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Should letter grades be eliminated from education?

Eliminate letter grades?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 29.2%
  • No

    Votes: 17 70.8%

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FreakyLocz14

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    I've heard people who advocate against the use of letter grades. Students who wish to attend prestigious colleges and graduate schools are usually already taking advanced courses that are more difficult and/or require more work than normal courses. To add to this burden, the pressure of earning a high grade means that students will be less likely to pursue extracurricular interests, enroll in elective courses where they can work their expressive talents, or participate in athletics.

    What are your thoughts on this?
     
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    No, no no no no no no!

    It would be, in my opinion, stupid to eradicate them since it is an obvious system that separates peoples abilities from each other after they have finished their education.

    And that is a lie about not wanting to pursue anything else. I am in my final and toughest year of University and I still have time to do other things. It is about being able to juggle the your lessons and your life, which isn't that hard once you have done it for a while.
     

    FreakyLocz14

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    No, no no no no no no!

    It would be, in my opinion, stupid to eradicate them since it is an obvious system that separates peoples abilities from each other after they have finished their education.

    And that is a lie about not wanting to pursue anything else. I am in my final and toughest year of University and I still have time to do other things. It is about being able to juggle the your lessons and your life, which isn't that hard once you have done it for a while.

    Every student is different. There are always going to be those who excel no matter how tough school gets. Unfortunately, most students don't fit into that category.

    And letter grades do not really reflect a student's abilities all the time. Depending on teaching styles, they could show that students are good test takers or good at memorizing and regurgitating content rather than being skilled in that area of study. I've met some intelligent people who you would never know were intelligent by looking at their school transcripts.

    I think that education in America doesn't treat students like individuals. I also haven't even begun to factor in students with learning disabilities yet; but they would go to show that there's more to learning than getting the most question right on an exam.
     
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    I understand what you are saying, but what other method could be used?

    The education system isn't perfect, hell, nothing is perfect. But it is the best that there is currently. It is just the way it is now-a-days and I highly doubt it would change, but this is a hypothetical discussion.
     

    TRIFORCE89

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    So, get rid of the goal of having good grades so that you can pursue sports? Why is it always better to be a football player than a scientist? I don't get it.
     
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    I agree fully, courses should be about how much you take away from them, not how high you can score on a test. I think that
    effort is worth it, but if you have to study until your head combusts to get a C or a low B, then you're obviously not cut out for what you initially chose to pursue.
    Honors and AP courses should extend your understanding of a subject, not to teach you a harder version of what's being taught in the college prep classes.
     

    Spinor

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    Yes, eliminate letter grades...

    The percentage system is so much better and accurate <3 I love seeing a 100% on my tests, but I don't think I'd be as excited to see the name of a programming language on it...

    But if this means grades in general, then no. Because I need something to show that I have bragging rights... not right now of course, especially with the courses I don't like... but yeah, I need something to brag about later in high school.
     

    Sydian

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    Switching to percentages for us that aren't good with numbers is icky to me. It's easier to say "oh I got an A" than "lol hay i gotta 95.2%" or something. And you know, even if they did scrap letters, I'd still think of them anyway. If I see 90 and above, I think A. If I see 80 something, I think B and on down the road. We've been using them for so long that I think it'd be too weird of a transition.

    Also, I don't know why, but this thread just reminded me that I need to turn in my band uniform tomorrow because I have an I in band. OOOPS. lol
     

    Kura

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    Ohh... switching to percentages is okay.

    I thought it was having grades or just go free range as the option XD

    That's what it sounds like to me.

    Switching to percentage is fine.. but if a student can't place at a certain amount, or if they fail, that means they're not ready for whatever needs a higher grade. It's simple.
     

    Spinor

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    Switching to percentages for us that aren't good with numbers is icky to me. It's easier to say "oh I got an A" than "lol hay i gotta 95.2%" or something. And you know, even if they did scrap letters, I'd still think of them anyway. If I see 90 and above, I think A. If I see 80 something, I think B and on down the road. We've been using them for so long that I think it'd be too weird of a transition.

    The opposite is true in my school and probably my whole area o__o it is of preference to say "I got a 95", letter grades are pretty damn rare and are always converted and shown in percentage anyways. In fact, I don't even know how the letter system works when averaging >__> yeah
     

    Scytheteen

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    I've actually never gotten a letter grade, and I love getting a nice accurate number on my test. If I got an A, it only gives me a range of what I got, I like seeing 92 or 100 or 52.
     

    Scytheteen

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    To be honest, I got both, so I usually associate percentages with the letter grades themselves. It's never been purely letter grade, and it's never been purely percentages. They were both mixed together. Like on a quiz, it would say both 92% A, or a 85% B, or something like that. xD

    I never even knew they did letter grades anywhere anymore! I thought it was just in tv shows and movies and what not D:

    But I think that a mix between the two is nice, I just like getting a nice percise number rather than a range.
     

    Cherrim

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    I'm pretty sure OP meant ditching grades altogether and go to a pass/fail system, where it's one or the other. And I really like that idea for some courses. Maybe for courses outside the breadth of one's major, if they didn't have to worry about getting a good mark to keep up their GPA, they'd be more likely to branch out and take something that interests them. You know, out of their comfort zone. But if they have to worry about getting over a certain percent or letter (I have no idea how letter grades work--I've only had them for one year of my schooling ever), they'll be less likely to take something brand new.

    So for a non-specialist math course that maybe an art student might take, yeah, ditching the specific grades could be helpful. They'd take the course instead of falling back on something "safe", get some interesting academic experience, and if they pass, they get the credit and if not, it's not much different from failing a "properly graded" course anyway.

    But for something you need to take and know well? I don't think it works out. If you take an entry course and only get a 54%, technically that's a pass here but it's not a high enough mark to take the next course up most of the time because it doesn't show that you know the material. If you could move on with a mark like that, chances are you'd flounder even more in the next course because you likely don't have the required knowledge from the course before. So being able to filter out those who know what they're doing from those who don't can be really helpful and I don't think that should be given up.
     

    Her

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    Well, I prefer letter grades to the straight pass/fail system for the reason that the pass/fail system is so ambiguous as to whether you did good or bad. Well, obviously you did bad if you failed, but the letter grades clear the grey area. I just think that students have more of a motivation to improve if they know exactly where they are in education, instead of almost a robotic system.
    (amalgamation of all the previous posts)
     

    FreakyLocz14

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    I'm pretty sure OP meant ditching grades altogether and go to a pass/fail system, where it's one or the other. And I really like that idea for some courses. Maybe for courses outside the breadth of one's major, if they didn't have to worry about getting a good mark to keep up their GPA, they'd be more likely to branch out and take something that interests them. You know, out of their comfort zone. But if they have to worry about getting over a certain percent or letter (I have no idea how letter grades work--I've only had them for one year of my schooling ever), they'll be less likely to take something brand new.

    So for a non-specialist math course that maybe an art student might take, yeah, ditching the specific grades could be helpful. They'd take the course instead of falling back on something "safe", get some interesting academic experience, and if they pass, they get the credit and if not, it's not much different from failing a "properly graded" course anyway.

    But for something you need to take and know well? I don't think it works out. If you take an entry course and only get a 54%, technically that's a pass here but it's not a high enough mark to take the next course up most of the time because it doesn't show that you know the material. If you could move on with a mark like that, chances are you'd flounder even more in the next course because you likely don't have the required knowledge from the course before. So being able to filter out those who know what they're doing from those who don't can be really helpful and I don't think that should be given up.

    That's what I'm proposing for the college-level. I also think that letters grades shouldn't be used before high school.
     

    otaku-dono

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    Letter grades are a nice generalisation, and much easier to discuss than percentages.
    To add to this burden, the pressure of earning a high grade
    Oh so all of a sudden people don't care when you're graded with a percentage? This is utter bollocks, really.
     

    FreakyLocz14

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    Letter grades are a nice generalisation, and much easier to discuss than percentages.

    Oh so all of a sudden people don't care when you're graded with a percentage? This is utter bollocks, really.

    I'm advocating for a Pass/No Pass system, not percentages.
     

    Kitrigar

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    I go with the 'Do what's told to be done and you'll pass.'
    It's just unfair for some people who don't get certain subjects to earn such a low grade.
     
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