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Fanfiction of the Year Discussion Committee 2010

Miz en Scène

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    Are you staying that we should have a FFotY '08,'09,'10 at all the same time, Once we hammer out these rules, we could begin on '08 and '09 immediately.
    Yes, basically we're having a Fanfiction of the Triennium(FFotT) or Fanfiction of the Year ^3(FFotY^3) or my personal Favourite Fanfiction of the Year(X3 Triennium Version)

    List updated as wellWhy do we lead nominations open to everyone, but we have one or two people who look over each nomination and decided whether it goes to round two, kind of like preliminaries.
    Yeah, that sounds just about right and less complicated than my suggestion. I'll put it as pending.

    Now, should my above paragraph be bolded as it is just replying to your suggestion, or just when a totally new suggestion is brought up?
    Should be bolded since it's an innovation to the FFotY.

    Right now, it seems to me like we have way too many categories. On the other hand, we have 10 months to get it right so no worries. XD
     

    Dagzar

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  • Hmm, about our too many categories problem (I'm not sure if it's actually a problem because we're doing awards for the past three years, right?), maybe we can do something like arrange the categories in three sections so a story may only win an award per section. I dunno, it just makes the awards seem fewer when it's arranged like that, I think. Though, this brings up a question: how many awards is a story allowed to win?

    General Awards
    FFotY
    Most Improvement
    Most Original
    Best Plot
    Best OT
    Best Romance
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    Scene Awards
    Most Heartwarming Scene
    Most Heartbreaking Scene
    Most Frightening Scene
    Most Suspenseful Scene
    Best Action Packed Scene
    Funniest Scene
    Best Cliffhanger
    Best Plot Twist
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    Character Awards
    Best Protagonist
    Best Antagonist
    Best Supporting Character
    Best Pokemon Character
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    Awards for Non-Pokemon stories
    Best Non-Pokemon Fictional
    Best Non-Human Character (for non-Pokemon stories)
     

    ChrisTom

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  • I'm sorry, but I still don't understand who does the judging...
    I still think somebody who had won awards before should do the judging. Of course if Mizan wants to, by all means. I also don't think anybody should nominate themselves (although I really want to!) because that just wouldn't be fair...

    I think it the actual judging should be judged by:

    How well the imagery is for topic.

    How well the originality is for topic.

    How interesting it is based off of topic.

    This sounds really fun though! I have some authors (not me by the way) who I'd like to nominate.
     

    Miz en Scène

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  • Just want to remind everyone that proposed stuff has been updated in the first post and I'd appreciate it if you check it out to avoid redundancy and clutter. ^_^

    Hmm, about our too many categories problem (I'm not sure if it's actually a problem because we're doing awards for the past three years, right?), maybe we can do something like arrange the categories in three sections so a story may only win an award per section. I dunno, it just makes the awards seem fewer when it's arranged like that, I think. Though, this brings up a question: how many awards is a story allowed to win?
    I suppose, it's just that with Fanfiction, I'm really going with the worst-case-scenario here since not many people actually read the fanfiction. I do think however, if self nomination was allowed, we'd have a lot of people doing it. Still, it would lead to some hard feelings if their fics were rejected for some reason. Anyway, I rearranged the categories before you posted according to three things.


    • Member related
    • Fiction Writing(Deals with main plot and climactic or dramatic scenes)
    • FictionVerse(Deals with the plot elements in the fictional universe of the fic,characters and stuff like that.
    Tell me if you want to add something. Everything is currently pending.



    I'm sorry, but I still don't understand who does the judging...
    I still think somebody who had won awards before should do the judging. Of course if Mizan wants to, by all means. I also don't think anybody should nominate themselves (although I really want to!) because that just wouldn't be fair...
    Well, at present, we're currently toying with the notion that anyone can nominate any fic that hasn't won an award and has been updated in the last Triennium(Three Years, hence the name). Then, the nominated fics would go through a screening process by certain, unselected(as of yet), members who'd then choose which ones are actual quality and not nominated even though they're written terribly.

    I think it the actual judging should be judged by:

    How well the imagery is for topic.

    How well the originality is for topic.

    How interesting it is based off of topic.

    This sounds really fun though! I have some authors (not me by the way) who I'd like to nominate.
    This is a possibility that we can use for judging.
     

    Buoysel

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  • I'm sorry, but I still don't understand who does the judging...
    I still think somebody who had won awards before should do the judging. Of course if Mizan wants to, by all means. I also don't think anybody should nominate themselves (although I really want to!) because that just wouldn't be fair...

    I think it the actual judging should be judged by:

    How well the imagery is for topic.

    How well the originality is for topic.

    How interesting it is based off of topic.

    This sounds really fun though! I have some authors (not me by the way) who I'd like to nominate.

    We haven't decided on judges yet. Right now we are trying to hammer out some rules and other misalliance guidelines. Don't worry, I'm sure that the judges will be more than qualified for their position.

    As for how many can they win, IDK, I say that should be open for all, but then again, I don't want one person sweeping up all of the awards. I vote that an Author can only win an award once: If they win Best Scene in '09 they can win any other award in '10 except Best Scene as long as the story was active both years.

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    : Holy crap I took over 10 minutes to type a post o.0
     

    bobandbill

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  • ^ But what is that user actually deserves to win it both years? =/

    Well, sppf has a limit on how many awards an author can be nominated for...

    I'm still uncertain on if we should go for the past three years or not even if that rules out a fic (minor but hey nonetheless) of mine - again we'd be talking about an awful lot of fics and tbh idk how necessary it is... probably more wondering how feasible it is, and question how many people are willing to go back through three years worth of fics to be able to nominate the right stuff. =/

    As for voting - sppf also has it on an external page, and a thread to post saying you posted so whoever is running can confrim if the votes came through or not. I might (given it'll occur at the end of the year) be able to knock something up regarding that as I know a bit of coding regarding databases, actually, if that is considered to be needed (plus it'd keep the process hidden which I think is th best method - silent ballot, and easier for whoever deals with keeping the votes rather than managing a million PMs or posts or something like that).


    As for judging... well, I'm not too sure about that. Who's to say which people are 'worthy' of being a judge or not? IMO, why not simply let anyone nominate what they want. If the worry is that bad fics will end up nominated... well, logically if they aren't good then they won't be voted for by everyone else either. If the worry is that it'll be a popularity contest - well it'll probably be one to a degree anyway, and popular fics do to at least an extent tend to be popular becuase they make for good reading. But restricting it to a few judges to approve things I feel might be run the risk of something not to the tastes of a judge or few end up losing out - for everyone likes different things after all. (If you want, make it that a reason has to be given as well with the nomination maybe for why they think it's worthy? =/)


    Anyways no rush with that - we've near a year for this. O_o Pleeeeeenty of time.
     

    Grovyle42(Griff8416)

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    What about dividing best pokemon character into 'best main pokemon character' and 'best supporting pokemon character'? There's a lot of pokemon characters.
     

    Buoysel

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  • I went over to Serebii and snooped around. I looking at their Fanfiction awards thread; I grabbed some that I thought we should use and added them to ours. Then reorganized all of them to form a nice list:
    Writer Awards
    Fan Fiction of the Year
    Best Non-Pokemon Fictional
    Best One Shot
    Best Original Trainer
    Best Romance
    Best Pokemon Point of View
    Most Improvement
    Most Original
    Best Plot


    Scene Awards
    Most Heartwarming Scene
    Most Heartbreaking Scene
    Most Frightening Scene
    Most Suspenseful Scene
    Best Action Packed Scene
    Funniest Scene
    Best Cliffhanger
    Best Plot Twist
    Most Memorable Scene


    Character Awards
    Best Main Character
    Best Supporting Character
    Best Pokemon Character
    Best Supporting Pokemon Character
    Best Human Villain
    Best Non-Human Villain
    Best Non-Human Character (for non-Pokemon stories)

    Here is an old list to compare:
    General Awards
    FFotY
    Most Improvement
    Most Original
    Best Plot
    Best OT
    Best Romance
    -
    Scene Awards
    Most Heartwarming Scene
    Most Heartbreaking Scene
    Most Frightening Scene
    Most Suspenseful Scene
    Best Action Packed Scene
    Funniest Scene
    Best Cliffhanger
    Best Plot Twist
    -
    Character Awards
    Best Protagonist
    Best Antagonist
    Best Supporting Character
    Best Pokemon Character
    -
    Awards for Non-Pokemon stories
    Best Non-Pokemon Fictional
    Best Non-Human Character (for non-Pokemon stories)

    Thoughts?
     

    Giratina ♀

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    Thoughts?

    Well, for one thing the conversation seemed to have missed my recommendations on the last page, but meh. I think, after checking them both, the lists seem very much the same... but otherwise, no objections. Except maybe we could have some more obscure awards, like for example "Best Use of Writing Techniques [metaphors, similes, onomatopoeia, all that fun stuff]" and "Best Writing Style".
     

    Miz en Scène

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  • I have a few:

    • Most Well-Portrayed Canon Character [Basically, how the writer used their canons and kept them in character, used them well, really seems to know the character, etc. I know there are lots of authors - like me - who use canons and OCs, so I felt this should be included.]
    • Best New Setting [Be it an entire region or a corner store.]
    Added to pending. Sorry for missing this earlier.

    an Author can only win an award once: If they win Best Scene in '09 they can win any other award in '10 except Best Scene as long as the story was active both years.

    ^ But what is that user actually deserves to win it both years? =/
    I'm with Bobandbill on this one. This way, we might be able to squeeze in a consecutive achievement award if that sounds fair.

    I'm still uncertain on if we should go for the past three years or not even if that rules out a fic (minor but hey nonetheless) of mine - again we'd be talking about an awful lot of fics and tbh idk how necessary it is... probably more wondering how feasible it is, and question how many people are willing to go back through three years worth of fics to be able to nominate the right stuff. =/
    Well, the three year rule was proposed so that old fics that people cared about and were just awesome as oneshots could be brought back to life. Sort off. We don't really have to go through every single fic. The nominators who remember said awesome fics will nominate them. Also, I'm wondering what everyone thinks of self nomination?

    As for voting - sppf also has it on an external page, and a thread to post saying you posted so whoever is running can confrim if the votes came through or not. I might (given it'll occur at the end of the year) be able to knock something up regarding that as I know a bit of coding regarding databases, actually, if that is considered to be needed (plus it'd keep the process hidden which I think is th best method - silent ballot, and easier for whoever deals with keeping the votes rather than managing a million PMs or posts or something like that).
    While I'm keen on a silent ballot to avoid any hard feelings, can this actually be implemented in a VB forum?


    As for judging... well, I'm not too sure about that. Who's to say which people are 'worthy' of being a judge or not? IMO, why not simply let anyone nominate what they want. If the worry is that bad fics will end up nominated... well, logically if they aren't good then they won't be voted for by everyone else either.
    Yeah, but it significantly reduces the clutter if it were to go through a screening process. Besides, once the nominations close, the voters get to read through the fics that sound interesting and have been nominated. If we just let everything pass, voters might miss out on certain fics due to the absurd amount of badfics outweighing the good ones. This is, as usual, the Worst-Case-Scenario.

    Anyways no rush with that - we've near a year for this. O_o Pleeeeeenty of time.
    You forgot to factor in Procrastination.

    What about dividing best pokemon character into 'best main pokemon character' and 'best supporting pokemon character'? There's a lot of pokemon characters.
    Please bold future suggestions. Regardless, added to pending.

    Well, for one thing the conversation seemed to have missed my recommendations on the last page, but meh. I think, after checking them both, the lists seem very much the same... but otherwise, no objections. Except maybe we could have some more obscure awards, like for example "Best Use of Writing Techniques [metaphors, similes, onomatopoeia, all that fun stuff]" and "Best Writing Style".
    Yup, yup, new main category.

    *List Updated*

    Anyway yeah, feel free to add any more suggestions. If you feel that a category has something wrong with it, or if you just don't like the category, post your comments regarding it and why you think it should be removed.
     

    Buoysel

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  • While I'm keen on a silent ballot to avoid any hard feelings, can this actually be implemented in a VB forum?

    I think it would work if we had a private poll/ BUT there will be far too many nominations for one poll. So we would have to create a new thread and poll for each catagorie and then list the nominations as options.

    The only problem with this is that there would be a lot of threads, so either Astinus will have to go sticky happy and create ~25 stickes for a couple of weeks, or we might be able to persuade one of the higher ups to create an additional sub forum just for the awards.
    You forgot to factor in Procrastination.
    lmfao

    ****, we better get started then. >.>
     

    Miz en Scène

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  • I think it would work if we had a private poll/ BUT there will be far too many nominations for one poll. So we would have to create a new thread and poll for each catagorie and then list the nominations as options.

    The only problem with this is that there would be a lot of threads, so either Astinus will have to go sticky happy and create ~25 stickes for a couple of weeks, or we might be able to persuade one of the higher ups to create an additional sub forum just for the awards.
    Or you know, we can just post votes in one thread and nominations in another.

    Clutter for the sake of server space...
     

    bobandbill

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  • Well, the three year rule was proposed so that old fics that people cared about and were just awesome as oneshots could be brought back to life. Sort off. We don't really have to go through every single fic. The nominators who remember said awesome fics will nominate them.
    Oh, I'm not totally against it, I'm just wondering how viable this would be to do this. Other issues may be - what if an old fic wins - effort would have to be made into notifying the author, etc - plausible yes but something that should be considered if fics from then are allowed.
    Also, I'm wondering what everyone thinks of self nomination?I think not, simply as what point is there to an awards' nomination stage if anyone can just nominate their own work? =/ Plus it just seems... kinda wrong to me to allow people to do that as well. Especially if we end up with only specific people being allowed to nominate - they could just throw up their own work. I'd say not - keep it to other people having to nominate other people's fics (like how sppf does it).
    While I'm keen on a silent ballot to avoid any hard feelings, can this actually be implemented in a VB forum?
    I think it can, but not that well. As said, it would either have to be in individual threads which would be...too much IMO to deal with (even if a sub-section is made which means work for admins as well, that's still 25 threads that need posting in, and I can't say it'd be an enjoyable process to go into each thread like that...and whoever counts the votes would also have to go through each thread rather than have it already supplied), or all in the one thread, in which you'd have to track all of the posts (and edits people may pull) and would mean that it isn't silent, which I feel is a pretty significant factor to consider. (I don't believe it'd be possible to create a poll in a thread here for all of the nominations either - options won't work that way).

    (Plus keeping it separate and having a thread for people to confirmed they voted while having a username also submitted as a 'check' would be easier to protect against multiple votes by the same person via alts I suppose.)
    Yeah, but it significantly reduces the clutter if it were to go through a screening process. Besides, once the nominations close, the voters get to read through the fics that sound interesting and have been nominated. If we just let everything pass, voters might miss out on certain fics due to the absurd amount of badfics outweighing the good ones. This is, as usual, the Worst-Case-Scenario.
    I suppose I'm thinking then it rather unlikely it reaches a worst-case scenario, as I don't see people seriously suggesting badfics all that often (heck, why would they in the first place?). (And if the sheer number of fics being nominated is a problem, then why the three-years of fics being allowed idea not also coming under this point as well actually - could also cause overcrowding ;P). Also going from seeing three fanfic awards on sppf where I haven't seen such a problem even get somewhat vaguely close to occurring with badfics being overwhelmingly nominated. And again - who would qualify as a 'judge' and who chooses these people? =/

    You forgot to factor in Procrastination.
    We're doooooooooomed! (But hey sppf does it in two months easy, so I believe we can do it all in a year =P.)
     

    Miz en Scène

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  • Oh, I'm not totally against it, I'm just wondering how viable this would be to do this. Other issues may be - what if an old fic wins - effort would have to be made into notifying the author, etc - plausible yes but something that should be considered if fics from then are allowed.
    Yeah, that's what the screening process seeks to avoid besides badfics. Even though I've seen plenty of good fics that deserve to be nominated, I know that their writers have left... So basically, we can screen out authors who have not been active for three months with no indication as to when they're returning. A blog entry perhaps or if they haven't posted anything regarding their absence. Still, we'll have to do this to the best of our abilities so we'll be needing volunteers.

    I think not, simply as what point is there to an awards' nomination stage if anyone can just nominate their own work? =/ Plus it just seems... kinda wrong to me to allow people to do that as well. Especially if we end up with only specific people being allowed to nominate - they could just throw up their own work. I'd say not - keep it to other people having to nominate other people's fics (like how sppf does it).
    You have a point there... I won't argue further on this point since I was just throwing a suggestion out into the open...


    I think it can, but not that well. As said, it would either have to be in individual threads which would be...too much IMO to deal with (even if a sub-section is made which means work for admins as well, that's still 25 threads that need posting in, and I can't say it'd be an enjoyable process to go into each thread like that...and whoever counts the votes would also have to go through each thread rather than have it already supplied), or all in the one thread, in which you'd have to track all of the posts (and edits people may pull) and would mean that it isn't silent, which I feel is a pretty significant factor to consider. (I don't believe it'd be possible to create a poll in a thread here for all of the nominations either - options won't work that way).
    Why not if the subcategories are handled in threads of their own and volunteers are set to take care of their own threads and tall the results in their own. Also, after the period of voting is completed, we could lock the thread and have the vote counters do their jobs to avoid silent edits. A sub-forum would be greatly appreciated like during the Get-Together...

    (Plus keeping it separate and having a thread for people to confirmed they voted while having a username also submitted as a 'check' would be easier to protect against multiple votes by the same person via alts I suppose.)
    This I suppose can qualify for its own thread. :D

    I suppose I'm thinking then it rather unlikely it reaches a worst-case scenario, as I don't see people seriously suggesting badfics all that often (heck, why would they in the first place?). (And if the sheer number of fics being nominated is a problem, then why the three-years of fics being allowed idea not also coming under this point as well actually - could also cause overcrowding ;P). Also going from seeing three fanfic awards on sppf where I haven't seen such a problem even get somewhat vaguely close to occurring with badfics being overwhelmingly nominated. And again - who would qualify as a 'judge' and who chooses these people? =/
    Well there's an oxymoron right there. :P
    Anyway, again you have a point. I'm currently referring to badfics as fics that may have potential, but are horribly written. I have no examples, but it does happen. Some people might think to nominate those fics and a few might do it on behalf of their friends
     

    bobandbill

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  • Yeah, that's what the screening process seeks to avoid besides badfics. Even though I've seen plenty of good fics that deserve to be nominated, I know that their writers have left... So basically, we can screen out authors who have not been active for three months with no indication as to when they're returning. A blog entry perhaps or if they haven't posted anything regarding their absence. Still, we'll have to do this to the best of our abilities so we'll be needing volunteers.
    I'm confused - request a blog entry from them or something? Don't believe I quite follow. =/ And if you mean make a blog to get their attention, I doubt that'd be too successful as they'd have to be on pc's blog section at a certain time to see it in the first place. If it actually is done that way (and as said I'm still not for it by a good ways atm), more than that would hav to be done. (And fact of the matter is there's every chance some won't be able to be contacted again.
    Why not if the subcategories are handled in threads of their own and volunteers are set to take care of their own threads and tall the results in their own. Also, after the period of voting is completed, we could lock the thread and have the vote counters do their jobs to avoid silent edits. A sub-forum would be greatly appreciated like during the Get-Together...
    TBH, I find it much easier to go through a single page and vote for what I want and include my username in it, and then post once in a thread saying I posted than to go through a max of (say) 25 separate threads to post a max of 25 times each time, and I'd have the same mindset as a counter for the votes in that I'd find a handy database external system which collects those votes and displays them already in the one place being easier to deal with than having the votes in 25 separate threads (and if a confirmation system was to be used for that as well it'd be annoying going through each thread someone posted + voted in to confirm that yes they have voted as well on top of that =/). Plus we'd then be looking at a darn lot of volunteers - sppf's voting system usually just requires one person (Dragonfree), this year two with Act also there, but that's it and it works well enough with such a small number - too many...writers can spoil the fic or something like that? XD

    That's just how I'm viewing it, but I don't see any real advantages from the alternative as of yet, just lots of weaknesses - just seems more work for everyone, as well as admins to make up a new subsection just for this ('course they could be up for it idk. XD) But other people add in your two cents as well (or mayb even better alternatives =P)
    This I suppose can qualify for its own thread. :D
    Well as said if an external voting page is set up, then it'd serve as the sole voting thread that'd be required for the whole thing - just one neat thread for posting if you voted or not. =)
    Well there's an oxymoron right there. :P
    Anyway, again you have a point. I'm currently referring to badfics as fics that may have potential, but are horribly written. I have no examples, but it does happen. Some people might think to nominate those fics and a few might do it on behalf of their friends
    Have no examples but it happens? Curiously where has it happened though - I'm going by the few fic awards on sppf where this I don't really recall seeing occur at all tbh even though anyone and everyone could nominate what they wanted each time there (although as mentioned before I believe one year it was required to give a reason for why you were nominating something). Anyways can't say I really see 'friendship' or the such being such a problem that badfics get nominated like that en mass (nor do I see one or two getting through that big a problem anyways), much less them winning. =/ (On a slight tangent I'd also imagine that asking people to nominate your thread out of friendship or the such would be cheating as well?)

    As for horribly written fics, wouldn't that go against the quality standard rule here and hence be closed for that anyway? =/
     

    Iqid Loopz

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  • I have a few suggestions for catagorys, but they are sorta random but

    - Best Epic Scene/Moment
    - Best "WTF" Scene/Moment
    - Best cliffhanger
    - Best Sequal
    - Best Prequal
    - Best Failing/Train-wreck Fan Fic
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  • Wow, I'm really happy I stumbled upon this. So, it seems like all the little kinks are being worked out. But...

    1. Who is going to pull all of this together and make it official?

    2. When, exactly, is this going to happen? This year? Next year? I really think official dates have to be set so this project doesn't fall through.

    3. Also, it would be really cool if a long lasting system was set up. I was really disappointed when I discovered the Pokemon Fanfic of the Month/Week archive stopped back in 05. Something like this gives readers the chance to discover really good stories they might not have otherwise read, and writers the chance to have their works more widely read.

    4. I don't think we want TOO many different categories. Maybe we should keep it at ten or fifteen. With too many categories, the award system becomes either...
    a) Redundant- same people/stories winning everything.
    b) A feel good session- Honestly, what's the point if everyone wins something? Then nobody is really recognized.

    I'm really excited for this and hope it is actually followed through.
     

    Giratina ♀

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    - Best Epic Scene/Moment
    - Best "WTF" Scene/Moment
    - Best cliffhanger
    - Best Sequal
    - Best Prequal
    - Best Failing/Train-wreck Fan Fic
    -

    "Epic" as an adjective has really grown to a very broad meaning here on the Internet. Do you mean epic in the traditional meeting, or just as "awesome"? Same goes for "WTF". Do you mean the original meaning - "What's going on here?" - or the most outlandish scene?

    Sequel and Prequel... I don't know. Sequel might work, but not many people write prequels for their stories.

    We're already discussing the Best Trainwreck Fic (or would that be Most Notable Trainwreck Fic?)
     

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  • 2. When, exactly, is this going to happen? This year? Next year? I really think official dates have to be set so this project doesn't fall through.
    I believe this is going to be happening in December of this year and I totally agree with you that we need a date. It may have just been my imagination but I vaguely recall talk of having the rewards last all of December, so maybe December 1st would be a nice date to start?

    4. I don't think we want TOO many different categories. Maybe we should keep it at ten or fifteen. With too many categories, the award system becomes either...
    a) Redundant- same people/stories winning everything.
    b) A feel good session- Honestly, what's the point if everyone wins something? Then nobody is really recognized.
    Currently, we have twenty-five categories and to lesson the number (do we even have twenty-five active fics?), I'm wondering if we should get rid of the Scene Awards. Awarding a scene has always been a bit iffy to me as a scene could be sad to one person and clichéd and boring to another. If we don't get rid of them, we could at least cut them down a tad. Like, get rid of Best Action Packed Scene (I dunno, Pokemon fics seem to rely on battles, but I'm just trying to see if I can cut this down) and Most Frightening Scene (any of the latter entries could go under Most Suspenseful Scene).

    Also, in the character awards category, combine Best Supporting Character and Best Pokemon Supporting Character into simply Best Supporting Character. The same can go for Best Human Villain and Best Non-Human Villain. I'm doing this because really, characters are characters, no matter if they're human or not. What matters is their personality, not their appearance.

    Right now, the categories look like this from my altering:

    Writer Awards
    Fan Fiction of the Year
    Best Non-Pokemon Fictional
    Best One Shot
    Best Original Trainer
    Best Romance
    Best Pokemon Point of View
    Most Improvement
    Most Original
    Best Plot

    Scene Awards
    Most Heartwarming Scene
    Most Heartbreaking Scene
    Most Suspenseful Scene
    Funniest Scene
    Best Cliffhanger
    Best Plot Twist
    Most Memorable Scene

    Character Awards
    Best Main Character
    Best Supporting Character
    Best Pokemon Character
    Best Villain
    Best Non-Human Character (for non-Pokemon stories)
    That's twenty-one awards, still a bit too much. Anyways, what do you guys think?

    We're already discussing the Best Trainwreck Fic (or would that be Most Notable Trainwreck Fic?)
    I don't really think that would be a good idea. It seems kind of mean and bad fics are usually only that way because no one's reviewing and helping them. It just doesn't sit right to me and it'd be like making fun of them.
     

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  • 1. Who is going to pull all of this together and make it official?
    Good question. XD Well Mizan has already made this thread, and I imagine Astinus is likely to be involved - you know, being the mod of this section and all. ;P I also can make that external page methinks if we end up going with that, and probably could help out if needed (keen enough to help out at any rate, but I suppose it'll be a while until we get to choosing/deciding people, if more are actually needed - as said, sppf gets by with one/two people).
    3. Also, it would be really cool if a long lasting system was set up. I was really disappointed when I discovered the Pokemon Fanfic of the Month/Week archive stopped back in 05. Something like this gives readers the chance to discover really good stories they might not have otherwise read, and writers the chance to have their works more widely read.
    I think the aim is that, providing this is successful, for it to be yearly after that.
    4. I don't think we want TOO many different categories. Maybe we should keep it at ten or fifteen. With too many categories, the award system becomes either...
    a) Redundant- same people/stories winning everything.
    b) A feel good session- Honestly, what's the point if everyone wins something? Then nobody is really recognized.
    Well, sppf gets by both the a) and b) points by having a 5-nomination per author, three-per-fic nomination limit - maybe that or something similar could be considered? Ensures variety in the end methinks.

    I have a few suggestions for catagorys, but they are sorta random but

    - Best Epic Scene/Moment
    Already have 'Most Suspenseful scene' which covers this I feel.
    Best "WTF" Scene/Moment
    That can mean some bad fic with huge plotholes could win though, and idk about that. =/ Plus seems a bit too... 'cliche'.
    - Best cliffhanger
    Already suggested.
    - Best Sequal
    - Best Prequal
    Alfeel this is too niche, really - may be just me, but don't think that's needed (plus there's really not all that many sequels here, let alone prequels).
    Best Failing/Train-wreck Fan Fic
    I think this thought sums up mine:
    I don't really think that would be a good idea. It seems kind of mean and bad fics are usually only that way because no one's reviewing and helping them. It just doesn't sit right to me and it'd be like making fun of them.
    Yeah, I don't see much point - an award to say 'you suck the most out of everyone! =D' seems to be rather the opposite of what this section is aimed to be like and not very nice either, least to say. =/ Just can't say I think this should be an option at all.
     
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