance in the balance of nature in order to stop Z from killing Celebi.

    This is a theory based on what I've gathered from this thread, my own imagination, and the thought that Z could be the first 'evil' Pokemon.

    Tell me what you guys think =)
    I can't find that very likely. Here's why... This Pokemon being Arceus' opposite but at the same time being a counterpart of Celebi would make this quite a "complicated" Pokemon and I can't see directors delving THAT much into a theory like this as it would complicate and confuse the younger fanbase too much. If we're to follow any aspect of your theory, the Pokemon would either have to be Arceus' counterpart OR Celebi's counterpart (more likely if you believe this Pokemon is a time traveler and wants to "cause havoc and destruction".)

    Now, the whole thing with the three dogs is interesting but again, I don't think the directors would delve that deeply into an explanation for the destruction of the Tower. I believe they'll continue to stick to a "natural" destruction rather than a Pokemon causing it.

    Don't get me wrong though, I do like you're theory and it would certainly make for a great movie plot.
     

    Spikey-Eared Pichu

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    Thanks, JP. Ironic how some of the fan-made theories, plots and such are more accepted and liked than those made by the actual producers of the games and movies.
     

    Nintengod

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    Take a pill. TYPING LIKE THIS will not get your point across and only makes it look like your flaming. This new Pokemon isn't "clearly" a werewolf-like Pokemon, it could be anything bi-pedial.

    Back on the subject of the mystery Pokemon:

    I highly disagree that it's the "Champion Z" from the upcoming movie. The silhouette doesn't strike me as an important enough Pokemon to be "Z". For all we know "Z" could just be some evil entity from another dimension, not particularly a Pokemon.

    I'm going to laugh at you when it turns out to be a warewolf. What else has legs like that, dirty fur, a huge ssj3 mane, 3 toes/fingers? Warewolf is the only thing that fits.
     

    Spikey-Eared Pichu

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    ...it's spelled werewolf, first of all. Second, if it is, whoodee-friggin-doo. I never said it isn't going to be a werewolf, I said that it isn't "clearly" or "obviously" a werewolf, as you stated.
     

    Nintengod

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    ...it's spelled werewolf, first of all. Second, if it is, whoodee-friggin-doo. I never said it isn't going to be a werewolf, I said that it isn't "clearly" or "obviously" a werewolf, as you stated.

    A mod is a troll? wow (leaves)

    Why does every site have to be ruined by jerk mods? Serribi, now here? Guess I'm off to bulbapedia.
     
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    iLaxbe!

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    A mod is a troll? wow (leaves)

    Why does every site have to be ruined by jerk mods? Serribi, now here? Guess I'm off to bulbapedia.
    Man, you're rude and clearly doesn't accept disagreements. I'm pretty sure you're not going to accept this one too. Well, since you know it all, there's nothing good you can get from us. Ba-bye.

    Notch-Eared Pichu]I came up with a theory concerning Z's relationship to Celebi. Bare with me here:

    Z, like Celebi, is able to travel through time. Also, based on the codename 'Z' we can speculate that it may be the opposite Pokemon to Arceus (A to Z, Alpha to Omega). Now, perhaps Z is Arceus's opposite, but at the same time, Z is Celebi's counterpart. Where Celebi travels through time to keep peace and protect the forests, Z travels through time to cause havoc and destruction. So, in the upcoming movie, Z is chasing Celebi through time to eradicate her and have free reign to cause destruction throughout time. Where do Suicune, Raikou, and Entei fit into this? Z is the cause of the destruction of the Brass tower in Ecruteak and also is the one who caused the deathes of Suicune, Raikou, and Entei. So, the three beasts are tailing Z when they sense that there is a disturbance in the balance of nature in order to stop Z from killing Celebi.

    This is a theory based on what I've gathered from this thread, my own imagination, and the thought that Z could be the first 'evil' Pokemon.

    Tell me what you guys think =)
    Yes, makes sense. I ask you to read mine, NEP:

    Legend says that a lightning came on Brass Tower and burned it down. Lugia fled to Whirl Islands, the beasts died and were revived by Ho-Oh, what turned them into legendaries. My theory is that this lightning came from a Zapping Electric Legendary Pokémon. Zapdos? I don't think so... What does this have to do with Celebi? I have no idea, hehe.

    Waffle-san: Ah, I don't want it to be Z anymore... :(
     

    fireyboy345

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    This thing does look evil to me.....regardless of what it is i am hopeing for an evil pokemon because that is its nature not because some humans made it evil *cough* mewtwo *cough*. imagine how fun of a catch this pokemon would be if it were evil...
     

    Spikey-Eared Pichu

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    It would add it nice little twist to the in-game. Imagine, capturing an evil Pokemon that disobeys your orders until you've raised its friendship level to a certain point. It'd be interesting to say the least.
     

    iLaxbe!

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    NEP said:
    Laxbe: That theory...is excellent!!! Lol, thanks for the comment on mine =)
    Oh my, thanks man!
    Waffle-San and NEP said:
    The hype is going to kill this thing
    Hmm maybe, but back in 2004 (6 years ago) I remember this silhouette being revealed:
    The Generation Five Speculation Thread
    Although many theories were made, and even stuff like this appeared:
    The Generation Five Speculation Thread
    people still found the true Speed Deoxys great. I don't know...

    Back on topic: We already have two time related Pokémon, Celebi (time travel) and Dialga (time control). It's a little unlikely that Z will travel through time. Maybe Celebi will be summoned by Guardyena to defeat Z. (assuming Z is evil)
     

    NocturnLeader

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    Take that Pokemon Comes Out! and Abakimasu. Shikarareru will to the Brink of Another. Is what I got out of the Corocoro page.

    Shikarareru is most likely its name. But then again probably not!?! IDK until Feb 15th.
     
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    I doubt Z is going to be evil. So far, no Pokemon is truly evil.

    Anyways, I think Z's going to be revealed in a movie trailer. I think it's about time we got another one. (I hope that's not already been confirmed!)
     

    fenyx4

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    Originally, I thought this thing was going to be a Floatzel or Weavile evo after looking for like 5 seconds, but only time will tell... A werewolf theme seems more likely now that I glance at it again...

    This Pokemon has the possibility of looking awesome or terrible... (I'm leaning more towards awesome, but its arms look slightly skinny)
    A Lucario evo might be cool, or maybe it might serve as a counterpart to Lucario? Anyway, the red fan art of it (the Sonic-character lookalike one) looks AWESOME.

    I'm also liking that Arceus-counterpart theory as well and how it could be possibly be pursuing Celebi. :)

    Lastly, Light-types for Generation V! (Please, Nintendo!)
     

    JP

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    I doubt Z is going to be evil. So far, no Pokemon is truly evil.

    Anyways, I think Z's going to be revealed in a movie trailer. I think it's about time we got another one. (I hope that's not already been confirmed!)

    Haven't heard anything about a new trailer so nope. :P They probably won't reveal a new one until after they show a full blown picture of this new Pokemon on the 21st.
     
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